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[Psycho Pisces]

They found out you are female, and that you have a dirty mind (at times), it puts us guys at ease and we can joke about things we don't normally say in acceptable society.

Give as good as you get, and don't be afraid to tell us when we cross a line or say something too often. You've encroached on the sacred land of "One of the guys" and have been accepted.

At least its not the stereotypical "OoooOooh You're a girl? " creeper conversations.

I'm on xbox360, gamertag is my forum names as a single word. I don't talk often, but I'm always willing to listen to others and joke around from time to time.

[Invader Nemesis]

GT: LadyNemesis21

Eastern time

Edit

I know how you feel OP sometimes my guy friends get annoying and sometimes I feel like they don't take me seriously even though I've proven my worth several times over. Honestly I'm a little tired of the constant guy talk.

Modifié par LadyNemsis21, 03 septembre 2012 - 06:19 .

[spaceling]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

spaceling wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...
"To generalize [sic] is just an ignorant move on anybody's part."
Note the use of the word 'anybody'.
So... Derp. Yes.

No. Nice try trying to troll. 

Someone having a better grasp of the English language than you do =/= trolling.
Learn to laugh and move on sonny jim. Don't feel bad about it.

Oh I get it. You're an elitist with the English language. Good job. You win something I'm sure. By trolling I mean having nothing better to do than get a rise out of someone. I hope you can comprehend it this time. Anyway, I'm not going to argue semantics with you because you feel the need. This conversation is not as important to me as it apparently is to you. So bye. 

[Ashen One]

Nissun wrote...

Guys need to stop being surprised by female players, and female players need to stop feeling special for being female players.

In other news: stop making such a big deal out of it.

/thread

[BongMong]

spaceling wrote...

Rubios wrote...

BongMong wrote...
On the PC, as has been noted, there seems to be little in-game intolerance voiced. Reports from the consoles seem to show the reverse. This is also indicated by the common use of fascist terminology by some console users when referring to the apparently more tolerant PC community (PC Master Race etc.).
Now, I am aware that most console users will be decent folk who know how to act around others. I am also aware that one of the main selling points of consoles is that they are easy to use compared to PCs and easier to buy (less up front initial cost). We all know that intolerance is born out of ignorance and it seems likely to me that consoles will attract more of their fair share of ignorant gamers due to their ease of use. Just look at the console FGC (fighting game community) for a great example. Again, I am not talking about the bulk of console gamers.
It may be that the best solution is to move to the PC or to more complex games to avoid the ignorance tide. Still, this attempt to educate should be applauded though it may be a big job to undertake.
Good luck OP. You're brave, but you'll still need it with this endeavor.

inb4 rustling

Haha. Is this where I sign up for the PC elitist course? For all the talk of how console users are ignorant, that was a pretty ignorant analysis. 
I for one own a PC, Xbox, PS3, wii. And many other systems. To generalize is just an ignorant move on anybody's part. 

Now hold on, I think I am being a bit misunderstood here. I am not over generalising. I am expressly NOT saying that console gamers are ignorant. In fact, due to the sheer numbers of console gamers, it is very obvious that there are far more tolerant gamers on consoles than there are on the PC. Educated gamers love consoles, and some love PCs too. The only reason I don't own a console is because of the ongoing costs (expensive games and on-line subscription fees). I find them as fun as the next guy/gal, though if the community has as much intolerant in-game commentary as there appears to be it would also put me off some.

That said, there are also a number of gamers who are intolerant and unfair intolerance is very commonly, in fact I would go so far as to say almost always, born of ignorance. These are fairly obvious truths. Another apparent truth is that there is a lot of aggressive intolerance displayed during console gaming sessions whereas there is little to none seen in PC gaming sessions. I have recently seen this when experimenting with a fighting game with a largely console user base. The sexism in particular was staggering. I was actually taken by surprise as I had not expected it to be so breath-takingly different to the PC based communities I am used to. The OP seems to be finding the same in ME3.

In my experience the ignorant tend to avoid the more complex and challenging routes unless they are actively seeking to improve themselves (unlikely in the aggressively intolerant, I feel). Is it not, then, reasonable to imagine that ignorant gamers would gravitate towards the most accessable gaming platforms?

That is all I am saying. I am very much NOT saying that PC gamers are in general somehow more 'elite' than console gamers. I can see no evidence to even consider such a position.

corporal doody wrote...

WOW! now this......im insulted by.

pompous and arrogant.


if it was meant to be funny or a troll post....u sir suck the big one

Now, this is an interesting philosophical comment. Not fully detailed, but I get it. I clearly state in my original post that 'I am aware that most console users will be decent folk who know how to act around others', so you are clearly pointing out that I believe myself better than those I specify in my post. The intolerant gamers who are abusing others in-game. By definition, that could be called 'pompous and arrogant', I agree.

Essentially you are pointing out that I could be accused of being intolerant of intolerance. Well, I do believe that working from a position of understanding is better than from a position of ignorance. I believe that few people are actually incapable of a level of understanding that would render intolerance illogical. Since they are capable, then I am not better than them at an essential level, however I do believe that those who are unwilling to abandon their ignorance and instead seek to make life hard for others due to their intolerance and the feeling of superiority it gives them are both foolish and dangerous. I am better than them... but I realise the logical paradox. It is the classical ethical singularity.

Tolerance and intolerance are not easy bedfellows. One has to take an ethical position, belief, or political stance that fits with one's own soul. Then one should actively join the fight, or risk a society that would be difficult to bear. Personally I have studied and qualified in ethics at honours degree level and now fight to defend others as a senior trade unionist and personal case officer. I feel I have taken an ethical stand I can live with and am hoping only to encourage others to do the same. I hope you all find this acceptable, though I am sadly aware that many in the world will not. I do not let that realisation hold me back from challenging intolerance where I see it however, as I am not a coward. Again, I hope you will all understand that it is not possible for me to do otherwise.

