Finally played through the EC endings.
The most ridiculous thing I have ever seen in any video game, movie, or other form of entertainment was the Normandy coming to evac your squad right in the middle of the beam rush. That really happened? "Hey don't mind us Harbinger we're just evacing these 2 minorly wounded people while everyone else gets lasered to death around us. Screw Anderson's no retreat orders, I don't want you to die."
Meanwhile Harbinger just stares at you... "Take your time Sheppy, I'll wait."
That's the best they could do? Rather than say "Yeah your squad being alive at the end was a bug, our bad." They constructed this absurd scene. Your squad should have died. End-o-story. It would have been "emotional story telling" not incomprehensibly stupid track covering.
It trumps the catalyst, all things Deus ex, and Gears of War 2's directionless story. It trumps every other moment that has ever made me guffaw out of sheer unbelievability.
As if I needed even more evidence against it, Indoctrination Theory cannot exist in a world where this is acceptable writing.
It's equivalent to a 6 year old saying "I shot you while I was dying" when playing imaginary gunfight. Or better yet, yelling "time out" and "truce."
The Normandy evac is the worst thing about ME3.
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Posté 03 septembre 2012 - 06:57
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Indeed that was one of the worst scenes I've ever seen. Almost makes me think the original ending wasn't so bad...
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Posté 03 septembre 2012 - 07:00
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What I love is that, since they only "clarified" and did not change the original ending, we were suppose to infer the the evac scene had happened in the original 20 sec run to the beam.
I'm sorry I was confused Bioware. How could I have not realized that?
I'm sorry I was confused Bioware. How could I have not realized that?
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Posté 03 septembre 2012 - 07:00
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Good Guy Harbinger right there...
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Posté 03 septembre 2012 - 07:00
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It's the second worst thing about me3.
The firs tis the disappointing lack of dinosaurs.
The firs tis the disappointing lack of dinosaurs.
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Posté 03 septembre 2012 - 07:01
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It's sad because it's the stupidest scene of the EC but also my fav because of being able to say goodbye to Tali.
Couldn't they have just did that before the beam rush, when the Mako crashed? It would've made more sense, or telling them to retreat after so long?
Calling in the Normandy was just silly.
Couldn't they have just did that before the beam rush, when the Mako crashed? It would've made more sense, or telling them to retreat after so long?
Calling in the Normandy was just silly.
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Posté 03 septembre 2012 - 07:01
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I thought about this at some point while playing through the EC as well- it's odd that the Normandy wouldn't try to save more than just your two squadmates (e.g., other soldiers that were injured/around). You would think, "Oh they didn't have time to pick up a bunch of people" but I would argue that they really didn't have enough time to pick up the two that they did.
Not a huge concern overall with the ending (there are certainly worst instances of completely botched plot), but it adds to the "WTH?" tone that was present throughout the ending.
Not a huge concern overall with the ending (there are certainly worst instances of completely botched plot), but it adds to the "WTH?" tone that was present throughout the ending.
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Posté 03 septembre 2012 - 07:01
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You're a very lucky person if that's the worst thing you've ever seen.
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Posté 03 septembre 2012 - 07:01
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This.wwinters99 wrote...
What I love is that, since they only "clarified" and did not change the original ending, we were suppose to infer the the evac scene had happened in the original 20 sec run to the beam.
I'm sorry I was confused Bioware. How could I have not realized that?
So true.
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Posté 03 septembre 2012 - 07:01
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Harbinger did not shoot the normandy because of the reaper IFF. Scanning exposes you to other reapers though, which is why they chase you in space.
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Posté 03 septembre 2012 - 07:02
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nothing to do with I T but i do think they want shepard alive or the body
if they blow the normandy up the ship would crash or parts of the ship and explosion would kill shepard
if the ending is true the goal of the reapers is still to get the best people from each cycle to work for them
shepard would be of grate use to the reapers who since mass effect 1 have wanted shepard
saren did say that shepard impressed them and that they should join the reapers
so i think that is why he did not shoot down the ship
if they blow the normandy up the ship would crash or parts of the ship and explosion would kill shepard
if the ending is true the goal of the reapers is still to get the best people from each cycle to work for them
shepard would be of grate use to the reapers who since mass effect 1 have wanted shepard
saren did say that shepard impressed them and that they should join the reapers
so i think that is why he did not shoot down the ship
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Posté 03 septembre 2012 - 07:02
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I totally agree O/P. The original was bad enough, but the EC raised the bar on that level. This is how Bioware chose to spend the resources allocated to the EC.
Still makes me giggle.
Still makes me giggle.
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Posté 03 septembre 2012 - 07:02
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wwinters99 wrote...
What I love is that, since they only "clarified" and did not change the original ending, we were suppose to infer the the evac scene had happened in the original 20 sec run to the beam.
