I don't see why people make a big deal over the Destroy ending wiping out synthetics. Any synthetic can be replaced, there's nothing unique about any of them.
Synthetics can be replaced, there's nothing special about any of them. Why all the hubbub with Destroy ending?
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IllusiveManJr
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Posté 05 septembre 2012 - 06:28
Brovikk Rasputin
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People took Legion's "does this unit have a soul?" line a bit too literally.
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Posté 05 septembre 2012 - 06:30
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Exactly.
Since destroy didn't create a new dark age where all computers and machines cease to function, designs and software is all still there, stored on the manufactures servers somewhere.
Any factories that survived the war could start producing them, with safe guards in place.
Since destroy didn't create a new dark age where all computers and machines cease to function, designs and software is all still there, stored on the manufactures servers somewhere.
Any factories that survived the war could start producing them, with safe guards in place.
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Posté 05 septembre 2012 - 06:34
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same thing can be said for humans, albeit we are organic machines, we're not so special
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Posté 05 septembre 2012 - 06:36
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not if the Reapers Harvest us to extinctiondarkchief10 wrote...
same thing can be said for humans, albeit we are organic machines, we're not so special
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Posté 05 septembre 2012 - 06:36
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Pretty much every species can be replaced (cloning). It still doesn't make their extinction more pleasant.
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Posté 05 septembre 2012 - 06:37
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At least they feel no physical pain of being melted down
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Posté 05 septembre 2012 - 06:38
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Humans have their own personalities, and their own set of skills.darkchief10 wrote...
same thing can be said for humans, albeit we are organic machines, we're not so special
Machines can only do what they were made to do.
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Posté 05 septembre 2012 - 06:39
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the problem is that when you create new synthetics, the new synthetics don't believe the same thing as the old ones and could easily just pull another geth card or worse
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Posté 05 septembre 2012 - 06:39
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To be honest I thought the fact that destroy kills the geth makes it better.
We proved the catalyst wrong with the geth and EDI, but history has recorded events to support his claim. If you're confident that he's just plain wrong, and you have faith in synthetics as a "species," and not JUST the geth and EDI, pick destroy, start over, and test your luck.
Still not an ending fan, really, but that part of it,from an basic "here's a decision now choose" standpoint, I liked.
We proved the catalyst wrong with the geth and EDI, but history has recorded events to support his claim. If you're confident that he's just plain wrong, and you have faith in synthetics as a "species," and not JUST the geth and EDI, pick destroy, start over, and test your luck.
Still not an ending fan, really, but that part of it,from an basic "here's a decision now choose" standpoint, I liked.
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Posté 05 septembre 2012 - 06:40
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"does this unit have a soul" - Sigh, that line made me so sad... In me2 they did such a good job with the geth being completly alien and so very much not data(and they were completely fine not being a data, and were content with what they were).
I was very sad when they decided to humanize them.
I was very sad when they decided to humanize them.
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Posté 05 septembre 2012 - 06:40
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Which is why they shouldn't exist. Synthetics was a failed experiment.sporeian wrote...
the problem is that when you create new synthetics, the new synthetics don't believe the same thing as the old ones and could easily just pull another geth card or worse
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Posté 05 septembre 2012 - 06:41
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easier to replace a synthetic race then a organic one
but " committing genocide to prevent genocide only causes genocide" but even the geth would know that destroy is a logical decision. 1 race for 14 or so , that are known to us. they might not agree with the whole sacrificing geth but they would see it as logical. just like destroying the heretics albeit on a smaller scale , but still
but " committing genocide to prevent genocide only causes genocide" but even the geth would know that destroy is a logical decision. 1 race for 14 or so , that are known to us. they might not agree with the whole sacrificing geth but they would see it as logical. just like destroying the heretics albeit on a smaller scale , but still
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Posté 05 septembre 2012 - 06:43
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wouldn't that be 2 theres one other Synthetic race out there isn't thereghost9191 wrote...
easier to replace a synthetic race then a organic one
but " committing genocide to prevent genocide only causes genocide" but even the geth would know that destroy is a logical decision. 1 race for 14 or so , that are known to us. they might not agree with the whole sacrificing geth but they would see it as logical. just like destroying the heretics albeit on a smaller scale , but still
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Posté 05 septembre 2012 - 06:44
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Meltemph wrote...
