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[jamskinner]

 If they are on next gen it could drastically change the amount of time for development and 
what the game is like.

[Sparse]

Must be current generation.

[Mello]

I guess they will be doing current, but when the next console releases they could just tweak the game to the consoles controls.

[Sparse]

Ubisoft were complaining about the cost of developing games for next gen consoles so I'd be surprised if EA have more than a couple of their flagship titles on them to start with. Maybe FIFA/Madden and a Battlefield would be more likely than DA3???

[SafetyShattered]

I'm like 95% sure it'll be on current consoles.

[Bullets McDeath]

Yeah, there really is no way to know, we are in the twilight of the current generation for sure but there is no really solid info about what is around the corner in the console wars, except for the WiiU. Given that it's been in development for a while already (one hopes), I would put my money on it being for the current generation. However, if the consoles get pushed up and/or DA3 gets pushed back, I could see them tweaking the graphics up a notch and fiddling with the UI and "porting" what they have to the new consoles.

Or it could be like what happened with The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, where it was releases on the old "current" gen Gamecube and the brand new "next gen" Wii, with the Wii version having sexier graphics (and not much else).

And it is times like these I'm glad I play on PC

Modifié par outlaworacle, 03 septembre 2012 - 10:43 .

[Dragoonlordz]

Well the expected release is late 2013 early 2014 when gather all rumours together roughly for next gen. So given they are still discussing where want to go with DA3 I think timeline of release might be shortly after next gen hits. It is a tough one because the benefit of having a launch day title or early release on new system would mean high pick up rate for your title due to low quantity of titles available for the systems, the balancing between that and current gen having so many systems already out there and owned could make larger sales on current gen systems.

Problem with this also is current gen has a lot of competition for title sales due to vast amount of developers creating titles for it so that could impact sales in bad way. Its a real toughie which would be the better option for a developer to make. On the plus side of current gen is your not excluding people who own the previous two games if release on same platform as them.

Maybe decide it on flip of a coin. To be honest if I was to make a guess I think they will go with current gen but it's a very grey area to decide which would be better move to make. When next gen comes out they can always start on it for the following title aka DA4 or whatever is why I think that current gen more likely. Personally I also hope that Bioware invested in some dev kits for Oculus Rift so they can also consider supporting that system with VR titles for DA and ME too.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 03 septembre 2012 - 10:56 .

[Bullets McDeath]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

....the benefit of having a launch day title or early release on new system would mean high pick up rate for your title due to low quantity of titles available for the systems, the balancing between that and current gen having so many systems already out there and owned could make larger sales on current gen systems.

Problem with this also is current gen has a lot of competition for title sales...

This is the major factor. Not to go all bitter and cynical (but I am, so it comes out that way), given EA's slavish devotion to anything that might shift so much as 1 extra unit, there's a good chance that DA3 might be a next-gen launch title. Only time will tell.

Modifié par outlaworacle, 03 septembre 2012 - 11:37 .

[Bullets McDeath]

Man, I have the opposite problem. I had a "friend" abscond with my 360 Elite some time back... I've tempted to buy a new one, but knowing there's a brand new one that's likely backwards compatible in the works... the waiting is torture. I was literally on the last mission of XIII when it was taken. My pain is eternal, as is my retribution.

Modifié par outlaworacle, 03 septembre 2012 - 11:43 .

[Sparse]

outlaworacle wrote...
This is the major factor. Not to go all bitter and cynical (but I am, so it comes out that way), given EA's slavish devotion to anything that might shift so much as 1 extra unit, there's a good chance that DA3 might be a next-gen launch title.

But is DA3 blockbuster enough to go to the extra expense of making it for next-gen??

I would have thought they'd go for their guaranteed money-makers.

[Dragoonlordz]

Sparse wrote...

outlaworacle wrote...
This is the major factor. Not to go all bitter and cynical (but I am, so it comes out that way), given EA's slavish devotion to anything that might shift so much as 1 extra unit, there's a good chance that DA3 might be a next-gen launch title.

But is DA3 blockbuster enough to go to the extra expense of making it for next-gen??

I would have thought they'd go for their guaranteed money-makers.

There is an element of lets say worst case scenario in that DA3 is not very good. Which is not a view I hold and I have really high hopes for it and hope it is great but in this scenario of bad game it would sell more on a new system due to lack of titles for people to choose from leading them to try things that would not normally buy than would on an old system which has vast competition for sales. It has the downside though of what if the new system does not have many initial sales which could turn that positive increase into a negative decrease in sales. I think however it will more likely be released current gen but it could go the other way dependant on development time and whichever side of the coin falls on risk wise to take.

Too many what if's for my liking, I wouldn't like to make this choice but if I had to I would risk current gen provided the game comes out prior to next gen or very, very early into next gen release at the latest.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 04 septembre 2012 - 01:04 .

[danielkx]

I don't see why it wouldn't be both. The "next-gen" consoles are supposed to made with common PC components. Not only that, the components rumored are barely even mid range PC parts today. If BioWare decides to release the game within the next 18 months there is no reason why they wouldn't develop the game for current consoles, next gen consoles and PC.

