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[SavagelyEpic]

Dunabar wrote...

SavagelyEpic wrote...

I still haven't played the ending, and I don't think I will. ME3, while it definitely had it's good portions, wasn't all it could've been. If I hadn't played the first two games and become so deeply drawn into it, I'd probably think ME3 was great. But having had that experience and knowing what ME3 had the potential to become... It's a tad disappointing. But as far as I'm concerned, Shepard's story will never end - I'm not touching that ending. I still can't imagine why they didn't bring Karpynshyn back for ME3 - It's a sorrier game because of that, and especially because of Hudson. Too many inconsistencies and dropped lore points from the second and first games because Hudson ended up wrecking what Karpynshyn created.

For me, ME1>ME2>ME3 always. It's unfortunate that this is the end of Shepard's story and all the characters we've come to know and love.

PS. Do you have a wallpaper sized version of that picture? Preferably in 1920x1200?

The part of your mind that brought interest to you about the Mass Effect series may very well be what brings you back as well. It is understandable why you feel the way you do, but tomorrow may bring something that changes everything for you. But only you know what will do it to change your mind, but no matter if you feel its time to pick things back up or just continue on without looking back is entirely up to you. Your reason is as valid and respectable as my reason to stay is, no better, no worse. Equal to every end, I wish you the best no matter where you feel is best for you.

Noted and respected.


/salute

PS: No sadly I do not, I googled that image.

I'll probably - No, I'm a sucker. I know I'll come back if they make another Mass Effect game, but I still can't help feeling it's going to be ... well, not quite Mass Effect anymore. Not without Karpynshyn's vision, not without Shepard and the entire cast we've known so well. As someone else said, they pretty much could've named Mass Effect after Shepard and it would be an accurate title. To me, it's always been Shepard.

[Jadebaby]

OP's arm must be totally out of blood by now..

[Dunabar]

SavagelyEpic wrote...
I'll probably - No, I'm a sucker. I know I'll come back if they make another Mass Effect game, but I still can't help feeling it's going to be ... well, not quite Mass Effect anymore. Not without Karpynshyn's vision, not without Shepard and the entire cast we've known so well. As someone else said, they pretty much could've named Mass Effect after Shepard and it would be an accurate title. To me, it's always been Shepard.

Na you're not a sucker. The feeling is understandable to lose a character that has been so important to the story or have the story so focused around. But where one story ends, another begins that may not have the same greatness as the one prior to it. But even a hero as epic as Shepard must have his limits. This is part of the reason that while I am sad that Thane dies, that I am also happy how he dies.

Thane dies to his illness more than he really dies to Kai Leng, but Thane gave his life so another could live. While it is very sad for us, the player, to look at his death as another one of our beloved squadmates getting ready to be added to the Normandy shrine. It actually provides us with that drive to ensure Lt. Kai Leng is killed (I am fairly certain a lot of us if not a majority of us were happy to sink our Omni-Blades into him). Was Thanes death needed? Maybe..maybe not, it is hard to say for sure but what we could take from it was that Cerberus needed to pay for both the Citadel attack and Thane's death.

Is the Mass Effect setting weaker because Thane died? Maybe to some, but to me it gave strength and new zeal to ensure justice was brought to Cerberus. While Thane and Shepard are two different characters, they are both important in their own way, both having part in the Mass effect story, and those spots can truly never be filled again. The greatest of heroes sadly must die at some point for new heroes to rise up. Thane says it best...

"There comes a time one must rest from war and conflict"

If Shepard does die in the end of it all..I can say that (s)he truly earned a good rest after it all. Most likely would be up drinking and laughing it up with Thane. Its hard to say though, their spots can never be filled again. But as I said before; where one story ends, another begins.

You're not a sucker, you're a fan of Mass effect.

Edit note: Felt a need to put a Thane pic.

Modifié par Dunabar, 04 septembre 2012 - 10:28 .

[Dunabar]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

OP's arm must be totally out of blood by now..

Na, I am like Garrus. I can lose a lot of blood but still find a way to keep on getting up. Though I can only wish I was truly as awesome as him. There can only be one Garrus Vakarian though.

[Nevara]

I'm with you, OP. I despise the endings. Ranted and raged, stopped playing and moved on. I played the EC, didn't change much; left questions. Lather, rinse, repeat. Then Leviathan came out and I still hate the endings, but not because they changed nothing. It just isn't my cup o' tea.

