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[xGunKungFUx]

jaydubs67 wrote...

Actually, a +100% multiplier vs whatever defense would be enough to achieve 5,000 damage.  Here's the math.  To be clear, I haven't tested it, and I don't know if there are any multipliers at all.  I can't actually confirm that HA melee does 5,000 damage, just that it could in fact do 5,000 damage if a +100% multiplier was in effect.  

Base HA heavy melee = 500.  

500 * (1[this is the base melee] + .95[this is the fitness melee tree] + .75[martial artist from fitness] + 1[melee damage amp] + .3[melee gear]) * (1[base] + .25[melee stunner and bayonet are multiplicative bonuses]) = 2,500

So the maximum damage before multipliers for the HA heavy melee is 2,500.  If you add a +100% multiplier vs certain defenses (which is also multiplicative when applicable) you get 5,000.  

I love you jay

[DESTRAUDO]

Could well be a hidden bonus for their melee against barriers. It is a biotic melee afterall. If there is a bonus i wonder if other biotic melees get a bonus to barrier damage.

[xGunKungFUx]

Chealec wrote...

How are you speccing fitness? Full melee? Besides, you get 2 Human Adepts ... got nothing to lose by trying out an oddball build on one of them

 ya full melee and strength enhacer and melee gun mod and juggernaut shield or martial biotics

[soultaker65]

I just tried it and he's right it can two shot a Brutes, but I think this may be a bug here's the build I used.
http://narida.pytalh...2@0QEROF4G4@0@0

[PsychoticBiotic]

Testing now.

[xGunKungFUx]

DESTRAUDO wrote...

Could well be a hidden bonus for their melee against barriers. It is a biotic melee afterall. If there is a bonus i wonder if other biotic melees get a bonus to barrier damage.

could be... i know you do 0 dmg to a phantom with her bubble up.. if she doesnt though first melee takes her barriers 2nd melee kills her

[landylan]

I wasted 700,000 credits to get a damn respec card.

It didn't even take one bar off that bloated ****.

I had every melee bonus possible with equipment and berserker package.

[Chealec]

I'm so gonna have to try this tomorrow just for the lulz ... it might suck completely, you might be trolling us all ... but I'm not bothered, it'll be a laugh if nothing else.

Melee adept with an Eagle II - here I come

[Caratinoid]

Well, I have seen what a krogan heavy melee can do with everything (powers, consumables, weapon mods) maxed out for melee, might as well try this one, never use shields anyway, thank you for sharing this.

[landylan]

Rubios wrote...

landylan wrote...

I wasted 700,000 credits to get a damn respec card.

It didn't even take one bar off that bloated ****.

I had every melee bonus possible with equipment and berserker package.

So... your jimmies got rustled? 

My jammies are officially rustled.

[xGunKungFUx]

landylan wrote...

I wasted 700,000 credits to get a damn respec card.

It didn't even take one bar off that bloated ****.

I had every melee bonus possible with equipment and berserker package.

Banshees i never claimed the heavy melee kills her, only her barriers. The heavymelee doesnt do awhole lot to banshees armor life, or atlases armor life. Which confuses me seeing how it wrecks everything else in the game

[xGunKungFUx]

soultaker65 wrote...

I just tried it and he's right it can two shot a Brutes, but I think this may be a bug here's the build I used.
http://narida.pytalh...2@0QEROF4G4@0@0

Thanks for trying it out and getting my back on this one. not sure why this community is so untrusting , and so quick to chop everything down before taking 20 minutes of their time totry something

[PsychoticBiotic]

Well, he's right, it does take four bars off brutes and Banshees. Something that you must try is Singularity + Heavy Melee. That has got to be the funniest thing in the game. It launches them into the heavens

[mybudgee]

It's human nature to be cautious and not trust. We BSNers need to rise above that, especially when it comes to trying builds.

[Caratinoid]

PsychoticBiotic wrote...

Well, he's right, it does take four bars off brutes and Banshees. Something that you must try is Singularity + Heavy Melee. That has got to be the funniest thing in the game. It launches them into the heavens

Can't wait to try it.

