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[Blind2Society]

It needs more than 10-15%.

[Rokayt]

My buff, which would give it DPS to rival the similar mattock..... Was a good 35% buff.

Note. It was still Inferior DPS.
Just "Similar."

If just the damage buff was done it would still be worse due to the fire limiter being in place, rendering it incapable of being buffed by ROF bonuses.

Modifié par Rokayt, 05 septembre 2012 - 11:10 .

[stefbomb]

Blind2Society wrote...

It needs more than 10-15%.

Agreed, but would be a very "safe" change (i.e. no danger of making it OP) on BW's part.

[Rokayt]

stefbomb wrote...

Blind2Society wrote...

It needs more than 10-15%.

Agreed, but would be a very "safe" change (i.e. no danger of making it OP) on BW's part.

Well. The thing is, past tests have shown that similar weapons could take significantly larger changes and still not be strong enough.

Look at the mattock: 10% buff... Followed by 20% buff........

Yeah. I think 30% is the least we should start with on the Raptor.

[Blind2Society]

It's needs at least a 35% damage increase. Just like the Wraith needs a 35% RoF increase (and an extra round per clip).

[Rokayt]

Blind2Society wrote...

It's needs at least a 35% damage increase.

Do the math regarding my suggestion in the OP.

I belive the final numbers I went with was a 40% boost.

[Blind2Society]

40% works for me. I think ; )

We'll see if that's enough when it happens. I imagine it would be though.

[Rokayt]

Blind2Society wrote...

40% works for me. I think ; )

We'll see if that's enough when it happens. I imagine it would be though.

However, I am slightly concerned that this would give 911 DPS, on what very well could be the 9/11 balance changes.......

Probably me just overthinking things.

(For reference, the Mattock gets 970 DPS, and benifits from rate of fire bonuses. It also weighs less.)

Modifié par Rokayt, 05 septembre 2012 - 11:29 .

[DullahansXMark]

Rokayt that would... be kinda funny, but at the same time... not sure what to think >_>

We must form a Raptor Squadron.

[Blind2Society]

41% then?

[Rokayt]

Blind2Society wrote...

41% then?

Hmm..... Overpowered.

920 damage is 500 points away from 420 DPS.

[LadyAlekto]

Blind2Society wrote...

It's needs at least a 35% damage increase. Just like the Wraith needs a 35% RoF increase (and an extra round per clip).

Just the minrefiretime cut shorter or made equal to the pumping animation.....

[Blind2Society]

Rokayt wrote...

Blind2Society wrote...

41% then?

Hmm..... Overpowered.

920 damage is 500 points away from 420 DPS.

40 and a half %? I really don't like going down......

Alright, 39%?

[Rokayt]

Blind2Society wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Blind2Society wrote...

41% then?

Hmm..... Overpowered.

920 damage is 500 points away from 420 DPS.

Alright, 39%?

Underpowered.

900 is a flat number.

Flat numbers killed my Dolphin.

ShadedPhoenix wrote...

Blind2Society wrote...

It's needs at least a 35% damage increase. Just like the Wraith needs a 35% RoF increase (and an extra round per clip).

Just the minrefiretime cut shorter or made equal to the pumping animation.....

Personally, I would most likely boost its rof to 60 RPM if I buffed it at all. (A bullet every second is niiiiiceee.)
Its recoil would likely be enough to prevent overpoweredness from reeking its ugly head.

Modifié par Rokayt, 05 septembre 2012 - 11:37 .

[Blind2Society]

ShadedPhoenix wrote...

Blind2Society wrote...

It's needs at least a 35% damage increase. Just like the Wraith needs a 35% RoF increase (and an extra round per clip).

Just the minrefiretime cut shorter or made equal to the pumping animation.....

I was basing the wraith RoF buff percentage on using it with the destroyer. It was perfect and DM gives a 35% RoF bonus.

[Denali21]

When I first got the Raptor I was like "this is what Nemesis shoot me with, bull***t!"

[LadyAlekto]

YOu can boost the rof all day, its got a big minrefiretime and so boosting the rof will do nothing

[Rokayt]

ShadedPhoenix wrote...

YOu can boost the rof all day, its got a big minrefiretime and so boosting the rof will do nothing

For the Wraith? I thought we had derailed onto that.

The  WRAITH doesn't have a min fire time. I have read the INI.

Its the RAPTOR that is immune to ROF buffs.
Hence, Why I want to give it a DAMAGE buff.

Sorry. I should be a bit more clear as to what subject I am on when I derail.

Modifié par Rokayt, 05 septembre 2012 - 11:44 .

[MrScottBear]

I'd love for the Raptor to be good again. I loved that gun the moment I got it back in the day.

[Rokayt]

IT was my first ten guns Mr. Bear. I know how you feel.

[LadyAlekto]

Rokayt wrote...

ShadedPhoenix wrote...

YOu can boost the rof all day, its got a big minrefiretime and so boosting the rof will do nothing

For the Wraith? I thought we had derailed onto that.

The  WRAITH doesn't have a min fire time. I have read the INI.

Its the RAPTOR that is immune to ROF buffs.
Hence, Why I want to give it a DAMAGE buff.

Sorry. I should be a bit more clear as to what subject I am on when I derail.

My bad, i checked again to be sure, what shotgun did i remember had a minrefiretime...*puzzled bout her memory again*

[Rokayt]

ShadedPhoenix wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

ShadedPhoenix wrote...

YOu can boost the rof all day, its got a big minrefiretime and so boosting the rof will do nothing

For the Wraith? I thought we had derailed onto that.

The  WRAITH doesn't have a min fire time. I have read the INI.

Its the RAPTOR that is immune to ROF buffs.
Hence, Why I want to give it a DAMAGE buff.

Sorry. I should be a bit more clear as to what subject I am on when I derail.

My bad, i checked again to be sure, what shotgun did i remember had a minrefiretime...*puzzled bout her memory again*

I dont see a shotgun that has one.

[Emissary of the Collectors]

If they gave it ANY buff maybe then I wouldn't get kicked in the lobby for using it

[robarcool]

Let the garbage rot.

[Rokayt]

robarcool wrote...

Let the garbage rot.

The balance changes will continue! LET US DIRECT THEM AS WE SEE FIT.
(However. Negativity like that will likely be better support then the people posting "SURPART!" all over the thread.... Knowing BW.)

Modifié par Rokayt, 06 septembre 2012 - 12:13 .