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[Cassandra Saturn]

Ithurael wrote...

superblaze1 wrote...

dude really... in case you don't read threads before actually making one. this post is so underrated...

Normandy has Reaper IFF, that's why Harbringer will not attack. Harbringer also don't attack evac ships like Normandy. i'm pretty damn sure Harbringer picked up Shepard's transmissions to Normandy for evac, Harbringer knew he can't attack Normandy unless Shepard was ordering Normandy to fire on Harbringer. this is one of classic plots that's been around since early 20th century. "don't fire unless being fired upon."

read the threads first

So that destroyer attacking all the evac ships on earth in the opening was being fired upon by the evac shuttles?

wut?

that's diffrent Reaper destroyer, but Harbringer is First Reaper, and it will not attack evac ships. basically i'm saying that all Reapers are diffrent but they are automated, Harbringer is not. he's just like Sovereign.

[ShepnTali]

Flog61 wrote...

David7204 wrote...

You're a very lucky person if that's the worst thing you've ever seen.

He didn't say it was the worst thing he'd ever seen, he said it was the worst thing in me3

He said it's the most ridiculous thing he's ever seen in any form of entertainment.

That's an incredible statement.

[Darth Malice113]

Ithurael wrote...

superblaze1 wrote...

dude really... in case you don't read threads before actually making one. this post is so underrated...

Normandy has Reaper IFF, that's why Harbringer will not attack. Harbringer also don't attack evac ships like Normandy. i'm pretty damn sure Harbringer picked up Shepard's transmissions to Normandy for evac, Harbringer knew he can't attack Normandy unless Shepard was ordering Normandy to fire on Harbringer. this is one of classic plots that's been around since early 20th century. "don't fire unless being fired upon."

read the threads first

So that destroyer attacking all the evac ships on earth in the opening was being fired upon by the evac shuttles?

wut?

Lulz.


Didn't you know?  Fleeing shuttles are the Reapers deadliest oppenent.

[halbert986]

MegaSovereign wrote...

If that's the worst thing about ME3 then it must be a fairly good game.

I'm not saying nothing else is bad, but I can at least see some logic behind the Catalyst. This evac scene wins the number one spot.

[Baa Baa]

MassEffectFShep wrote...

halbert986 wrote...

Reaper IFF my ass. You're 20 feet away. Harbingers just sittin there "Hey what's shepard doing loading everyone into this cool flying thingy?"

And even with that weak-ass excuse, it's contradictory to everything we just talked about with Anderson. No retreat, no turning back, one way trip. Shepard wouldn't just say "Holy **** this thing's actually dangerous, Joker come pick us up we're getting out of here!"

Not to mention it breaks the flow of that scene in half.

hahaha that would have been hilarious. halfway down the run to the beam, shepard could have been like "Whoa guys, ABORT MISSION!! Turns out that this reaper IS in fact ridiculously large and actively hostile, so NORMANDY GET OVER HERE STAT!!"

Would've made more sense if whoever you sent to that scene died, or if you have High EMS, one of them goes into the beam with you (whoever you talked to more).
I brought Vega and Garrus with me my first time... so that wouldn't have been a big deal to me Vega dies, Garrus and me, bros, kick ass together. Win.

[D24O]

It is pretty stupid, but at least when you're in the game (at least for me) it's alright. Better than *explosion* and your squad is gone, never to be seen or mentioned, except for maybe in the s****y crash scene like in the OE. That was just f***ing bad.

[mongoosephantom]

D24O wrote...

Flog61 wrote...

It's the second worst thing about me3.

The firs tis the disappointing lack of dinosaurs.

[Dessalines]

I like being able to say goodbye to the LI, but it is a pretty lame scene. They could have done that better, but the run to the beam on foot will always be worse. Seriously, everytime in the game you get hit with a beam, you die. This is not a normal Reaper, but Harbringer. You get hit by Harbringer's beam, and you get up. If Normady could fly down for evac, then couldn' some other ships have flown down to give the troops some air support to make sure more got to the beam.
Each DLC seems to create more plotholes.

[halbert986]

Baa Baa wrote...

MassEffectFShep wrote...

halbert986 wrote...

Reaper IFF my ass. You're 20 feet away. Harbingers just sittin there "Hey what's shepard doing loading everyone into this cool flying thingy?"

And even with that weak-ass excuse, it's contradictory to everything we just talked about with Anderson. No retreat, no turning back, one way trip. Shepard wouldn't just say "Holy **** this thing's actually dangerous, Joker come pick us up we're getting out of here!"

Not to mention it breaks the flow of that scene in half.

hahaha that would have been hilarious. halfway down the run to the beam, shepard could have been like "Whoa guys, ABORT MISSION!! Turns out that this reaper IS in fact ridiculously large and actively hostile, so NORMANDY GET OVER HERE STAT!!"

Would've made more sense if whoever you sent to that scene died, or if you have High EMS, one of them goes into the beam with you (whoever you talked to more).
I brought Vega and Garrus with me my first time... so that wouldn't have been a big deal to me Vega dies, Garrus and me, bros, kick ass together. Win.

