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[Thaa_solon]

Barnzy wrote...
Thank god there are still some reasonable people here on BSN

Sorry Im not a religious man, but I believe in reason.

These days reason have washed down the drain here on BSN

[Thaa_solon]

BiO_MaN wrote...

I've said it many times before to other users - this is EA's fault, not Bioware's. Maybe Bioware could have fleshed out their ideas better in such a short time-span, but in the end, it is not Bioware who set this dev time, it's EA. If Bioware didn't have a dead-line, Mass Effect 3 would have been so much more.

It is actually BW's fault since they proposed to join EA in hopes to get funding for ME2

EA may be the archvillain

But here BW is the mainvillain

[Barnzy]

Thaa_solon wrote...

Barnzy wrote...

Really, this is what you call "fighing for the game we were promised". Including the word "derp" in every one of your posts. I'm sure they'll listen, keep it up!

If I promised you ONEMILLION dollars and you didn't get it, Im pretty sure you would go derp also.

Also Im really not after the attention of BW(they didn't really listen in the first place) simply it's interresting how other people here on BSN agree/disagree over BW's mistakes.

You seem to be arguing that the entirety of ME3 didn't live up to your expectations, and was, therfore, filled with mistakes made by bioware. While i would agree with you that it didn't live up to expectations (except for Tuchanka). However, this thread was originally made to discuss the Human Reaper. You then derailed this conversation with arguments which had no actual proof to back it up, then insisted that all of bioware was "derp". While you have my sympathies that ME3 didn't live up to your expectations, make a seperate thread about it, don't derail a thread so you can continue "fighing for the game we were promised".

[Barnzy]

Thaa_solon wrote...

Barnzy wrote...
Thank god there are still some reasonable people here on BSN

Sorry Im not a religious man, but I believe in reason.

These days reason have washed down the drain here on BSN

It's a commonly used figure of speech thats not meant to actually imply one's belief in a god, but rather that one is relieved ....

[N7Gold]

The Human Reaper was still a larvae it was made from harvested humans unlike the common Reapers that existed before it.

[Thaa_solon]

Barnzy wrote...

Thaa_solon wrote...

Barnzy wrote...

Really, this is what you call "fighing for the game we were promised". Including the word "derp" in every one of your posts. I'm sure they'll listen, keep it up!

If I promised you ONEMILLION dollars and you didn't get it, Im pretty sure you would go derp also.

Also Im really not after the attention of BW(they didn't really listen in the first place) simply it's interresting how other people here on BSN agree/disagree over BW's mistakes.

You seem to be arguing that the entirety of ME3 didn't live up to your expectations, and was, therfore, filled with mistakes made by bioware. While i would agree with you that it didn't live up to expectations (except for Tuchanka). However, this thread was originally made to discuss the Human Reaper. You then derailed this conversation with arguments which had no actual proof to back it up, then insisted that all of bioware was "derp". While you have my sympathies that ME3 didn't live up to your expectations, make a seperate thread about it, don't derail a thread so you can continue "fighing for the game we were promised".

Back on subject

The reaper: a creation of the reapers(Solution by the catalyst) to preserve life(insert random species to make core) in reaperform(Leviathan shaped shell) to stop organic civilisations from constructing synthetics every 50k years, a problem which originated from the leviathans since their mind controlled thralls kept building  synthetic life and died off so they could not pay tribute to the leviathans.

Did I get it right?

[Thaa_solon]

Barnzy wrote...

Thaa_solon wrote...

Barnzy wrote...
Thank god there are still some reasonable people here on BSN

Sorry Im not a religious man, but I believe in reason.

These days reason have washed down the drain here on BSN

It's a commonly used figure of speech thats not meant to actually imply one's belief in a god, but rather that one is relieved ....

Enjoy your faliure

[Barnzy]

Thaa_solon wrote...

Barnzy wrote...

Thaa_solon wrote...

Barnzy wrote...
Thank god there are still some reasonable people here on BSN

Sorry Im not a religious man, but I believe in reason.

These days reason have washed down the drain here on BSN

It's a commonly used figure of speech thats not meant to actually imply one's belief in a god, but rather that one is relieved ....

Enjoy your faliure

Not really a failure on my part, more like you fail to see that it has since evolved to be a figure of speech. All you've proven is that, before it became a figure of speech, it had a religious aspect to it. Well of course it did! I don't see why you would need to look that up, it was kinda obvious....


