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Heimdall

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 Alright, it seems that multiplayer may be in Dragon Age 3.  Not a done deal, but it looks like a distinct possibility.  So, before all the wailing and gnashing of teeth, I'd like to ask what form of multiplayer you might find palatable.  Connection to the single player experience?  Story Relevence?  Co-op?  PVP?  Quests?  Wave based?  Whatever you like, I'd just like to know what forms of multiplayer the forumites think might work in a Dragon Age title.

Personally, I'm thinking Co-op in a separate story campaign specifically designed for a group of two or four that expands on, say, a battle that was alluded to but never portrayed in the single player campaign, possibly released episodically.

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Separate disk/download

Separate install

If I need to install it to play SP, it's not optional enough.

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Co-op, were a friend controls one of your companions in combat.

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Arius23

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If there is co-op i just hope they make a split-screen option. I'm sick of multiplayer games that I can't play with my friends while they are over.

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I'd like co-op and a separate story, but I wouldn't mind if there wasn't a story.

I would like equipment/monetary rewards that could be transferred to my single-player game.

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Arius23 wrote...

If there is co-op i just hope they make a split-screen option. I'm sick of multiplayer games that I can't play with my friends while they are over.

I've never really understood the movement to eliminate split screen...

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Baldur's Gate MP. =]

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none.
*rage*
ok ok I'll stop

if it has to be there I guess quest co-op? but can't promise I'd play it, I want epic SP RPGs please. ;)

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EA says they won't allow anymore single-player games, so multiplayer in DA3 is now pretty much a given. That said, if it is a co-op campaign mode or something like ME3 multiplayer, I would look forward to it.

ME3 multiplayer gave us a chance to finally play as something that was not human, so I am hoping that DA3 multiplayer would finally give us to play as non-human races again, like in DA:O. I would definitely like to play as a dwarf or especially a kossith, at any rate.

That said, I would *not* want to see a repeat of ME3's Galaxy At War mechanic. It was ill-conceived, to put it mildly.

Modifié par redneck nosferatu, 05 septembre 2012 - 11:45 .


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Just read an article that quotes Frank Gibeau as saying, "We are very proud of the way EA evolved with consumers. I have not green lit one game to be developed as a single player experience.
Today, all of our games include online applications and digital services that make them live 24/7/365."

DA3 will not be a single player only game. People can make claims as to how adding muliplayer or co-op will have no effect on the single player experience, but my experience tells me otherwise. I'm done with EA games in general, and Bioware in particular. I have an Origin account for sale with ME3 if anyone wants it.

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Lord Aesir wrote...

So let's say multiplayer is in....

 

Not buying the game.

Modifié par Welsh Inferno, 06 septembre 2012 - 12:02 .


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Welsh Inferno wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

So let's say multiplayer is in....

 

Not buying the game.

ChookAttack wrote...
Just read an article that quotes Frank Gibeau as saying, "We are very proud of the way EA evolved with consumers. I have not green lit one game to be developed as a single player experience.
Today, all of our games include online applications and digital services that make them live 24/7/365."

DA3 will not be a single player only game. People can make claims as to how adding muliplayer or co-op will have no effect on the single player experience, but my experience tells me otherwise. I'm done with EA games in general, and Bioware in particular. I have an Origin account for sale with ME3 if anyone wants it.

*Sigh* What did I say about the wailing and gnashing of teeth? <_<

Modifié par Lord Aesir, 06 septembre 2012 - 12:08 .


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Lord Aesir wrote...
*Sigh* What did I say about the wailing and gnashing of teeth? <_<


I didn't do either. BioWare & EA are a business, so they are free to take whatever direction they feel best. I won't be buying it though.

Modifié par Welsh Inferno, 06 septembre 2012 - 12:09 .


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Co-op PVE Flashpoints, with coop dialog and decision making.

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Welsh Inferno wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...
*Sigh* What did I say about the wailing and gnashing of teeth? <_<


I didn't do either. BioWare & EA are a business, so they are free to take whatever direction they feel best. I won't be buying it though.

Great, that wasn't the question I asked.  I asked about preferred multiplayer options, not how much people don't want them.

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Lord Aesir wrote...

Welsh Inferno wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

So let's say multiplayer is in....

 

Not buying the game.

ChookAttack wrote...
Just read an article that quotes Frank Gibeau as saying, "We are very proud of the way EA evolved with consumers. I have not green lit one game to be developed as a single player experience.
Today, all of our games include online applications and digital services that make them live 24/7/365."

DA3 will not be a single player only game. People can make claims as to how adding muliplayer or co-op will have no effect on the single player experience, but my experience tells me otherwise. I'm done with EA games in general, and Bioware in particular. I have an Origin account for sale with ME3 if anyone wants it.

*Sigh* What did I say about the wailing and gnashing of teeth? <_<


Really?  You took that as "wailing and gnashing of teeth"?  My, what a precious little one you are.

