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The Raptor and Power creep: How the prince of snipers has fallen. (NECROS HAVE REVIVED THE FALLEN!!)


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Rokayt wrote...

I can still take the Raptor to gold and top the scoreboard on the SI.


ShadedPhoenix wrote...

Actually i contribute with the raptor on plat... tho i rather take my valiant or paladin over it, which is very sad, i cannot do a real cerberus infiltrator themed build


Let's try it without an infiltrator now shall we? Say, female human engineer?

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Blind2Society wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Just played a game with Blind2Society. (Randomly joined his PUG match). Would've played more but lost connection on wave 3 of the 2nd match. Gotta love Origin.


Origin sucks. We went on to extract (2/4). The scoreboard was very one sided in the end but then, I was a GI. You ended up getting replaced by a Slayer who kept dying, can't really recall one of the guys (even though it only ended a short time ago) and the destroyer with the piranha had a very low score for how fast he was tearing through banshees.


Origin sucks indeed. GI is FTW but I prefer the Piranha on it. I use the GPS on the GE but wasn't game to use in your match because my connection to you sucked. :crying:

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Also B2S, how come you don't have a Mic? Woulda been cool if we could talk.

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

Also B2S, how come you don't have a Mic? Woulda been cool if we could talk.


I have a mic, I was trying to talk to you. Was wondering why you weren't talking back.

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Weird... I was talking to you. But the in-game thing sucks. I often can't hear one or two people in a match. It's really annoying.

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Bummer. So few people talk on PC it's hard to tell if my mic works 100% of the time. I never have a prob talking to the people on my friends list though.

I'll add you on Origin, we'll give it another go sometime (I'm done for the night).

EDIT: Ninjad, just saw your friend invite.

Modifié par Blind2Society, 07 septembre 2012 - 09:08 .


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Wah? ME? without an infiltrator? Thats blasphemous!

Then i would had to take my geth engineer and play somewhat carefull! how dare you!

Oh wait, i did a all lv1 on reaper/ghost/gold(u/u/g) with extraction as justicar with raptor and revenant.... the raptor being my primary means to kill stuff

The gun does work for me, but i havent used anything beside it i think for a good 2-3 months since release.... until i got the revenant, which i used almost exclusively until i got the harrier, which is the only gun i believe to be "perfect" (does everything, nothing perfect)

Still would like to see it kept on paar with its ar counterpart mattock that i see on many caster that desire a strong accurate gun

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ShadedPhoenix wrote...

Wah? ME? without an infiltrator? Thats blasphemous!


Maybe so but the point is that SRs should be viable on classes without crazy damage bonuses, and as they are, they are not even close (especially the raptor, viper and inscisor).

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Blind2Society wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

I can still take the Raptor to gold and top the scoreboard on the SI.


ShadedPhoenix wrote...

Actually i contribute with the raptor on plat... tho i rather take my valiant or paladin over it, which is very sad, i cannot do a real cerberus infiltrator themed build


Let's try it without an infiltrator now shall we? Say, female human engineer?

Amusing, I did that not too long ago. Still topped the scoreboard in my usual group, I think. My index finger was very appreciative of me dropping the gun after one match though. But using a mediocre weapon on a power based class doesn't matter that much anyway.

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Well, i find it quite reliable on a justicar, unless i want to play serious then i bring eagle and harrier....

*edit*

I would be playing the infiltrators even if it were the weakest class, the sneaky backstabbing ratpeople do fit my style of aggresive flanking maneuvers, theres a reason i cant stop grinning stupid playing a hyperagile vorcha (adrenaline 3 on vorcha with revenant :D)

Modifié par ShadedPhoenix, 07 septembre 2012 - 09:17 .


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No offense but I'll believe it when I see it.

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I offer a l14 vorcha sentinel on gold with raptor and harrier, how bout it? got a bit time at this moment, buts its running out

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I remember seeing that video claiming the Raptor was OP

ahh in the old days....

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Well, I took it with a couple of other weapons, then I unlocked the particle Rifle. I had absolutely no need to touch the raptor.

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DHKany wrote...

I remember seeing that video claiming the Raptor was OP

ahh in the old days....

I remember getting a kick vote for picking a level 5 Battlefield 3 Soldier with a Raptor. On silver.

Ahh, good old days...

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

If Rokayt can do bronze with a weapon it has to be OP.

:P


Not true.

I can do gold with just the Falcon and the Eagle.

This doesn't make either OP.

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This thread needs more Bioware. If only there were a way that they could give their opinion without it being such a big deal. . . I also hope that the Raptor gets a buff. It's a fantastic weapon for semi-automatic gun lovers. My Male Quarian Infiltrator doesn't leave home without it (when I'm only interested in playing for fun).

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They realized that posting on the Cryo blast thread is likely going to kill it by the end of the day......

Whelp.

We will get larger then Quarian bum bum ever did, then Call it epic.

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The min refire penalty really makes no sense on a low damage, non burst, non aoe knockback, semi-auto like the raptor. Just removing the refire and upping its damage 10-20 points would at least make the weapon somewhat viable without over powering it.

I never understood why over the course of 3 or 4 Mattock buffs, the raptor was never fixed. Its basically the same type of weapon just in the sniper rifle category.