But I enjoyed Leviathan for what it was: a module story. Nothing wrong with that. Still hate endings, wish they were more fulfilling. Not exactly holding my breath that they'll do something spectacular (probably because I'm disillusioned by everything and I don't think they'll give me something satisfactory). But I'm watching and waiting.

[Dunabar]

Nevara wrote...

I'm with you, OP. I despise the endings. Ranted and raged, stopped playing and moved on. I played the EC, didn't change much; left questions. Lather, rinse, repeat. Then Leviathan came out and I still hate the endings, but not because they changed nothing. It just isn't my cup o' tea.

But I enjoyed Leviathan for what it was: a module story. Nothing wrong with that. Still hate endings, wish they were more fulfilling. Not exactly holding my breath that they'll do something spectacular (probably because I'm disillusioned by everything and I don't think they'll give me something satisfactory). But I'm watching and waiting.

But it doesn't make you any less of a fan in the end. You saw something you didn't like and while some may say "Suck it up and move on", its hard to move on. Its just as hard to walk away as it is to stay to watch it all. Your reason for stepping away is respectable even if people don't agree with it, you're still a Mass Effect fan inside no matter if on the outside your time is with other games. The ending is different for everyone though, I may not side with you in the belief of the ending, but I do not feel you're a lesser by any means. A difference of opinion is all

Tomorrow may bring you back to the game for longer periods of time, tomorrow may just be the same as today though. But only you know where you will stand in the coming days. Wherever it is, you will be wished the best by at least one person.

Noted and respected.


/salute

Modifié par Dunabar, 04 septembre 2012 - 10:46 .

[Nevara]

Dunabar wrote...

Nevara wrote...

I'm with you, OP. I despise the endings. Ranted and raged, stopped playing and moved on. I played the EC, didn't change much; left questions. Lather, rinse, repeat. Then Leviathan came out and I still hate the endings, but not because they changed nothing. It just isn't my cup o' tea.

But I enjoyed Leviathan for what it was: a module story. Nothing wrong with that. Still hate endings, wish they were more fulfilling. Not exactly holding my breath that they'll do something spectacular (probably because I'm disillusioned by everything and I don't think they'll give me something satisfactory). But I'm watching and waiting.

But it doesn't make you any less of a fan in the end. You saw something you didn't like and while some may say "Suck it up and move on", its hard to move on. Its just as hard to walk away as it is to stay to watch it all. Your reason for stepping away is respectable even if people don't agree with it, you're still a Mass Effect fan inside no matter if on the outside your time is with other games. The ending is different for everyone though, I may not side with you in the belief of the ending, but I do not feel you're a lesser by any means. A difference of opinion is all

Tomorrow may bring you back to the game for longer periods of time, tomorrow may just be the same as today though. But only you know where you will stand in the coming days. Wherever it is, you will be wished the best by at least one person.

Noted and respected.


/salute

Oh no, no, that's not what I meant.  After playing ME3 to the end I stopped and walked away.  Then EC came out, played it, and stopped and walked away.  It didn't motivate me to do any new playthroughs, but Leviathan came out and now I'm in the middle of a full runthrough (I'm in the middle of ME2).  I did miss the series and you're right how I feel/felt about the ending doesn't change my love for what got me to this point.  Strange how a DLC would do that for me more than what I thought the EC would do.  

[Dunabar]

Nevara wrote...

Dunabar wrote...

Nevara wrote...

I'm with you, OP. I despise the endings. Ranted and raged, stopped playing and moved on. I played the EC, didn't change much; left questions. Lather, rinse, repeat. Then Leviathan came out and I still hate the endings, but not because they changed nothing. It just isn't my cup o' tea.

But I enjoyed Leviathan for what it was: a module story. Nothing wrong with that. Still hate endings, wish they were more fulfilling. Not exactly holding my breath that they'll do something spectacular (probably because I'm disillusioned by everything and I don't think they'll give me something satisfactory). But I'm watching and waiting.

But it doesn't make you any less of a fan in the end. You saw something you didn't like and while some may say "Suck it up and move on", its hard to move on. Its just as hard to walk away as it is to stay to watch it all. Your reason for stepping away is respectable even if people don't agree with it, you're still a Mass Effect fan inside no matter if on the outside your time is with other games. The ending is different for everyone though, I may not side with you in the belief of the ending, but I do not feel you're a lesser by any means. A difference of opinion is all

Tomorrow may bring you back to the game for longer periods of time, tomorrow may just be the same as today though. But only you know where you will stand in the coming days. Wherever it is, you will be wished the best by at least one person.