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Lord Aesir wrote...

Arius23 wrote...

If there is co-op i just hope they make a split-screen option. I'm sick of multiplayer games that I can't play with my friends while they are over.

I've never really understood the movement to eliminate split screen...


I guess so you and your friend need to buy 2 separate copies of the same game?  All of the best memories I have of growing up were having my friends over to play split screen multiplayer on Goldeneye and Mario Kart.

Thank god for Borderlands 2 coming out soon!

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NWN/BG style where I can completely ignore it.

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nightscrawl wrote...

NWN/BG style where I can completely ignore it.


Only if we're looking at a 50+ hour campaign without DLC.

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The day my WoW Guild got "Alone in the Darkness (25 Man)" after weeks of wipes is still engraved into my mind. As are the HC modes of the Lich King, Firelands, Dragon Soul, etc.. A guildie almost named his daughter Bethilac :P

I wish there was more of WoW kind / quality MP content online but there simply isn't.

Dragon Age combat is simply not good enough to make a challenging raid or instance that can hold the interest of 10 or 25 people to come week after week to beat it. And even if it did, where would I show off the gear, title and mounts that came with it ?

Making MP parts for games that aren't MMO is lame IMHO. There is no incentive, no competition. Make it Co-op if you must, this way a lot of us can invite our friends that don't play as well and take them adventuring. "Girfriend mode" the thing.

I'd love to take my little kids through parts of Thedas, and I'm sure a lot of BF or GF would like the opportunity ot get their loved one into DA. Co-op would be fun. MMO style MP would be pointless

Modifié par Renmiri1, 06 septembre 2012 - 12:53 .


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Renmiri1 wrote...

The day my WoW Guild got "Alone in the Darkness (25 Man)" after weeks of wipes is still engraved into my mind. As are the HC modes of the Lich King, Firelands, Dragon Soul, etc.. A guildie almost named his daughter Bethilac :P

I wish there was more of WoW kind / quality MP content online but there simply isn't.

Dragon Age combat is simply not good enough to make a challenging raid or instance that can hold the interest of 10 or 25 people to come week after week to beat it. And even if it did, where would I show off the gear, title and mounts that came with it ?

Making MP parts for games that aren't MMO is lame IMHO. There is no incentive, no competition. Make it Co-op if you must, this way a lot of us can invite our friends that don't play as well and take them adventuring. "Girfriend mode" the thing.

I'd love to take my little kids through parts of Thedas, and I'm sure a lot of BF or GF would like the opportunity ot get their loved one into DA. Co-op would be fun. MMO style MP would be pointless

What if it were based on SW:TOR Flashpoints?  Their style was sort of what I was thinking of for an episodic game style.

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If multiplayer has to be in (I would rather DA3 be SP only), I'd want it to be a separate co-op story, not another horde mode like in ME3.

Also, there must be an option to play with customizable bots in place of players for when I'm either offline or don't have enough friends online to join a lobby. Also, no RNG microtransaction system; I'd want a traditional store where I can buy what I want with in-game money only.

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As long as it has nothing at all to do with the single player game, I will tollerate it. If I am forced to play multiplayer, like I was in ME3, I won`t buy the game.

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The type of multiplayer I would like is co-op, where I can either give control of another player to one of my characters or they can import their own character in (assuming their Inquisitor characters is +/-5 levels from my own) and take up a companion slot.

I'd like to only allow this co-op in certain instances, such as large battles or places where the game is going to be combat heavy. You would queue up in a lobby to have people wanting to instance the same area, like you see in MMO's. Then you could co-op the area with people who are controlled by human AI, not computer AI (AI companions seem to have terrible abilities staying alive in DA2).

All that aside, I don't want any Arena or PvP multiplayer or anything that would involve anything outside of the single player game, because it just doesn't belong. I don't want to see any loot, quest, story, lore, XP, gold or ending bonuses to playing multi player for the single player campaign. None. If I read one review that smacks of ME3's hidden ending that required MP for months before they even acknowledged they did it (let alone fixed it), then it will be an instant no-buy. For both myself and many, many other players.


EDIT: To clarify the purpose of the instances - I've heard the complaint from MANY who played TOR that they loved the deep story and conversations, but felt pressured to skip them because they had others in their group who gave them grief for actually paying attention to "story" on other people's time. I want to keep it so I can visit and talk to any and every NPC after every quest if I so desire, without having to worry about the person/people I am co-oping with hassling me. Then I can just hop into a lobby when I'm about to fight the Archdemon or something.

Modifié par Fast Jimmy, 06 septembre 2012 - 08:38 .


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Lord Aesir wrote...
What if it were based on SW:TOR Flashpoints?  Their style was sort of what I was thinking of for an episodic game style.

Not familiar with those. My SWTOR Founder never got above level 5 :P

How do they work ?