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Vast wrote...

The min refire penalty really makes no sense on a low damage, non burst, non aoe knockback, semi-auto like the raptor. Just removing the refire and upping its damage 10-20 points would at least make the weapon somewhat viable without over powering it.

I never understood why over the course of 3 or 4 Mattock buffs, the raptor was never fixed. Its basically the same type of weapon just in the sniper rifle category.

Get rid of the minrefiretime but lower the RoF to 400 or 450, than bring the damage up to around ~120-150.

Heavier than the mattock with a lower RoF, but higher damage per shot with a built in scope.

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Vast wrote...

The min refire penalty really makes no sense on a low damage, non burst, non aoe knockback, semi-auto like the raptor. Just removing the refire and upping its damage 10-20 points would at least make the weapon somewhat viable without over powering it.

I never understood why over the course of 3 or 4 Mattock buffs, the raptor was never fixed. Its basically the same type of weapon just in the sniper rifle category.


Well... My main buff is increasing its damage to an acceptable level (For a weapon that fires slower then the mattock, but weighs more,) with the options of killing the min-refire penalty for good, or making its hipfire accurate enough to be considered usefull.

MajorStupidity wrote...

Vast wrote...

The
min refire penalty really makes no sense on a low damage, non burst, non
aoe knockback, semi-auto like the raptor. Just removing the refire and
upping its damage 10-20 points would at least make the weapon somewhat
viable without over powering it.

I never understood why over the
course of 3 or 4 Mattock buffs, the raptor was never fixed. Its
basically the same type of weapon just in the sniper rifle
category.

Get rid of the minrefiretime but lower the RoF to 400 or 450, than bring the damage up to around ~120-150.




This is exactly what Is suggested in the OP.

Modifié par Rokayt, 07 septembre 2012 - 09:19 .


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Rokayt wrote...

Vast wrote...

The min refire penalty really makes no sense on a low damage, non burst, non aoe knockback, semi-auto like the raptor. Just removing the refire and upping its damage 10-20 points would at least make the weapon somewhat viable without over powering it.

I never understood why over the course of 3 or 4 Mattock buffs, the raptor was never fixed. Its basically the same type of weapon just in the sniper rifle category.


Well... My main buff is increasing its damage to an acceptable level (For a weapon that fires slower then the mattock, but weighs more,) with the options of killing the min-refire penalty for good, or making its hipfire accurate enough to be considered usefull.

MajorStupidity wrote...

Vast wrote...

The
min refire penalty really makes no sense on a low damage, non burst, non
aoe knockback, semi-auto like the raptor. Just removing the refire and
upping its damage 10-20 points would at least make the weapon somewhat
viable without over powering it.

I never understood why over the
course of 3 or 4 Mattock buffs, the raptor was never fixed. Its
basically the same type of weapon just in the sniper rifle
category.

Get rid of the minrefiretime but lower the RoF to 400 or 450, than bring the damage up to around ~120-150.




This is exactly what Is suggested in the OP.

Yes I know, I was just pointing that out to Vast who was stating a 10-20% damage increase which is too small to make the raptor a viable alternative to the mattock.

BTW how do you place images in your sig?

Modifié par MajorStupidity, 07 septembre 2012 - 09:23 .


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MajorStupidity wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Vast wrote...

The min refire penalty really makes no sense on a low damage, non burst, non aoe knockback, semi-auto like the raptor. Just removing the refire and upping its damage 10-20 points would at least make the weapon somewhat viable without over powering it.

I never understood why over the course of 3 or 4 Mattock buffs, the raptor was never fixed. Its basically the same type of weapon just in the sniper rifle category.


Well... My main buff is increasing its damage to an acceptable level (For a weapon that fires slower then the mattock, but weighs more,) with the options of killing the min-refire penalty for good, or making its hipfire accurate enough to be considered usefull.

MajorStupidity wrote...

Vast wrote...

The
min refire penalty really makes no sense on a low damage, non burst, non
aoe knockback, semi-auto like the raptor. Just removing the refire and
upping its damage 10-20 points would at least make the weapon somewhat
viable without over powering it.

I never understood why over the
course of 3 or 4 Mattock buffs, the raptor was never fixed. Its
basically the same type of weapon just in the sniper rifle
category.

Get rid of the minrefiretime but lower the RoF to 400 or 450, than bring the damage up to around ~120-150.




This is exactly what Is suggested in the OP.

Yes I know, I was just pointing that out to Vast who was stating a 10-20% damage increase which is too small to make the raptor a viable alternative to the mattock.

BTW how you place images in your sig.


Post the Images URL, something like this: http://kisrael.com/m...07/17/J5HTt.jpg

Then before it put IMG wrapped in [ these brackets ]
After it, put /img in the same brackets.

You will get:

Image IPB

#624
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Thank you. I had forgotten about the IMG tags needed.

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MajorStupidity wrote...

Get rid of the minrefiretime but lower the RoF to 400 or 450, than bring the damage up to around ~120-150.


Sounds about right to me.

Also, Shaded, I was going to bed  when I posted that. We can play some games today if you want.

Modifié par Blind2Society, 07 septembre 2012 - 09:35 .