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etm125 wrote...

Based on your manifest you haven't been playing long. This is not a bad thing. In fact its great! Everything is new!

After we get over the points are meaningless thing-- several points.
1) Multiplayer has been out for a long time. Most players have a ton of great gear now. It will be extremely difficult to compete pointwise. More imortantly you should focus on not being a hindrance to the team-- your goal should be helping with objectives and dying as little as possible.
2) The best weapon on your manifest is your hurricane 2 by a long shot.Give that to your Turian soldier,spec marksman and crank up the kills, Your other alternative at this point is to play a power based class such as adept or engi since they don't need rare/ultra rare weapons to kick ass.
3) Get out of Bronze.
4) If you want to see a nice score without rare gear: step 1: Pick human sentinel 2: hit target with warp 3: hit target with throw 4: watch explosions and kill feed 5: rinse, repeat.

This is some solid general advice, but I think some more is needed:

1. You will not be able to compete on points until you get good skills and a good set of the right R and UR items. Doing this requires you to get out of Bronze. Doing that requires good gear. More on that later.

2. Yes, your Hurricane is your best weapon by far, and you are pretty lucky to have it. It will work really well on both Turians (with some experience, it might even be a decent stand-in on your H.Engineer). Lookup some guides by the more 'leet' BSN'ers to see how to get the most out of both. With the Hurricane, they should at least let you cruise through Bronze and Silver w/o too much trouble.

3. Getting out of Bronze means getting better gear. Max out your C weapons + gear using Recruit Packs, then go straight to Silver and max out all your UC with Veteran Packs. Do this before going to Gold/Plat., or else you're going to waste a lot of very hard-earned SP/PSPs on trash items. Once your C/UC items are maxed, go to Gold and struggle a bit to farm up some decent R/URs, then you will be on your way. Luckily, that Hurricane II should help a lot.

4.  HSent. is great, even he needs a good R/UR pistol/shotgun to really shine on Gold/Plat.  IMO the easiest caster class to do on the cheap is the H.Eng - this class is all about CC anyway (Drone, Chain Overload), so doing big damage isn't important (unlike the H.Sent). All you really need for maximum effectiveness is some sort of automatic gun and either Disruptor or Incendiary Ammo and you'll be useful on any team on any difficulty. Another big bonus is that you won't feel as tempted to do risky things, b/c you will just be stun locking things all day, so you will be more survivable as well.

Modifié par Locutus_of_BORG, 06 septembre 2012 - 03:24 .


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etm125 wrote...

Based on your manifest you haven't been playing long. This is not a bad thing. In fact its great! Everything is new!

After we get over the points are meaningless thing-- several points.
1) Multiplayer has been out for a long time. Most players have a ton of great gear now. It will be extremely difficult to compete pointwise. More imortantly you should focus on not being a hindrance to the team-- your goal should be helping with objectives and dying as little as possible.
2) The best weapon on your manifest is your hurricane 2 by a long shot.Give that to your Turian soldier,spec marksman and crank up the kills, Your other alternative at this point is to play a power based class such as adept or engi since they don't need rare/ultra rare weapons to kick ass.
3) Get out of Bronze.
4) If you want to see a nice score without rare gear: step 1: Pick human sentinel 2: hit target with warp 3: hit target with throw 4: watch explosions and kill feed 5: rinse, repeat.


Thank you. This is excellent advice Image IPB I tried the hurricane and had issues with the recoil, but I'll try on my Turian Sentinel and see how it goes. Great advice about human sentinel too

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I don't usually play biotics but yes, explosions are very effective. I usually do weapon-oriented characters.

I'm on PS3, my ID is loli_sykes, if you would like I can play some rounds with you.

Bronze will be a piece of cake to you soon, trust me :)

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Cheers, I am in Australia so we may be awake at different times but I'll try and find your ID when I get home. Mine is manypixors, Many thanks! 