Modifié par BongMong, 03 septembre 2012 - 07:00 .

[N7 Lisbeth]

Rifneno wrote...

Dokteur Kill wrote...

Isisannabella wrote...

Its just nice to meet up and have a devent match without guys talking about their Di*ks every five mins.

Switch to PC 

Makes me glad I'm on PC.  N7 is a lil over 1000 even without promoting much, and I've been in exactly one game where someone was being anything other than a mature adult on the mic.

Part of the reason for the PC "maturity" levels is because the mic/voice detection system on the PC doesn't work for 80% of the players. No mics does tend to inhibit inapprorpriate conversations.

Ask yourself -- how often have you been in completely silent PC multiplayer games?

That said, it's a pity this grouping is for non-PC users.

Modifié par N7 Lisbeth, 03 septembre 2012 - 07:02 .

[kaileena_sands]

Nevermind, error. Why is there no delete button?

Modifié par kaileena_sands, 03 septembre 2012 - 07:08 .

[Sgt SuperWae]

Wow. Talk about a thread completely failing its purpose.

<=== gt

A lot of my friends are abandoning ME3. Send a request if you like OP. (not a girl)

[d_nought]

Sorry OP, threads about groups of gamers who just happen to be female on BSN always go nowhere fast. Although even as a university student (i.e. adult daycare) I don't hear guys talk about their junk all the time. On PC, no one talks anyway, but that's more because of push-to-talk being default as well as Origin being crappy and not detecting my mic half the time.

[heybigmoney]

Sure add me I go by: KONGDONG6inchSOFT

[Chaoswind]

N7 Lisbeth wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Dokteur Kill wrote...

Isisannabella wrote...

Its just nice to meet up and have a devent match without guys talking about their Di*ks every five mins.

Switch to PC 

Makes me glad I'm on PC.  N7 is a lil over 1000 even without promoting much, and I've been in exactly one game where someone was being anything other than a mature adult on the mic.

Part of the reason for the PC "maturity" levels is because the mic/voice detection system on the PC doesn't work for 80% of the players. No mics does tend to inhibit inapprorpriate conversations.

Ask yourself -- how often have you been in completely silent PC multiplayer games?

That said, it's a pity this grouping is for non-PC users.

you would be suprised...

Voice chat isn't a huge thing on PC, but a mic is like what? 4 cents? so most PC players have a mic, but most refuse to use it.

just say:

PC user Chaoswind: Holy **** did you guys see that?

One of your team mates will answer while the rest remove their hand away of tab

Chaoswind: I just shot a phantom on the crotch while she was pole dancing

2 will say: Nice
While the other one will say: but... we are fighting reapers.

EDIT:
Ignorant non english speaker with no knowledge of what the word Crotch means:bandit:

Modifié par Chaoswind, 03 septembre 2012 - 10:02 .

[GreatBlueHeron]

Misogyny = hatred and/or dislike of women. You don't think you're being hateful---I say you are.

[Chaoswind]

who? me???

[GreatBlueHeron]

If you didn't do or say anything sexist, Chasowind, the you doesn't include you.

I'm tired of sexist jokes. I can't take anymore. It wasn't funny the first time I heard, it's not funny now and it will never be funny to me, ever. Think about why people think the "joke" is funny--that there's 'no women on the internet'. Maybe then you'll get why it makes me raging mad.

[GreatBlueHeron]

Gay men are cool. I'm a gay woman.

[Gravisanimi]

The average male on Xbox has an IQ equal to that of a Jersey Shore cast member (got to make those jokes now.)

EDIT: the average BSN-er is closer to that of TED talks audiences

Modifié par Gravisanimi, 03 septembre 2012 - 10:18 .

[CNevarezN]

Hm, I have female friends on XBL and they seem pretty cool in my book. Then again, I'm a type f person wh gets along with all. It's in my nature. Don't be thinking that all men talk about their c***s online just because 1 chick is playing with em... 3 guys, 1 lady... 3 dudes talking about c***s just because they're playing with some chick 5,000 miles away? Sounds pretty ****in gay and lonely in my book.

[N7 Lisbeth]

Chaoswind wrote...


you would be suprised...

Voice chat isn't a huge thing on PC, but a mic is like what? 4 cents? so most PC players have a mic, but most refuse to use it.

I have a 7.1 headset (sic) that cost a few hundred dollars and a 7.1 soundcard. The problem with the PC version of Mass Effect is that there's no way to control the sound detection and the mic settings simply don't work. If you don't use the +30dB manual adjustment out of game, nobody will ever hear you. Hint: If you own a Creative Labs card, chances are you don't get that +30dB adjustment. It's simply not there for the best sound cards, and its absence affects *nothing* except Mass Effect voicechat. I typically have to reduce my outbound volume in ventrilo or mumble, because it's too loud.

There are lots of topics on this point already though. That poor horse.

So, no, the silence you hear in PC multiplayer has nothing to do with people unwilling to use their mics.

Modifié par N7 Lisbeth, 03 septembre 2012 - 10:32 .

[CNevarezN]

Flog61 wrote...

CNevarezN wrote...

Hm, I have female friends on XBL and they seem pretty cool in my book. Then again, I'm a type f person wh gets along with all. It's in my nature. Don't be thinking that all men talk about their c***s online just because 1 chick is playing with em... 3 guys, 1 lady... 3 dudes talking about c***s just because they're playing with some chick 5,000 miles away? Sounds pretty ****in gay and lonely in my book.

It does, rather

Ah, I just got that. Man..... Ackward... O.o