Back on topic:

Thaa_solon wrote...

Back on subject

The reaper: a
creation of the reapers (Solution by the catalyst) to preserve
life (insert random species to make core) in reaperform(Leviathan shaped
shell) to stop organic civilisations from constructing synthetics every
50k years, a problem which originated from the leviathans since their
mind controlled thralls kept building  synthetic life and died off so
they could not pay tribute to the leviathans.

Did I get it right?

you got there in the end ....

Modifié par Barnzy, 04 septembre 2012 - 07:40 .

[Thaa_solon]

Barnzy wrote...

Thaa_solon wrote...

Barnzy wrote...

Thaa_solon wrote...

Barnzy wrote...
Thank god there are still some reasonable people here on BSN

Sorry Im not a religious man, but I believe in reason.

These days reason have washed down the drain here on BSN

It's a commonly used figure of speech thats not meant to actually imply one's belief in a god, but rather that one is relieved ....

Enjoy your faliure

Not really a failure on my part, more like you fail to see that it has since evolved to be a figure of speech. All you've proven is that, before it became a figure of speech, it has a religious aspect to it. Well of course it did! I don't see why you would need to look that up, it was kinda obvious....

Exactly

Reapers had a diffrent meaning before they were changed storywise, and alot of people still don't get this.

See my point

[Thaa_solon]

Barnzy wrote...

you got there in the end ....

yay:D

[Cainne Chapel]

BiO_MaN wrote...

I've said it many times before to other users - this is EA's fault, not Bioware's. Maybe Bioware could have fleshed out their ideas better in such a short time-span, but in the end, it is not Bioware who set this dev time, it's EA. If Bioware didn't have a dead-line, Mass Effect 3 would have been so much more.

True, but imagine if they had more time with ME2 as well!

Unfortunately, hindsight being 20/20 you could say this for every game ever released, even ME1.

ME2 took them two years,s o i guess theyf igured they could do 3 in a similar amount of time  *shrug*
One thing I will not do though is pine over "what if".

What if ME1 had an unlimited budget and a 7 year dev time, imagine what could of been!
What if ME2's storyline wasnt a giant side mission so to speak and actually dealt directly with preparing for the reaper invasion, imagine the possibilites!
What if ME3 instead took place AFTER the invasion that started at the end of ME2 instead and followed the guerilla style warfare shep had to pepetrate inorder to stop the main reaper "hive-mind"

we could go on forever like that, But we have to take what we got in all 3 games unfortunately

[RadiantLegend]

Does Harby have a lil harby inside him or does he not have a core?

[Alex Kershaw]

The human looking thing is just the inside of the Reaper

[Garrus is my Shepard]

 See this:

www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/04/21/mass-effect-a-q-amp-a-for-hardcore-fans.aspx

[Sovereign330]

My theory.
Skinny model = Troop Transport
Fat model = Processor Ship

[Vespervin]

bgroberts wrote...

Here's an interesting thought: the outer shell/case of a Reaper (the real war machine part) may be a copy of technology and means by which the Leviathans traveled through space and led their conquests. They were likely encased in these large dreadnoughts less in a way we would think of a ship and more to them like a bio-mechanical suit. The additional spaces and room for crew were for their organic thralls to tend to them and to provide for their transportation along with the leviathan.

When the Intelligence/Catalyst turned on the Leviathans and turned them into the first "true Reaper", it likely just copied this technology the best it could. The core "entity", vulnerable and ill suited for mobility, was encased in the larger apparatus and so it continued for every species. This would explain the silliness of why even bother with a "Reaper core" and have a big goofy terminator human reaper larva. Everything about the Reapers is an imperfect copy of the Leviathans technology (I say imperfect because it is hinted the Leviathans are still more advanced).

i just headcannoned this. Cheers! 

[TheBlackRose]

markshaxted wrote...

Sme bioware exec has said that the core of each Reaper is in the form of the species, while the shell is in Leviathan form... So that human Reaper was just the core.

Not according to the very last shot of ME2, where we see about a hundred different looking Reapers approaching the galaxy. Where exactly were they keeping this "shell"?

[oblique9]

Bioware had several competing ideas that they worked into the game, chose some, threw others out for ME3, retconned some things, and now we have this.

Seems like they didn't have the story too well thought out before making the game(s).

That said, I think the story (minus the infamous ending to ME3) was one of the best I've experienced.

[Addictress]

I give that Bioware exec kudos for a great excuse anyways