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As a reaction to all the Shadow threads lately I decided to design a build that would showcase her as something much more than a SS-hopping medic or a wallbang slashtard. 

I came from a duration cloak myself and that build works perfectly fine if you have the descency to equip a proper gun. Meaning, something that can deal with armor. 

The reality however is that Shadows have a bad reputation for being largely useless. They clock in dead last on the scoreboard, provide little dps against tougher enemies and spend most of the game in cloak SS-ing Marauders and Cannibals. 

The Video:
http://www.youtube.c...?v=Ev6Md6_3eeo 

The Build:
http://narida.pytalh...9@0BERON4O4@0@0
Some points are left over from my build. I don't care about any of the remaining power evolutions. For me the build is complete as it is.

The 3-shot combo:
It is simple, three enemies in sight, cloak, shoot closest enemy, immediately SS another, as you come out of cloak you shoot the third. SS reloads your Claymore during the port animation and it's ready to shoot the second you come out of cloak. One combo can be finished in 3-4 seconds. One 3-shot combo is enough to down any non boss type enemy in the game.  This includes Brutes, Pyros and Phantoms.

Shadowstriking Boss enemies:
Gold Banshees: Two to three Claymore shots takes down her barier, this will render her stationary and you can start the 3-shot combo. Once her Barrier is down one combo might do the job if you can land good Claymore shots on her skinny body. More likely though you will need a melee or another cloak cycle. Soloing Banshees is something you rarely want to do, but if you're clutching the Calymore makes this rather trivial. If someone else is holding her aggro it is safe to SS her when she is moving away from you. I've never been grabbed doing this. There are in fact many situations where it's perfectly safe to ss/melee her, you just have to get the feel for it. 

Gold Atlas: Three Combos will do the job. It is easy to solo Atlases in the open as they need to turn around every time you SS-into position.

Some highlights:
0:22 Gold Brute is a joke
1:00 Soloing Gold Atlas in the open
3:21 Gold Atlas with 2 bars of shields dead in 1 cloak + light melee


Try the build if you find it interesting. And feel free to question any of my evolution choices, I am open for further optimization.


tl;dr: 
This Shadow can kill a Brute in one cloak cycle, thats 3-4 seconds. The 3-shot combo can potentially take down 3 Marauders in in one cycle meaning 3-4 seconds. Shadowstrike everything including Banshees, Atlases and Brutes. An Atlas can be soloed in the open in about 15 seconds (less if you spec further SS-damage). This Shadow will crush the generic duration build in shear damage output and kill-speed.

Modifié par synapsefire, 12 septembre 2012 - 03:37 .


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Pichsterz

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Great build. I didn't know you can reload while in SS mode.

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HorriblePlajer

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Whats the music in video? Shazaam can't tag it. :<

And about build - looks outstanding, gonna try it soonish.

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The music is "Celldweller - I Can't Wait (Metal Remix by Jay Ray)". I'll add it to the youtube description too. Shazaam won't tag it because it is a remix submitted to a remix contest for the song. It didn't win, go figure.

Modifié par synapsefire, 06 septembre 2012 - 08:03 .


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BjornDaDwarf

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I also did not know that a reload would finish during the SS animation. Handy information even if not using this exact build.

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A shotgun build, yawn.

The class isn't useless just the majority of people that use it.

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Pancakes71

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That is truly awesome.

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Wallbanging Slashtard should be trademarked.

Since it's not I'm going to relish using that from this day forward.

Thing is that most spec for duration over damage on TC.  That extra damage bonus does a ton for Shadow Strike.

I respecced mine 6 (Damage/Melee/Sniper), 4 (Damage), 6, 5 (Power Evolutions), 5 (melee evolutions) and she hits like a damned truck.

I'll generally run her with a Mantis and ULM Talon with Stunner

Peel the shield from afar, finish with Shadow Strike (which on Gold is removing 3-4 bars of armor with Consumables).  I recommend trying this with her.  Shadow Strike hits really hard in this setup.  And if you can get behind a group of targets, forget about it. 

Modifié par Pedactor, 06 septembre 2012 - 08:36 .


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synapsefire

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@Pedactor Yea, thats an interesting setup. I wouldn't put a sniper on her myself but the Mantis can potentially achieve the same combo with SS-reload as it is a single shot gun.

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I am gonna try this build. Currently using the Talon for CD purposes.

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Alijah Green

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 here I OP your build for you op

http://narida.pytalh...9@0BERON4O4@0@0 

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Rhuakah

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I don't have a Shadow to play with yet, so excuse my ignorance, but how are you able to move from decloak immediately into Shadow Strike? Surely there must be some cooldown?