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If you're screwing around on Bronze, the Human Vanguard is a hell of a way to rack up Points. Get 200% cooldown, Charge, Nova, Charge, Nova, Charge, Nova, Shoot at anything that can insta-kill you. Charge, Nova, Charge. Finish match. Very, very simple.

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Disregard points, acquire revives! :D the medals and badges are kind of useless in my opinion especially since you stop getting them after you reach a certain number. It sounds to me like you focusing on objectives and such is much more valuable to the team. There are badges for certain number of headshots, kills, revives, and weapon/power specific medals. I wouldnt worry about your score after the game though.

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Locutus_of_BORG wrote...

This is some solid general advice, but I think some more is needed:

1. You will not be able to compete on points until you get good skills and a good set of the right R and UR items. Doing this requires you to get out of Bronze. Doing that requires good gear. More on that later.

2. Yes, your Hurricane is your best weapon by far, and you are pretty lucky to have it. It will work really well on both Turians (with some experience, it might even be a decent stand-in on your H.Engineer). Lookup some guides by the more 'leet' BSN'ers to see how to get the most out of both. With the Hurricane, they should at least let you cruise through Bronze and Silver w/o too much trouble.

3. Getting out of Bronze means getting better gear. Max out your C weapons + gear using Recruit Packs, then go straight to Silver and max out all your UC with Veteran Packs. Do this before going to Gold/Plat., or else you're going to waste a lot of very hard-earned SP/PSPs on trash items. Once your C/UC items are maxed, go to Gold and struggle a bit to farm up some decent R/URs, then you will be on your way. Luckily, that Hurricane II should help a lot.

4.  HSent. is great, even he needs a good R/UR pistol/shotgun to really shine on Gold/Plat.  IMO the easiest caster class to do on the cheap is the H.Eng - this class is all about CC anyway (Drone, Chain Overload), so doing big damage isn't important (unlike the H.Sent). All you really need for maximum effectiveness is some sort of automatic gun and either Disruptor or Incendiary Ammo and you'll be useful on any team on any difficulty. Another big bonus is that you won't feel as tempted to do risky things, b/c you will just be stun locking things all day, so you will be more survivable as well.


Thank you. That's pretty much what I needed, some kind of plan or strategy or something. I tried the hurricane and was put off by the recoil but I'll give it another go on my turians.
These are also really great tips for persevering with my engineers, I really have a lot of fun playing them Image IPB

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tntk252 wrote...

If you're screwing around on Bronze, the Human Vanguard is a hell of a way to rack up Points. Get 200% cooldown, Charge, Nova, Charge, Nova, Charge, Nova, Shoot at anything that can insta-kill you. Charge, Nova, Charge. Finish match. Very, very simple.


I've been avoiding the vanguard cos of everything I've been reading about the 'vanguard glitch'!

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Everyone likes to say that points don't matter...which is a nice sentiment.

But quite frankly, being 4th on the board every single game does get old. You don't feel like you're contributing. It's a completely natural feeling. Just don't get obsessed with score. It is only an average metric, at best, to judge whether or not you are improving.

There's a fair amount of good advice spread around here. I second the vote to get out of Bronze. Any player who has been around for awhile will run circles around new players on Bronze, to the point that it can actually be difficult for people not familiar with maps to find things to kill in the early waves. Silver may be more difficult, but it's better training, and you'll have more to do.

Here's an easy way to top the scoreboard once in awhile though. See a lobby full of adepts? Switch to the Drell Adept. Reave everything in sight. Reave something every single time you can. Chuck cluster grenades when you've reaved a group. This will also help you learn to play more aggressively, as you tend to have to be a little aggressive to keep Drell alive (as backwards as that seems).

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apparently you are supposed to run full speed to the enemy spawns and oncoming fire as fast as you can, to kill stuff as soon as it spawns, or you are a camping scrub ruining this game.. no matter how many missions you win or how smooth your games go.
ive adapted.. i dont get frustrated anymore.
you guys wanna run around like fools on platinum? fine.... i guess i will too...

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 06 septembre 2012 - 05:51 .


