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The Raptor and Power creep: How the prince of snipers has fallen. (NECROS HAVE REVIVED THE FALLEN!!)


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stefbomb wrote...

tntk252 wrote...

I can back up the Arc Pistol/Raptor claims. I just tried it out then. Even without charging the pistol, the faster fire rate and just all around better-ness of it makes it far preferable to something like the Raptor, where the scope makes it difficult to fight in extremely close range.


In extremely close range you should be hip-firing.


Nope. In close range, I swapped to the arc pistol. Because it was just better.

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josehinojos wrote...

I personally think the Raptor shines......when in the hands of a Nemesis.


We don't have access to that charged assassination shot though. Wish that we did...could you imagine it. A two stage weapon with the fast shots, or a charged high impact shot that drained 5 points of heat.

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GGW KillerTiger

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Comparing an Uncommon sniper to an ultra-rare sniper for why the uncommon sniper is no longer useful. Fail troll is fail.

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GGW KillerTiger wrote...

Comparing an Uncommon sniper to an ultra-rare sniper for why the uncommon sniper is no longer useful. Fail troll is fail.


Please read the thread before posting garbage like this, thanks.

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ShadedPhoenix wrote...

Bump for justice :D



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Maker MEDA

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Yeah, the Raptor need some love, for sure. Could be fun to use it on silver at least. It's not even good for Bronze right now.

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stefbomb wrote...

tntk252 wrote...

I can back up the Arc Pistol/Raptor claims. I just tried it out then. Even without charging the pistol, the faster fire rate and just all around better-ness of it makes it far preferable to something like the Raptor, where the scope makes it difficult to fight in extremely close range.


In extremely close range you should be hip-firing.


The thing is: The Arc Pistol also hipfires for more damage, fires 40% faster, and doesn't even have to hipfire.

Kalas321 wrote...

ShadedPhoenix wrote...

Bump for justice :D


Daww. You guys keeping the legend alive overnight. :wub:

GGW KillerTiger wrote...

Comparing an Uncommon sniper to an ultra-rare sniper for why the uncommon sniper is no longer useful. Fail troll is fail.


:huh:
Why is my first arguement the only one that has been critisized. Nevermind never critisized from only an impossibly narrow viewpoint that makes little sense.

Bane says: You have my permission to not buff the Raptor, when you tell me how to nerf the Mattock in its stead. :ph34r:

Modifié par Rokayt, 06 septembre 2012 - 06:20 .


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MajorStupidity

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Bump!

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Rokayt

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We really need more ignorant people. Them making totally incomplete arguments is excellent bumpage.....

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Omg raptor sux use better gun idiot!!1



I mean, bump ;)

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Bump for the glorious restoration for our beloved Raptor.

EDIT: Damn josh beat me to it!:P

Modifié par Get fired up, 06 septembre 2012 - 07:37 .


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Agueybana

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Rokayt wrote...

We really need more ignorant people. Them making totally incomplete arguments is excellent bumpage.....


Well it's about the Raptor, and we're in an FTL capable forum, so...

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New challenge: If this buff happens, I will change my avatar to this dancing magical girl with maracas:
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Edit: I may increase the contrast slightly to make it look better, first.

I knew I was going to be winning this campaign on sex appeal!

Modifié par Rokayt, 06 septembre 2012 - 11:07 .


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UEG Donkey

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I like using the Raptor, but you've got to tailor your build around it I wouldn't mind either a Damage buff or a rate of fire buff.

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UEG Donkey wrote...

I like using the Raptor, but you've got to tailor your build around it I wouldn't mind either a Damage buff or a rate of fire buff.


I would..... Like to be that Naiive still.

However, Tailoring your build around it still leaves you with four weapons that leave you with no reason to ever use the thing over.

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So I have to ask, Rokayt...

Why no 'The Eviscerator and Power creep: How the prince of shotguns has fallen." Thread?

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+1 for Raptor buff.
I used it a lot in the good old days...

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Rokayt wrote...

New challenge: If this buff happens, I will change my avatar to this dancing magical girl with maracas:
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Edit: I may increase the contrast slightly to make it look better, first.

I knew I was going to be winning this campaign on sex appeal!


That alone is reason enough for BW to buff the Raptor :D

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Rokayt

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

So I have to ask, Rokayt...

Why no 'The Eviscerator and Power creep: How the prince of shotguns has fallen." Thread?


Let me wind up my brain and look at stat pages for 40 minutes again....

*Tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick....*

I am not feeling it yet.

*Tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick......*

It fills its role pretty well actually....
Well..... I am advocating a scimitar buff.... Buffing the scimitar would kill the eviscerator.... So I would likely have to buff the two in tandem....

*Tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick......*

Probably should go into the Inter uncommon balancing front.... Probably a buff by the same scale by which I buff the Scimitar. (Based on SMG performance in uncommon tiers, if you are curious.)

Modifié par Rokayt, 06 septembre 2012 - 09:03 .


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I'd like to express support for the Raptor myself. I've recently had my version upgraded to Level X, and even at that lofty stage I still find the weapon to be less useful to me than my Mattock VI. I've gone over elsewhere the problems I have with weapons like the Mantis; needless to say my dexterity and gameplay ability just isn't good enough to truly make use of one-hit headshot type weapons. I'm just not good enough for that sort of thing.

Now, I realize there are things like the Indra and the Valiant, but not everyone has access to those weapons. In fact in the early days of MP I was drawn to the Raptor specifically because it was the only suitable sniper-rifle alternative that I could use effectively. As the weapon also received upgrades faster than the rest of my stock I stuck with it, all the way up to Level VIII. At that point however I began to get access to other upgraded weapons and that's more or less when I realized what the problem was. I'll take my scoped Tempest VII over the Raptor X at this point; and that's not a good thing.

I do have to wonder just what could be done - or perhaps what we hope could be done to improve the situation here. Lord knows I'd like to see the Raptor shine again, but if the Locust-situation is any indication of what we might expect, I'm not holding my breath.

#346
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This time I have given a much better arguement as to why It should be buffed, comparing it to other things similar to it (In one way or another) in the game.

My next project will hold every uncommon outclassed by another uncommon, and use comparisons to other uncommons in the balancing of the uncommon tier as a whole.

Should be interesting, to say the least.

#347
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We all know you will do an amazing job of it at that.

#348
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RealTerminal wrote...

We all know you will do an amazing job of it at that.


Thanks!

(It also has the potential to be much more legendary then this... Given how I am going to format it.)

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My avatar also says she wants buff, that's why she's using a Viper.

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Gravisanimi wrote...

My avatar also says she wants buff, that's why she's using a Viper.


I am confused as to why it isn't a palm blaster she be using.