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Operation VIGILANCE Weekend Operation September 7-9


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#276
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So will a "solo" or squad of one count for the squad goal?

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BiowareHeph wrote...

The last thing we need is an objective that DISCOURAGES consumable use. People need to be nudged to use them more often, not less.

A better objective would have been finish wave 10 with no OHKs or bleed outs. This would encourage people to use missiles to protect each other, revive each other, and use medigels intelligently. I.e. encouraging team play and smart consumable use, not discouraging it.

You're not wrong, and that's not a bad goal you suggested, either.

Either way, this mission has discouraged me and made me less likely to want to drop into MP this weekend, and I was actively looking forward to it.

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mak8tack wrote...

So will a "solo" or squad of one count for the squad goal?


Yes.

Chris Priestly wrote...

Babbylonian wrote...

Lime The Dragon wrote...

Alright, so.. once again, we must get clarification.

The
individual goal, since it's titled individual goal and not squad goal,
can we assume that ONLY YOU need to not use any consumables? Or does
anybody on the squad using a consumable ruin this goal for the current
game/match.

No.  It has apparently been renamed to "squad goal" and the need for the whole team to participate has already been confirmed.


Correct. The squad (whether 1, 2, 3 or 4 person squads) cannot use consumables.



I mean, cool concept and everything, but there is no way to know 100% if we completed the squad goal until the operation is over without soloing, since there isn't a "Mission Accomplished" or whatever for these things.

(How many months has it been since this thing came out? For crying out loud...)

It probably won't be an issue, since people are generally cool about working to complete the goal. But just to be safe, I too will just do a solo run on Bronze to be completely safe.

*sigh* Another operation that makes me want to bop its designer upside the head.

#279
4ut0b4hn5child27

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this is real Superhero challenge eh....

survive 10 wave without any single consumable?

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA (I'm not cocky in here)

ssigh...i hope it works well, my internet speed are bad....

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Well, looks like I am just going to solo a bronze run... I'm guessing that will be the easiest way to do it. Definitely an interesting goal though.

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Sounds interesting.

Squad goal looks ambiguous BTW; is it spoiled if someone else on my team uses a consumable?

#282
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No consumables also means no gear such as warp, cryo rounds etc? Also the squad objective is unclear, if someone in your group uses a medi gel, then it screws up for the rest of the team or is it just personal?

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born2beagator

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so to get the commendation pack, all I have to do is complete a match up to 10 without using any consumables? its not a team wide thing?

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Squad goal: Bronze and SIlver here I come. Maybe a Cerberus gold could go well without using consumable too.

#285
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 Going out of town for my anniversary. Win one for me guys

#286
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What I always missed in this game, something that really would make sense in a co-op game :
A small window showing some basic in-game stats of fellow coop players (consumables currently used/at disposal, current score, maybe -if possible- even their shield/health bar). I would greatly appreciate such information, as it would allow oneself to have a much better overview of what transpires on the map. The implementation shouldn't be too problematic, this information must be available somewhere. And actually it would make this operation Vigilence more transparent.

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It's something that we haven't had before, and yet... it's also weird. Squad Goal basically forces you to go into Bronze or Silver. And even then it's a risk with PUGs. 

BiowareHeph wrote...

The last thing we need is an objective that DISCOURAGES consumable use. People need to be nudged to use them more often, not less.

A better objective would have been finish wave 10 with no OHKs or bleed outs. This would encourage people to use missiles to protect each other, revive each other, and use medigels intelligently. I.e. encouraging team play and smart consumable use, not discouraging it.


Quoted for truth. 

Bob F It wrote...

Squad goal looks ambiguous BTW; is it spoiled if someone else on my team uses a consumable?

 

This seems to be the case. So the best method to ensure a commendation pack will be to do what others have already suggested - solo Bronze. 

Modifié par Aesandil, 05 septembre 2012 - 11:25 .


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snarf001 wrote...

No consumables also means no gear such as warp, cryo rounds etc? Also the squad objective is unclear, if someone in your group uses a medi gel, then it screws up for the rest of the team or is it just personal?

No, consumable meaning the things you use up in the middle of matches (rockets, etc.) not the one-time use items you pick before starting.

Strictly speaking, Gear isn't a consumable/one-time-use anyway.

Modifié par Fox-snipe, 05 septembre 2012 - 11:24 .


#289
Bob F It

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Looks like I'll need to pick up a solo class fast.

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Bob F It wrote...

Looks like I'll need to pick up a solo class fast.


Krogan Vanguard, firebase Glacier vs. Geth.

Easy win.

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Dorje Sylas

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"any difficulty without using a consumable"

Bronze solo here I come. Or even a 4 person bronze game can do this as long as everyone keeps thier hands away from those buttons/keys.

Not going to help much with allied goal. I don't have that much time this weekend.

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this needs to be clarified alot more. can you use ammo types? if someone in the lobby uses a rocket does it count or do you just need to not use any?

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I wonder if it's collectors who have caused these attacks...

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robertm2 wrote...

this needs to be clarified alot more. can you use ammo types? if someone in the lobby uses a rocket does it count or do you just need to not use any?


It's a squad goal, so it counts if someone uses consumable. I'm sure of it.

And you can use ammo powers.

#295
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Expecting to see plenty of infiltrators in the lobbies for the squad goal

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Arppis wrote...

I wonder if it's collectors who have caused these attacks...


I hope it was

#297
Aiiro

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Crap, this is going to be annoying to remember. :|

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Arppis wrote...

Bob F It wrote...

Looks like I'll need to pick up a solo class fast.


Krogan Vanguard, firebase Glacier vs. Geth.

Easy win.

Crap, I promoted vanguard for Alloy and I've been working The Games for the past week.:(

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Rifneno wrote...

Nitrocuban wrote...

Dis gonna be Troll Fest.
Just shootin rockitz 5s before extraction for the lulz und stuff


Yep.

Five seconds to extraction...
Douchebag [Missile Launcher] Swarmer


It's til wave 10, so I'm sure someone's going to use the Missile Launcher on the last opponent.

I'm sure anyone who doesn't have a close group of friends who communicate or can't solo will have problems meeting the Squad goal. The community goal looks doable, since it doesn't mention any limitation on consumables for that. Just 250,000 drone escort missions (hopefully without that glitch that makes the drone stop right before reaching the circle like it did to me on Rio last week) on any difficulty.

Modifié par Sinapus, 06 septembre 2012 - 12:17 .


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It'll be hard not to hit "6". I don't use gels that often. Always tryin for the !00% survival. (extra points!)