"does this unit have a soul" - Sigh, that line made me so sad... In me2 they did such a good job with the geth being completly alien and so very much not data(and they were completely fine not being a data, and were content with what they were).
I was very sad when they decided to humanize them.
That line was from ME2.
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Posté 05 septembre 2012 - 06:45
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Deadlysyns wrote...
wouldn't that be 2 theres one other Synthetic race out there isn't thereghost9191 wrote...
easier to replace a synthetic race then a organic one
but " committing genocide to prevent genocide only causes genocide" but even the geth would know that destroy is a logical decision. 1 race for 14 or so , that are known to us. they might not agree with the whole sacrificing geth but they would see it as logical. just like destroying the heretics albeit on a smaller scale , but still
which?
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Posté 05 septembre 2012 - 06:45
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Humans have their own personalities, and their own set of
skills. Machines can only do what they were made to do.
It is open for interpretation, if the Geth are just machines, or not. If people went by Paragon scenario, their Shepard certainly doesn't consider them to be just machines. Renegade, in turn, does, but only 6% or so players have played it.
Of course no one would be happy if he or she is forced to kill someone which considers to be ''friend''.
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Posté 05 septembre 2012 - 06:47
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which?
Virtual Aliens? They basically live in a happy version of The Matrix.
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Posté 05 septembre 2012 - 06:48
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Sacrifice has always been a major theme in the ME games. The Virmire situation. Arrival. And now sacrificing the Geth, so all organic species can live. I really don't understand why everyone are so upset over this.
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Posté 05 septembre 2012 - 06:50
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Lord Goose wrote...
which?
Virtual Aliens? They basically live in a happy version of The Matrix.
but they aren't really considered synthetic life, or life at all
or something
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Posté 05 septembre 2012 - 06:51
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Brovikk Rasputin wrote...
Sacrifice has always been a major theme in the ME games. The Virmire situation. Arrival. And now sacrificing the Geth, so all organic species can live. I really don't understand why everyone are so upset over this.
as shepard says " Winning this war will have a high price, as it always does"
although the war had plenty of sacrifices already
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Posté 05 septembre 2012 - 06:58
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ghost9191 wrote...
Brovikk Rasputin wrote...
Sacrifice has always been a major theme in the ME games. The Virmire situation. Arrival. And now sacrificing the Geth, so all organic species can live. I really don't understand why everyone are so upset over this.
as shepard says " Winning this war will have a high price, as it always does"
although the war had plenty of sacrifices already
I would argue not enough, given the scale, but that's just me.
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Posté 05 septembre 2012 - 06:58
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Sacrifice has always been a major theme in the ME games.
The Virmire situation. Arrival. And now sacrificing the Geth,
so all organic species can live. I really don't understand why
everyone are so upset over this.
In this situation, sacrifice is forced by plot, and is beyound player's influence. And it is still possible to try to save as much as you can in both situations (say, warn the colonies in Arrival).
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Posté 05 septembre 2012 - 07:01
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chasemme wrote...
ghost9191 wrote...
Brovikk Rasputin wrote...
Sacrifice has always been a major theme in the ME games. The Virmire situation. Arrival. And now sacrificing the Geth, so all organic species can live. I really don't understand why everyone are so upset over this.
as shepard says " Winning this war will have a high price, as it always does"
although the war had plenty of sacrifices already
I would argue not enough, given the scale, but that's just me.
yeah but if you think about the worlds that were lost, species on the brink of extinction and such. Plus mordin, it adds up
but as said, it is forced . no way to try and save other then going control or that awful awful choice synthesis <_<
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Posté 05 septembre 2012 - 07:02
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On Virmire you have a choice: Kaidan or Ashley. No matter what, one of them dies.Lord Goose wrote...
Sacrifice has always been a major theme in the ME games.
The Virmire situation. Arrival. And now sacrificing the Geth,
so all organic species can live. I really don't understand why
everyone are so upset over this.
In this situation, sacrifice is forced by plot, and is beyound player's influence. And it is still possible to try to save as much as you can in both situations (say, warn the colonies in Arrival).
In Arrival you have a choice: Warn the colonies or don't. No matter what, you blow up an entire system.
Dyring the ending, you have a choice: Destroy, Control or Synthesis. In control, the Geth 'dies', in the other endings, they don't. You're not forced to pick either of them.