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reaperteck wrote...

tntk252 wrote...

If you're screwing around on Bronze, the Human Vanguard is a hell of a way to rack up Points. Get 200% cooldown, Charge, Nova, Charge, Nova, Charge, Nova, Shoot at anything that can insta-kill you. Charge, Nova, Charge. Finish match. Very, very simple.


I've been avoiding the vanguard cos of everything I've been reading about the 'vanguard glitch'!


Vanguard glitch is a problem. If you host though, You're free to annihilate everything with vanguards.

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reaperteck wrote...

During the rounds, I always feel like I’m making a difference. I kill some badguys, stick close to the drone, pick up the datapackets and extract at the end. But most of the time I’m 4th in points, usually getting somewhere between 25,000 and 40,000.
 
How do you get lots of points? Everyone usually has more of the badges than me, is that the main thing – to focus on the badges? If so, is there a list of them somewhere with how many points they’re worth? Or is it basically bodycount, just focus on that? And if so, focus on the bosses, or focus on crowd control? Or is it something else?
 I KNOW points is not the be all and end all, just starting to feel like I’m letting my side down a bit. I only play bronze, and at this rate I’ll never be ready to try silver


kill more and kill faster is the short answer

rocketing spawns is some ways people rack up poits. using a cheap character like a demolisher and spamming grenades into groups. area attacks wtc

demolisher, fury, and GI are the 3 biggest scorers probably. but remember score isn't everything

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A lot of good advice in here. One more thing to keep in mind besides the higher level weapons and classes other people have that you might not have is this. Most of the people you are playing with have likely been playing longer than you have. They typically know the ins and outs of each map as far as spawn points and such goes.

I see this a lot when I play bronze to level characters or just to play with new players every now and then. Experienced players tend to get to the right places at the beginnings of waves and as a result get more kills. That will come to you the more you play.

Playing power classes like the Adepts and Human Sentinal will help you some since you won't rely so much on guns, but at the same time it can be hard to set off explosions because a lot of people instantly shoot the thing you just hit with Warp.

Your manifest says you have a Demolisher. if you want to kill a lot of stuff, level that class up, max out on the arc grenades, and you can basically bomb everything into paste. You also don't have to worry about cooldowns much with that class, so you can use your Claymore. With the Smart Choke on it, once you get used to it, you can snipe a lot of things in one shot even from a long distance.

But I wouldn't worry too much about points. 25-40K is pretty good for a low level setup on bronze, especially with all the people running around Bronze with Harriers and such now. If you're scoring that well, while handicapped in experience, weapons level, and characters, you should have no problem seeing that rise very quickly once you unlock some stuff and get more familiar with the maps. If you're helping with objective rounds, doing revives, and all that, then you are making a difference, and that counts for a lot.

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Most Gold matches I easily walk away with 300K total exp by sticking to a few simple rules...
1. see enemy? shoot/power the hell out of it.
2. cover, cover, cover,
3. if you're not shooting, you're reloading
4. if you go down a long way from teammates, and surrounded by enemies, just save them the trouble and medi-gel yourself
5. (Depending on class) you should always use powers, never just let them sit there.
6. another biotic/tech character on your squad? set up tech/biotic bursts.
7. don't be a hero. if somebody goes down stop and think whether you'll just get downed trying to save them.

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BjornDaDwarf wrote...

Here's an easy way to top the scoreboard once in awhile though. See a lobby full of adepts? Switch to the Drell Adept. Reave everything in sight. Reave something every single time you can. Chuck cluster grenades when you've reaved a group. This will also help you learn to play more aggressively, as you tend to have to be a little aggressive to keep Drell alive (as backwards as that seems).