I'm sorry I was confused Bioware. How could I have not realized that?
^^ This.
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Posté 03 septembre 2012 - 07:03
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Then why couldn't the Normandy just take on the entire reaper fleet by herself? Just give her a **** load of ammunition, take out one a day, report back to base, reload, then go back out.Mike 9987 wrote...
Harbinger did not shoot the normandy because of the reaper IFF. Scanning exposes you to other reapers though, which is why they chase you in space.
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Posté 03 septembre 2012 - 07:03
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dude really... in case you don't read threads before actually making one. this post is so underrated... 
Normandy has Reaper IFF, that's why Harbringer will not attack. Harbringer also don't attack evac ships like Normandy. i'm pretty damn sure Harbringer picked up Shepard's transmissions to Normandy for evac, Harbringer knew he can't attack Normandy unless Shepard was ordering Normandy to fire on Harbringer. this is one of classic plots that's been around since early 20th century. "don't fire unless being fired upon."
read the threads first
Normandy has Reaper IFF, that's why Harbringer will not attack. Harbringer also don't attack evac ships like Normandy. i'm pretty damn sure Harbringer picked up Shepard's transmissions to Normandy for evac, Harbringer knew he can't attack Normandy unless Shepard was ordering Normandy to fire on Harbringer. this is one of classic plots that's been around since early 20th century. "don't fire unless being fired upon."
read the threads first
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Posté 03 septembre 2012 - 07:03
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Mike 9987 wrote...
Harbinger did not shoot the normandy because of the reaper IFF. Scanning exposes you to other reapers though, which is why they chase you in space.
Yes but when they chase you, you are no longer actively scanning.
So how do they see you?
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Posté 03 septembre 2012 - 07:04
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David7204 wrote...
You're a very lucky person if that's the worst thing you've ever seen.
He didn't say it was the worst thing he'd ever seen, he said it was the worst thing in me3
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Posté 03 septembre 2012 - 07:04
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Another funny thing is that before we fight the destroyer Coates asks if we can use air support. Anderson comments that the beam interferes with any air support and thus the team would have to take the destroyer out from the ground.
So...Incoming normandy lolz
It was the Reaper IFF guyz. I swear
So...Incoming normandy lolz
It was the Reaper IFF guyz. I swear
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Posté 03 septembre 2012 - 07:06
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Reaper IFF my ass. You're 20 feet away. Harbingers just sittin there "Hey what's shepard doing loading everyone into this cool flying thingy?"
And even with that weak-ass excuse, it's contradictory to everything we just talked about with Anderson. No retreat, no turning back, one way trip. Shepard wouldn't just say "Holy **** this thing's actually dangerous, Joker come pick us up we're getting out of here!"
Not to mention it breaks the flow of that scene in half.
And even with that weak-ass excuse, it's contradictory to everything we just talked about with Anderson. No retreat, no turning back, one way trip. Shepard wouldn't just say "Holy **** this thing's actually dangerous, Joker come pick us up we're getting out of here!"
Not to mention it breaks the flow of that scene in half.
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Posté 03 septembre 2012 - 07:06
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superblaze1 wrote...
dude really... in case you don't read threads before actually making one. this post is so underrated...
Normandy has Reaper IFF, that's why Harbringer will not attack. Harbringer also don't attack evac ships like Normandy. i'm pretty damn sure Harbringer picked up Shepard's transmissions to Normandy for evac, Harbringer knew he can't attack Normandy unless Shepard was ordering Normandy to fire on Harbringer. this is one of classic plots that's been around since early 20th century. "don't fire unless being fired upon."
read the threads first
So that destroyer attacking all the evac ships on earth in the opening was being fired upon by the evac shuttles?
wut?
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Posté 03 septembre 2012 - 07:07
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Flog61 wrote...
It's the second worst thing about me3.
The firs tis the disappointing lack of dinosaurs.
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Posté 03 septembre 2012 - 07:08
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If that's the worst thing about ME3 then it must be a fairly good game.
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Posté 03 septembre 2012 - 07:09
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halbert986 wrote...
Reaper IFF my ass. You're 20 feet away. Harbingers just sittin there "Hey what's shepard doing loading everyone into this cool flying thingy?"
And even with that weak-ass excuse, it's contradictory to everything we just talked about with Anderson. No retreat, no turning back, one way trip. Shepard wouldn't just say "Holy **** this thing's actually dangerous, Joker come pick us up we're getting out of here!"
Not to mention it breaks the flow of that scene in half.
hahaha that would have been hilarious. halfway down the run to the beam, shepard could have been like "Whoa guys, ABORT MISSION!! Turns out that this reaper IS in fact ridiculously large and actively hostile, so NORMANDY GET OVER HERE STAT!!"