[xGunKungFUx]

mybudgee wrote...

It's human nature to be cautious and not trust. We BSNers need to rise above that, especially when it comes to trying builds.

Ya peeps are just crazy. Ive tried every build that  people have ever posted on here. Why you ask? cause why the hell not.

[soultaker65]

Alright I just finished a Reaper/Gold match got to wave 7 and he's right it will two shot Brutes and Ravagers after a Warp, after two shots a Marauder will have 1 bar of health due to the shield-gate and with banshees I never got the chance to see how much it did to her barrier it does take two bars of her armor.

Now that I look at the build it most likely due to Martial Artist, Strength Enhancer 3, and Hydraulic Joints (5).
This may work on all characters or it may be a bug.

Modifié par soultaker65, 03 septembre 2012 - 10:41 .

[DullahansXMark]

yarpenthemad21 wrote...

xGunKungFUx wrote...


I dont have to prove anything at all to you. Build the character and play it. If it doesnt do what i say come back and cry all you want. Till then shove it my friend.

and i don't have to test it.
for now it's your words vs math
so you are just trolling or
adept heavy melee has some 200%+ multiplier vs everything
 or 

quote from balance changes
Human Adept Heavy Melee
- Base damage increased from 250 to 500 

maybe they screw it and instead of 500 they changed to 5000

last time when I used heavy melee on some gold husk it was still alive. how some  150% melee damage + melee stuner makes it hit that hard? space magic?

or other space magic.

No it's not worh wasting respec card and time to "test it". 

Waste a re-spec card? You... you have two.

[landylan]

xGunKungFUx wrote...

landylan wrote...

I wasted 700,000 credits to get a damn respec card.

It didn't even take one bar off that bloated ****.

I had every melee bonus possible with equipment and berserker package.

Banshees i never claimed the heavy melee kills her, only her barriers. The heavymelee doesnt do awhole lot to banshees armor life, or atlases armor life. Which confuses me seeing how it wrecks everything else in the game

It does just around one bar of damage to her barriers.

[landylan]

soultaker65 wrote...

Alright I just finished a Reaper/Gold match got to wave 7 and he's right it will two shot Brutes and Ravagers after a Warp, after two shots a Marauder will have 1 bar of health due to the shield-gate and with banshees I never got the chance to see how much it did to her barrier it does take two bars of her armor.

Now that I look at the build it most likely due to Martial Artist, Strength Enhancer 3, and Hydraulic Joints (5).
This may work on all characters or it may be a bug.

The martial artist bonus will bring it right around 4 bars on a brute, but nobody said that he was wrond about that part.

[mybudgee]

I, too love melee builds..

[Tybo]

jaydubs67 wrote...

Actually, a +100% multiplier vs whatever defense would be enough to achieve 5,000 damage.  Here's the math.  To be clear, I haven't tested it, and I don't know if there are any multipliers at all.  I can't actually confirm that HA melee does 5,000 damage, just that it could in fact do 5,000 damage if a +100% multiplier was in effect.  

Base HA heavy melee = 500.  

500 * (1[this is the base melee] + .95[this is the fitness melee tree] + .75[martial artist from fitness] + 1[melee damage amp] + .3[melee gear]) * (1[base] + .25[melee stunner and bayonet are multiplicative bonuses]) = 2,500

So the maximum damage before multipliers for the HA heavy melee is 2,500.  If you add a +100% multiplier vs certain defenses (which is also multiplicative when applicable) you get 5,000.  

Edit: 

Whoops.  Hydraulic joints (gear) actually adds 15% not 30%.  So the damage is actually 2,406.5.  Not a big difference, but worth noting I suppose.  

Actually, melee gear only gives 30% as well.  So the damage is 
500*(1+.95+.75+.3+.15)*1.25=1968.5.

This number is consistent with the one bar of damage to banshee barriers, but to nothing else.  There must be either a gigantic multiplier to defenses, or some sort of bug going on here.  Unexpected behavior has previously been seen in the interaction between warp and incendiary ammo.  Will have to try this out and see.