This is excellent. I have Drell Adept, will try it. Thank you Image IPB

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darkpassenger2342 wrote...

apparently you are supposed to run full speed to the enemy spawns and oncoming fire as fast as you can, to kill stuff as soon as it spawns, or you are a camping scrub ruining this game.. no matter how many missions you win or how smooth your games go.
ive adapted.. i dont get frustrated anymore.
you guys wanna run around like fools on platinum? fine.... i guess i will too...


lol, this. My first reaction is to get dug in and let the bad guys walk towards me. Everyone runs up there though. It's not really a complaint because they're doing really well, it's just not my first instinct

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It doesn't sound like your doing anything wrong, really. You may just be getting drowned out by people with better gear. Add me, if you like. PSN ID: NovaRayne

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reaperteck wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

apparently you are supposed to run full speed to the enemy spawns and oncoming fire as fast as you can, to kill stuff as soon as it spawns, or you are a camping scrub ruining this game.. no matter how many missions you win or how smooth your games go.
ive adapted.. i dont get frustrated anymore.
you guys wanna run around like fools on platinum? fine.... i guess i will too...


lol, this. My first reaction is to get dug in and let the bad guys walk towards me. Everyone runs up there though. It's not really a complaint because they're doing really well, it's just not my first instinct


 exactly, thats why after weeks of getting aggravated, i just realized it wasnt doing me any good and learned how to do it myself. This playstyle has become the "way to play," it was either get used to it or stop playing.
These forums are where i noticed it the most.  no one ever said it to me personally, in game or here, but ill read all these threads with people complaining about "campers" and im thinking, " hey, im not a camper, i just dont run to the spawns!"
"wait, maybe i am, idk i just thought i was playing the game the way it was intended based on the sp aspect, i guess i can give it a shot"
the light cover tactics actually work great, and i feel confident "running and gunning" and "carrying" people that won't in every match now.. Gold an platinum i mean, silver its a given.
 if the other 3 people in a random match dont run off at wave 1 start, ill stay where we go, i dont want to be the one guy who pisses the rest off.

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Your manifest says you have a Demolisher. if you want to kill a lot of stuff, level that class up, max out on the arc grenades, and you can basically bomb everything into paste. You also don't have to worry about cooldowns much with that class, so you can use your Claymore. With the Smart Choke on it, once you get used to it, you can snipe a lot of things in one shot even from a long distance.

But I wouldn't worry too much about points. 25-40K is pretty good for a low level setup on bronze, especially with all the people running around Bronze with Harriers and such now. If you're scoring that well, while handicapped in experience, weapons level, and characters, you should have no problem seeing that rise very quickly once you unlock some stuff and get more familiar with the maps. If you're helping with objective rounds, doing revives, and all that, then you are making a difference, and that counts for a lot.


The highest score I've ever had (which was like 45,000) came from my demolisher. She is awesome Image IPB

Thank you, that is really good to hear. I have an N7 rating now of about 120 and am starting to encounter players with N7 rating lower than me who bag double my points. I'm genuinely not great at ME3, but that's cool with me so long as I continue to improve and continue backing up my squad

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Nova Rayne wrote...

It doesn't sound like your doing anything wrong, really. You may just be getting drowned out by people with better gear. Add me, if you like. PSN ID: NovaRayne


I will, cheers Image IPB As I mentioned though, Australian so I don't know if we'll be awake at similar times but I'll add you. I'm manypixors

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btw speaking of hurricane it is light (meaning fast skill cooldowns) and I frequently use it for my caster chars. It gets very stable with recoil mod and shooting from cover. So with char like HSent you stay in cover, cast warp, shoot your hurricane and finish off with throw for bio explosion. On bronze/silver you might not even get to the throw part

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Don't worry about the score soo much...ask yourself.
How many times do you go down? how many times have you saved a teamate? Do you hide in a corner the whole game or are you out there dealing damage?

Points don't mean a whole lot after a certain point...

But it the "leader" has 100K+ and you have less than 60K...either you're out of your league...or you're leaching. (Even if not intentionally)

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You don't have the manifest for weapon-oriented builds. A lot of it is also that you don't have the manifest to compete just yet. No shame in that, you just need to buy stuff until you have better weapons and gear to use. Maybe do veteran packs for a bit, actually, to get some more weapon mods and characters. You can probably bump if up to silver, if you want. Played with some newer folks earlier tonight on silver, and we did well enough to bump it up to gold after a while. Seeing someone do alright when they've had the game for two weeks and are using a Disciple was actually kind of nice.

