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The Raptor and Power creep: How the prince of snipers has fallen. (NECROS HAVE REVIVED THE FALLEN!!)


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#951
Rokayt

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Blind2Society wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Blind2Society wrote...

A very worthy necro, I've missed this thread. Where you at Rokayt?


Apparently, I was revived by people on steam.
Namey, because of this necro.


Hey hey! That was quick, you must have been lurking.


Not once.
Someone bugged me in th emiddle of killing floor games, while I was in said games for several months to get back into ME3.

Then my game crashed to desktop, and I decided to check the forums to see if a patch had recently come out.

Then I saw my greatest thread being necrotized.

Modifié par Rokayt, 03 février 2013 - 04:06 .


#952
121210Olivia

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Blind2Society wrote...

Indra buff? Raptor stays lame?

What kind of drugs are you on Olivia?


Oh, you know...kind of prioritising ones. 

On topic, I did mention I'd rather see the Indra buffed *if* only one of them (i.e., the Indra and the Raptor) were to be chosen by the devs.

Of course, I'd like to see both buffed, but I doubt this would ever happen.

Regarding buffing the Indra--please note I know it already performs well on many weapons based classes. My asking is mainly concerned with how it performs with Asari (my all time favourite class since day one).

#953
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There are better reasons for buffing something then "I want it buffed"

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Rokayt wrote...

There are better reasons for buffing something then "I want it buffed"


Indeed. Many have been stated in this thread by your good self, no less. 
But, unlike the success had with the Locust, the Raptor seems to remain in limbo.

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Rokayt

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121210Olivia wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

There are better reasons for buffing something then "I want it buffed"


Indeed. Many have been stated in this thread by your good self, no less. 
But, unlike the success had with the Locust, the Raptor seems to remain in limbo.


Indeed.
As does the scimitar.

Prioritizing the Indra first over the raptor definately doesn't help either.

#956
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I think the Scimitar needs more help than the Raptor tbh.

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Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

I think the Scimitar needs more help than the Raptor tbh.


So much more.

Albiet, the weight loss seems ike it could be.... INTERESTING.......

 I have said this on so many weapons before, Weight reductions won't really help a weapon that is just not.... FEELING functional.

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So many classes can get away with a higher cooldown between this and the general lightweight of so many weapons, weight decreases for weapons that are already extremely light do not accomplish much... welcome back rokayt btw.

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Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

I think the Scimitar needs more help than the Raptor tbh.


Yes.

All my yes.

And a couple of my firstborns. (I get around)

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The buff the scimitar movement existed quite a while back, it died out due to not having my name as an official poster.

It came out minutes after this thread, actually.

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Rokayt wrote...

The buff the scimitar movement existed quite a while back, it died out due to not having my name as an official poster.

It came out minutes after this thread, actually.

I believe it was posted by DHG Kany (or something similar)

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MajorStupidity wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

The buff the scimitar movement existed quite a while back, it died out due to not having my name as an official poster.

It came out minutes after this thread, actually.

I believe it was posted by DHG Kany (or something similar)


...Didn't he become RNG God? Or is that someone else?

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The raptor doesn't seem too bad.

It's light, has a scope, is not affected by the HVB barrel weight so it can get two mods in one while taking a spare ammo mod.

It's better than the mattock.

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Pyroninja42 wrote...

MajorStupidity wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

The buff the scimitar movement existed quite a while back, it died out due to not having my name as an official poster.

It came out minutes after this thread, actually.

I believe it was posted by DHG Kany (or something similar)


...Didn't he become RNG God? Or is that someone else?



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MajorStupidity

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Pyroninja42 wrote...

MajorStupidity wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

The buff the scimitar movement existed quite a while back, it died out due to not having my name as an official poster.

It came out minutes after this thread, actually.

I believe it was posted by DHG Kany (or something similar)


...Didn't he become RNG God? Or is that someone else?

No that was salvation through destruction. Remember him for the fresh prince of glacier thread :lol:
*edit ninja'd

Modifié par MajorStupidity, 03 février 2013 - 06:28 .