Noted and respected.


/salute

Oh no, no, that's not what I meant.  After playing ME3 to the end I stopped and walked away.  Then EC came out, played it, and stopped and walked away.  It didn't motivate me to do any new playthroughs, but Leviathan came out and now I'm in the middle of a full runthrough (I'm in the middle of ME2).  I did miss the series and you're right how I feel/felt about the ending doesn't change my love for what got me to this point.  Strange how a DLC would do that for me more than what I thought the EC would do.  

Ah gotcha, sorry late night misunderstanding. I promise its only because I am Human


But na, even something like Leviathan gives rise to a feeling that something may change, what though? We will never know till Bioware reveals something to us. Never know, maybe after one or two more DLC's we will see...

"Mission success is high" or however they word it. Too hot right now to get it spot on lol.

[Dunabar]

pirate1802 wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

Everything but Synthesis...
Synthesis and its supporters can go **** themselves...
No respect at all...

Sorry for offtopic stuff OP, but I find such individual very funny.

Lol just saw this for the first time. Troubles me none because I know there are people that support and don't support the Synthesis option.

Thank you for the apology though.

Noted and respected.


/salute

[Baa Baa]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Dunabar wrote...

What is Mass Effect to us?

*reluctant snip*

I choose to wait and see what Bioware brings for us. I welcome the company of those who wish to join me in the wait and wish the best for those who choose to depart.

Wait to see what the dawn brings or depart from it all? The choice is yours.

*snip*

-Sign, Dunabar. Proud Member of the Mass Effect Community.

You are the Harvey Dent of the BSN community. Since it sounds to me you will be sticking around with us. I must warn you...

Watch out for the Joker.

Saans Shadow wrote...

This has made me smile today. I know how you feel. I enjoyed Leviathan, I enjoy MP. As far as I'm concerned ME is a great series with a great ending now that the EC clears enough for me to be happy. Any additions to the lore is welcome to me and if by some chance after all is said and done with and one of the theories turns out to be true I will welcome it even as a pro-ender and pro-synther.

You are.. *The Batman!* For when the two sides begin to quarrel and bicker with each other, the community can all turn to this one knight, this one.. beacon of hope and learn that sometimes, just sometimes.. People can actually just get along. Despite their differences in taste or opinion.

And because of this, we will hunt you, not because you're the hero the BSN deserves, and not because you're our hero at all. Because you're our guardian, our watchful protector. Our Dark Knight.

I think everything on BSN now must be translated to fit within a Dark Knight quote . Imagine that kind of BSN.
"Shepard, the BSN.... it's.... perfect...."

[Dunabar]

Baa Baa wrote...
I think everything on BSN now must be translated to fit within a Dark Knight quote . Imagine that kind of BSN.
"Shepard, the BSN.... it's.... perfect...."

Only one Dark Knight and thats Garrus Vakarian. Though it would be funny if Garrus did get the chance to teach The Illusive man a lesson.

"Alright Illusive man, we're going to do this the hard way because you don't get a choice in the matter"

Though I am not a Batman follower by any means... but to each their own.

[Jadebaby]

Baa Baa wrote...
I think everything on BSN now must be translated to fit within a Dark Knight quote . Imagine that kind of BSN.
"Shepard, the BSN.... it's.... perfect...."

Yes! And everytime someone asks you if you liked the Mass Effect 3 ending you can just say "you wanna know how I got these scars?"

[Dunabar]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Baa Baa wrote...
I think everything on BSN now must be translated to fit within a Dark Knight quote . Imagine that kind of BSN.
"Shepard, the BSN.... it's.... perfect...."

Yes! And everytime someone asks you if you liked the Mass Effect 3 ending you can just say "you wanna know how I got these scars?"

"Doing what I came to do. Chew bubble gum and kill Reapers...sadly for them, I am all out of bubble gum"

Modifié par Dunabar, 06 septembre 2012 - 06:15 .

[Lieber]

I'll hold the line Dunabar. I shall stand strong with all of you that agreed to stay. I enjoyed the Extended Cut, and I welcome DLC with open arms.

[Dunabar]

Lieber wrote...

I'll hold the line Dunabar. I shall stand strong with all of you that agreed to stay. I enjoyed the Extended Cut, and I welcome DLC with open arms.