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Get more points by killing more stuff. Since the number of mobs is (more or less) fixed this also means preventing your team mates from killing mobs. Some tips and tricks:

1. After a biotic charge always go around a corner so your team cannot snipe the mobs around you.
2. If you can create a flank on one of your team mates by using TC and running off: Do it!
3. Dont revive, they cant steal your kills if they are dead.
4. If you have the good fortune of seeing a full spawn happening: Rocket it, regardless of wave number.
5. If you find yourself alone take plently of time to finish the wave, if it is an objective wave dont complete the last objective just keep killing. Do this while singing in your mic, really loudly.
6. Start a public game alone. Your team cant steal your kills very well when they dont have any equippment on.
7. If someone is comming to ress you try to time your medigel so you waste a maximum amount of his time without granting him a revive.
8. Use a class that shakes the screen for your team.
9. When you get a pizza delivery take the pizza and kite around until your team is down, then procees to 5.

Good luck! Have fun!

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 There is so much excellent advice in this topic! My two cents on the issue are:

1. As everyone says, don't care about score. I get it, it just doesn't feel good to be the last one, but someone has to be. If you take 4 excellent players of averagely the same skill, someone of them will be fourth in the score of course. Does this mean he's bad? Nah... Plus, you're fairly new (though you have the Hurricane II, for which I am insanely jealous, I think my colleagues are seeing me slowly turn green here xD).


2. For me, the most most most important thing is to find the class you feel comfortable with. I, for example, do not feel well with the demolisher, even though she's a very powerful class. I am not bad with it, but it's very rare that I get first place with her. Having played the 3 Mass Effect games with Vanguards, I feel best with them, even though except for the Krogan Battlemaster they get a lot of hate. And don't worry about the "vanguard glitch", it's highly unlikely you'll glitch out much except for the Human vanguard. And that is easy to resolve - just host your own game so that you don't get lag from the host. But yeah, I feel best with Vanguards (especially the Asari one, even though she is far from the "strongest" classes in the game), the Shadow and the Asari Justicar. So find which character you like best through trial and error, and just run with them!

3. I quite like what the others have said about upping to Silver. What I found hard in Bronze when I started out was that often, there were few things to kill left for me because everyone runs around like a chicken without a head and shoots madly at stuff without worrying about dying, health, etc. (because they can in bronze). Combined with the fact that I was unaware of the spawn points on the maps that meant very few enemies left for me. If you want, someone had a link to a great topic with the spawn points on all maps, or you can just learn/find them as you play. I chose the second, because it was more fun this way (but because of that, I still don't know where the spawn points on Reactor are :P ). So go Silver! Yesterday I had a match with two N7 level 40-50, which certainly meant they were very new (N7 is meaningful till 120) and they did not slow the game down. No one's gonna kick you from Silver (except if they are a giant douche, but nothing can be done on that matter xD). Silver (and later, when you feel ready - Gold) require more teamplay (ha, teamplay on bronze!), and you'll get better habits from them. In bronze, you feel more or less invincible, so you develop some horrible habits!


So good luck, and just have fun. Try hard not to think about points DURING the match, because that's one recipe for disaster - biggest distraction ever. :whistle: You'll lose kills while you are thinking/looking at the board. And be a good team player - I, personally, don't care at all what one's score is at the end of the match if they were a good sport/did the objectives/revived people. But I have a new policy towards annoying lone gunmen - I don't revive them and lure banshees to their corpses just as they medigel. :devil:

Modifié par kaileena_sands, 06 septembre 2012 - 11:30 .


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Don't worry about that reaperteck. I rather have someone like you on the team that helps with the objectives and revives people when they're down than someone running around on his/her own trying to get the most points. Selfish players who try to top the scoreboard can get the whole team killed.