They would already have the higher resolution and higher quality graphics because of the PC, so they wouldn't have to do much to make sure the game looks good on next gen consoles since those consoles are not going to be as powerful as mid/high end PCs of today. And since they would obviously want to make sure they sell as many copies as they can, they would develop it for current gen consoles because of how many people already have the consoles.

[Fortlowe]

I would've said this gen, had there been an announcement sometime this summer. But given that there wasn't one and the next console cycle for Microsoft and Sony start in winter of next year I very much doubt that it will be released in the current cycle.

[AppealToReason]

I hope the next gen consoles have a hard drive transfer feature. I don't want to lose all my saved games

[Dragoonlordz]

AppealToReason wrote...

I hope the next gen consoles have a hard drive transfer feature. I don't want to lose all my saved games

Rumour I heard was the new Xbox is going mostly online streaming and downloads, online/cloud and such. So less focus on HDD and some saying no Disc Drive aka CDROM/DVD/Bluray etc and replaced with SD or MD type cards for games outside of the online streaming kind. But that might have been bad rumour. Worst case scenario from rumours is cloud storage no HDD, no disc drive and an online game streaming only service.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 04 septembre 2012 - 10:40 .

[MichaelStuart]

current, might be on Wii U later

[Heimdall]

I'm leaning toward current.

[Brockololly]

Sparse wrote...
But is DA3 blockbuster enough to go to the extra expense of making it for next-gen??

I would have thought they'd go for their guaranteed money-makers.

I'm guessing DA3 will be on both current and nextgen consoles.

If its targeted for late 2013 alongside the new consoles, then I bet you'll see a lot of established franchises have cross generational games. So basically for the "nextgen" and PC versions, they'll likely have them with DX11, nice visuals and some other features that they can easily sell.

The risk with only making it for current consoles is that if new consoles are unveiled at E3 next year and come out Fall 2013, then anything not nextgen will be overshadowed. But if they limit DA3 to nextgen as a launch title or near launch, you risk having lackluster sales- not only because you'll be working with a substantially smaller install base but because its a sequel to DA2 which was an extremely divisive game. Even if you have a solid install base for nextgen consoles, you have to imagine some people will be apprehensive to buy into a DA3 after DA2.

[hexaligned]

Hopefully Next Gen, just because I want them to spend a good couple years developing the game, that and current consoles are just about unplayably outdated (for me).

[Das Tentakel]

Brockololly wrote...

Sparse wrote...
But is DA3 blockbuster enough to go to the extra expense of making it for next-gen??

I would have thought they'd go for their guaranteed money-makers.

I'm guessing DA3 will be on both current and nextgen consoles.

If its targeted for late 2013 alongside the new consoles, then I bet you'll see a lot of established franchises have cross generational games. So basically for the "nextgen" and PC versions, they'll likely have them with DX11, nice visuals and some other features that they can easily sell.

The risk with only making it for current consoles is that if new consoles are unveiled at E3 next year and come out Fall 2013, then anything not nextgen will be overshadowed. But if they limit DA3 to nextgen as a launch title or near launch, you risk having lackluster sales- not only because you'll be working with a substantially smaller install base but because its a sequel to DA2 which was an extremely divisive game. Even if you have a solid install base for nextgen consoles, you have to imagine some people will be apprehensive to buy into a DA3 after DA2.

However, developing DA3 for perhaps as many as 6 systems - Xbox 360, PS3, Xbox 720, PS4, Wii-U, PC - will increase development costs considerably. And that for a game in a franchise that is no longer a guaranteed sell.
Perhaps they´ll just go for a PC version to show off pretty pictures, indicating that the next gen versions will be comparable. Where that leaves the current gen versions I have no idea, but potential buyers can´t be too overjoyed at buying versions that will be inferior not just to the version for the mythically unaffordable ('10,000 dollars and you have to upgrade every 5 nanoseconds') and undependable (' it always crashes')  PC, but also to those for the new ' awesome'  consoles.

Modifié par Das Tentakel, 04 septembre 2012 - 07:23 .

[BubbleDncr]

I've wondered this myself. I'm really hoping Microsoft and Sony release their next gen consoles for Holiday 2013. But they've also said in the past that they like to announce their game 6 months out. So, since DA3 hasn't been announced yet, a spring 2013 release is pretty much guaranteed to not happen.

So unless they announce it at the VGAs for a summer release (which is weird to me, since they usually do Spring and Fall), then it seems like it would come out the same time as the next gen consoles. Which would be bad for it, IMO.

So, I think DA3 will either have to come out in the summer, or come out for next gen as well. Which means they would definitely need a way to let you recreate your save files.

[Fortlowe]

^Indeed. Save files definitely figure largely into the next game I imagine. Perhaps cloud saves will do the trick.

A VGA announcement puts DA3's release sometime next year. Probably, late Spring 2013. However, no announcement, as I think will be the case, almost assures a 2014 release well into the next console cycle.