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More than anything the TYPHOON needs a buff.................................................lol jus kiddding. And welcome back Rokayt :-)

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OperatingWookie wrote...

The raptor doesn't seem too bad.

It's light, has a scope, is not affected by the HVB barrel weight so it can get two mods in one while taking a spare ammo mod.

It's better than the mattock.


Last time I looked at it on paper, it was staistically... FARRRR Worse.

Modifié par Rokayt, 03 février 2013 - 07:17 .


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The raptor isn't bad. My brother scored a 175K game last night with a vanilla human infiltrator toting a raptor as his only weapon. Against collectors no less. There are weapons that need buffs far worse.

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Raptor requires a class that can boost Damage considerably, so basically Human Infiltrator or the Human Soldier.

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The Raptor barely compares to the Mattock: it does ~17% less damage per shot, for a measly 20% weight advantage. At such low damage without auto fire, the scope is actually a penalty to the gun (tunnel vision) compared to it.
If at least it was an automatic weapon it could be somehow interesting, but without a macro/auto-fire controller it's not.

Modifié par ArcaptSSX, 03 février 2013 - 07:53 .


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Rokayt wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

The raptor doesn't seem too bad.

It's light, has a scope, is not affected by the HVB barrel weight so it can get two mods in one while taking a spare ammo mod.

It's better than the mattock.


Last time I looked at it on paper, it was staistically... FARRRR Worse.

true,raptor could be better, but its ok for a sliver gun. :?
wait?.....is THE Rokayt back? oh shi-:o

i sense moar awesome buff coming our way.:o

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ArcaptSSX wrote...

The Raptor barely compares to the Mattock: it does ~17% less damage per shot, for a measly 20% weight advantage. At such low damage without auto fire, the scope is actually a penalty to the gun (tunnel vision) compared to it.
If at least it was an automatic weapon it could be somehow interesting, but without a macro/auto-fire controller it's not.


Not to mention, its ROF is significantly worse then the Mattocks.


It was once, even in its old state, the third highest DPS gun (After the claymore at #1, and the Revenant at #2.)

The fact that it is still mediocre, requiring chain headshots to work well.... Demonstrates the power creep that has happened...


Really, my last proposed (or unposted prospective buff) was making it get the 3.0 headshot damage multiplier of similar lightweight guns have.

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AngryBobH wrote...

The raptor isn't bad. My brother scored a 175K game last night with a vanilla human infiltrator toting a raptor as his only weapon. Against collectors no less. There are weapons that need buffs far worse.


And I've been in a Gold game with a friend who scored 150k iwith a Turian Soldier using the Avenger V or VII. Obviously the Avenger is not a bad gun at all and is compelely functional.

The argument that other weapons needs a buff is just stupid. The fact that other weapons are weaker and need a buff does not change that fact that it's slightly more powerful brothers need a buff as well. It would help to stop thinking off buffing as a trading system. Because say, the Eagle, gets buffed it does not mean that another gun which needs a boost gets crossed off their "buff" list.

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Rokayt wrote...

ArcaptSSX wrote...

The Raptor barely compares to the Mattock: it does ~17% less damage per shot, for a measly 20% weight advantage. At such low damage without auto fire, the scope is actually a penalty to the gun (tunnel vision) compared to it.
If at least it was an automatic weapon it could be somehow interesting, but without a macro/auto-fire controller it's not.


Not to mention, its ROF is significantly worse then the Mattocks.


It was once, even in its old state, the third highest DPS gun (After the claymore at #1, and the Revenant at #2.)

The fact that it is still mediocre, requiring chain headshots to work well.... Demonstrates the power creep that has happened...


Really, my last proposed (or unposted prospective buff) was making it get the 3.0 headshot damage multiplier of similar lightweight guns have.

a 3.0? not to unresonable,
it the semi auto indra sniper , no wait its a weaker more ammo mattock assualt rifle,no wait its an over-sized Predator pistol!
im confused!:blink:

idk the best way i can decribe the raptor is this:
 
yeah, it would help it alot to get a headshot bonus.

Modifié par solidprice, 03 février 2013 - 09:15 .


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it should be a charge gun.