Exactly what I did. 

Anderson saying "Pick your team well" made me think everyone was going to die. So I left Ashely behind and brought Garrus and Vega. But I guess not! Normandy is here to save the day guys!!! Woooo

[Geneaux486]

Harbinger was there to keep people from approaching the beam. Were Shepard and his squadmates approaching the beam during the evacuation? No? Then why would he focus on them when the rest of the unit still was?

[.PHANTOM]

my guess Harbinger wanted to give a long speech to Shepard and thought he was being dropped of by the Normandy and just couldn't think of anything worthwhile to say because you know they removed his vocal cords, or he had something planned for the Normandy, or maybe they'll use the Leviathans powers as an excuse to why Harby didn't blast the ship, but yeah they should clarify this.

[GreyLycanTrope]

D24O wrote...

It is pretty stupid, but at least when you're in the game (at least for me) it's alright. Better than *explosion* and your squad is gone, never to be seen or mentioned, except for maybe in the s****y crash scene like in the OE. That was just f***ing bad.

Yeah as dumb as it looks to have Harbinger just sit there, it's better then random teleportaion for sake of symbolism we had before. Also taking a romanced Tali along gets me right in the feel

[DeathWingKingUltimate]

Just forgive them and move on. This is not worth it.

[Geneaux486]

The logical time for the evac to come was the gap in time between Shepard and Anderson limping into the Citadel beam and the time that everyone realized that someone made it in there.

[D24O]

Greylycantrope wrote...

Yeah as dumb as it looks to have Harbinger just sit there, it's better then random teleportaion for sake of symbolism we had before. Also taking a romanced Tali along gets me right in the feel

It's better than taking the strongest element of your game, s***ing on it, and leaving it to starve on Planet Coward. So I'll take the silly evac scene over that every day.

[Zhijn]

Wouldnt call it the worst but its definitely out of place during a die trying charge with harby just sitting there drinking his tea. xD Probably why it wasnt included in the first place?.

Imo they should just had shown Shepard pull his/hers wounded team to the side instead, told em to wait for evac and he/she have to push on etc blabla.

[halbert986]

I don't see why everyone can't just die. That would have fit perfectly. It would have brought the war against the reapers home. Watching your squad get blasted into ash would have been the most emotional part of the game. Like it should have been. It would have made you hate the reapers, you'd be motivated and angry.

[Applepie_Svk]

Your answer is Reaper IFF :D:D:D LOLOLOL
Also LOLOLOL that EMS has a power to influence survival of companions,when it has none direct impact on Harbinger on conduit run.

[BatmanPWNS]

I found it more stupid that Shepard actually stopped just because he couldn't handle two of his allies dying. This was a now or never moment and Shepard just pressed the pause button.

[Ithurael]

superblaze1 wrote...


that's diffrent Reaper destroyer, but Harbringer is First Reaper, and it will not attack evac ships. basically i'm saying that all Reapers are diffrent but they are automated, Harbringer is not. he's just like Sovereign.

OK,

I have to know where you got that information? All reapers are independant (in ME1-2 post ME3 is up in the air as it is hard to be independant when your consciousness is linked to a central source) How is Harbinger not automated? He is a reaper and is part of starkid just as soveriegn was part of starkid?

And how does Harbinger being the first reaper mean that it will not attack evac ships?

[Master Xanthan]

Eskell wrote...

Indeed that was one of the worst scenes I've ever seen. Almost makes me think the original ending wasn't so bad...

Please tell me you're joking. The original endings are absolutely horrible, all the original endings were just different color explosions. The EC actually made each ending unique. 

[halbert986]

10110001110100 wrote...

Also, Javik was my squadmate when that happened.

Javik: "Shep, I.... I have a boo boo"

Shep: "Oh no! Are you ok little fella?"

Javik: "It really hurts"

Shep: "You're being REALLY brave. Ok I'm gonna call Joker and he'll put some medigel on that and take you for ice-cream, ok?"

Javik: *sniff* "In my cycle we had salarian flavour ice-cream"

Shep: "Well you can have chocolate, ok champ?"

Javik: "Primitives"


Guess he didn't want revenge for the annhialation of his race that much after all, huh?

Also this. 

The list of reasons why this scene is so horrible is a very long one. 

It completely undermines your squads motivation. Here are 100s of alliance soldiers dying in their attempts to complete the mission, and your squad get injured so they call it quits? HELL NO!

Garrus and Javik aren't going out like that! James certianly isn't. 

"Each of you needs to be willing to die to win the day."
Just kidding 

[Rommel49]

What's equally ridiculous is that Harbinger wasn't called as a Victor Target during that scene (and during the beam run in general). Oldest Reaper in the Armada, leader of the Reapers attacking Earth, actively impeding a critical objective minutes from its completion, at the decisive moment of the war? Every single piece of artillery within range, land and space should've been firing at it.

It's like getting invaded by the Mongol Horde, and when you finally have Genghis Khan in your sights... you just let him go to keep on with all the slaughtering and pillaging.

Both sides called a time out.

Modifié par Rommel49, 03 septembre 2012 - 07:34 .