Happy to have you around. We will hold the line as one united force and no enemy will overrun our line. Bioware has things up their sleeves, not sure what but we will find out as things go.

noted and respected.

[Zooter]

I will stick around and see whats next. I just don't want to let go of Shepard and his crew.

Modifié par Zooter, 11 octobre 2012 - 08:42 .

[Restrider]

I have hope, maybe more than is reasonable. On the other hand, things like ME: Deception or what I've heard from DA2 and SWTOR discourage me.
But I will just stick to what an intelligent man once said in a fiction.

[Ithurael]

Restrider wrote...

I have hope, maybe more than is reasonable. On the other hand, things like ME: Deception or what I've heard from DA2 and SWTOR discourage me.
But I will just stick to what an intelligent man once said in a fiction.

Still one of the best openers in a video game. ever.

[Jere85]

I have hope, more then i know.

Supporting this thread OP.

[ld1449]

OP- YOU'VE CHANGED NOTHING.

THIS THREAD HAS GATHERED THE ATTENTION OF THOSE INFINITELY YOUR GREATER.

THAT WHICH YOU KNOW AS BSN IS YOURSALVATION THROUGH HATRED.

YOU HAVE FAILED, WE WILL FIND ANOTHER WAY!

YOU CANNOT RESIST. YOU WILL SUCUMB AND ASCEND TO PLANES OF BITTERNESS.

RELEASING CONTROL:alien:

Modifié par ld1449, 11 octobre 2012 - 03:45 .

[Dunabar]

Zooter wrote...

I will stick around and see whats next. I just don't want to let go of Shepard and his crew.

None of us truly do want to let go of Shepard and the crew of Shepard. While Shepard will always be the name we will be familiar with, even Shepard needs to die one day. Many would prefer that day to be alongside the lover of Shepard or maybe a blaze of glory taking down the Reapers without sacrifcing  another race in the process or whatever other ideal many prefer to have.

Shepard may die a mortal human, but he will become a immortal name for the years to follow for each of us.

Noted and respected.
/salute

[Dunabar]

Restrider wrote...

I have hope, maybe more than is reasonable. On the other hand, things like ME: Deception or what I've heard from DA2 and SWTOR discourage me.
But I will just stick to what an intelligent man once said in a fiction.

As my title says. 'Darkest before the dawn' and its very understanding how someone can be discouraged. Time will reveal more to us and what we find will be judged by our views of that discovery. Some will love it and some will hate it, but all the same we can only wait to see. Having hope though, even if its a fools hope. Is still in my opinion better to have than feeling only loss. Those that feel loss should be encouraged to stand up to see what tomorrow brings alongside us, but only they can determin if thats what they truly want..

Noted and respected.
/salute

[Dunabar]

Jere85 wrote...

I have hope, more then i know.

Supporting this thread OP.

Thank you 
I am sure many more of us have more hope than we really sit back and reflect upon. The possible truth of Shepard's death is not something many of us were prepared for. Many felt a sense of betrayal and many felt a sense of closure with the possible death of our beloved Shepard, but the hopes that tomorrow will bring new light in the darkness is still deeply seeded in all of us.

In the end of it all. Those of us with hope even if its a small spark of hope, will hold the line, and see what tomorrow brings.

Noted and respected.
/salute

[Dunabar]

ld1449 wrote...

OP- YOU'VE CHANGED NOTHING.

THIS THREAD HAS GATHERED THE ATTENTION OF THOSE INFINITELY YOUR GREATER.

THAT WHICH YOU KNOW AS BSN IS YOURSALVATION THROUGH HATRED.

YOU HAVE FAILED, WE WILL FIND ANOTHER WAY!

YOU CANNOT RESIST. YOU WILL SUCUMB AND ASCEND TO PLANES OF BITTERNESS.

RELEASING CONTROL:alien:

Change is only what the mind perceives it to be. Have I changed minds? Maybe I have. Have I done little more than just make another post? Maybe I have. But from the words of some who have posted, I can say that I have at least reasured some minds that I will hold the line in hopes for the new dawn alongside them, as a proud member of the Mass Effect community.

I stand alongside my equals and if the greater powers deem us no more than lesser creatures, so be it. But the lessers still have hope and even if we will ultimately reach the bitter planes. We will do so with our weapons armed and ready to rise up against those powers that seek to take us there.

A small step forward is still a step forward.

Noted and respected
/salute


PS: That was a fun little read lol