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Alijah Green wrote...

 here I OP your build for you op

http://narida.pytalh...9@0BERON4O4@0@0 

Ha ha, I actually think that's the way I have Claymore set up in the video. It is how I prefer it yes.

Edit: damage and capacity is not optimal though.

Modifié par synapsefire, 06 septembre 2012 - 09:02 .


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Alijah Green

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nice video edit by the way

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Reloading during SS?
Now THIS is intresting...

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HorriblePlajer

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I just tested it on my shadow and the claymore did not reload in SS. Cloak, shoot, SS and I am with empty claymore, whatever I do hit X in SS or not. Do you have to press the fire and SS in the same time or something?

fwiw I was on xbox360 and I have claymore III.

Modifié par HorriblePlajer, 06 septembre 2012 - 09:14 .


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Alijah Green wrote...

nice video edit by the way

Thanks, 
I think people would find commentaries to be more useful, I'm just having too much fun with montages. I hope the highlight links and thread information mitgates some of the loss of a proper commentary.


Rhuakah wrote...

I don't have a Shadow to play with yet, so excuse my ignorance, but how are you able to move from decloak immediately into Shadow Strike? Surely there must be some cooldown?

HorriblePlajer wrote...

I just tested it on my shadow and the claymore did not reload in SS. Cloak, shoot, SS and I am with empty claymore. Do you have to press the fire and SS in the same time or something?

fwiw I was on xbox360 and I have claymore III.

There is a window of about 1-2 sec. after decloaking where you can use a power for free. I think it's a matter of timing Plajer. Do some more testing and let me know if it doesn't work itself out.

Modifié par synapsefire, 06 septembre 2012 - 09:22 .


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HorriblePlajer

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Oh you left 12 points out, I choosen bonus power, should I respec and not take the 6 evo at all to get it to work?

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hmm very interesting. I've never really tried out the Shadow for the very reasons you specified. Will try it out later.

Oh and I remember people saying that the rank 6 of sword mastery was bugged. How so?

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HorriblePlajer wrote...

Oh you left 12 points out, I choosen bonus power, should I respec and not take the 6 evo at all to get it to work?

Bonus power might mess it up yes. It was an annoyance to me to have it and I highly recommend you spec out of it for this build. If you want to put the points in I would recommend armor damage in Fitness 6 evo.

cgtrfghj7 wrote...

hmm very interesting. I've never really tried out the Shadow for the very reasons you specified. Will try it out later.

Oh and I remember people saying that the rank 6 of sword mastery was bugged. How so?

It only affects regular melee not SS damage.

Modifié par synapsefire, 06 septembre 2012 - 09:26 .


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Blackest_Knight

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No UT/DN sounds? :P

This video is a bit less informational than others but it is nice in terms of art style!

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Interesting build and thread, thanks for.putting it together.

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I would like to know how it turns out when you finish that build. I see you were smart enough to have short cloak mixed with the damage protection on shadow strike. If you decide not to use the B button at all, you can leave out rank 6 on sword mastery and give electric slash 3 points. It is nice to have when you wants to knock down multiple red bars in front of you. As far as your N7 Shadow tree, there is NEVER a reason to use weapon damage. You are sacrificing a ton of damage to your shadow strike, and leaving you out of cloak for too long. Rank 4 and 6 will keep you alive and add a lot of damage to shadow strike. Also, you should give the Piranha a try. It is nearly the same as the Claymore, but with much higher damage per second, and it is very very light. I am at +190 when I use it. Another option is the Reegar Carbine, which will dish out the highest damage per second in the game to ALL sources while it has the shredder and a blade. These slight modifications will make you a very happy person, and build directly into your tactics.

http://narida.pytalh...9@0BERFL4M4@0@0
6 points left over so you can decide on the last bit. I suggest Sword Mastery, because with the electic sword, you can kill a phantom in one heavy melee, or you can use the armor attack to help add another attack to your combo on bosses.

Modifié par Shnibadabobin, 06 septembre 2012 - 10:03 .


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Pichsterz wrote...

Great build. I didn't know you can reload while in SS mode.

Yeah, SS works like BC in that regard.  I'm on Xbox, and I believe you have to hold down the fire button and SS right after shooting.

OT: Epically beautiful.  I never thought to use the Claymore like that, though I do it with BC.  Since I love the Claymore, it's especially nice to find this.  Thanks, OP!

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@Shnibadabobin

I don't think you grasped the nuances of this build at all but more importantly you've got A LOT of stuff wrong in your post.. I can't be bothered addressing all of it but anyone who knows how to use cloak will always have a 3 second cool down regardless of weight.

Edit: btw the build is finished but I will probably add Armor Damage in the Fitness tree to mine. I will not edit the narida link as I think the rest of the points are a matter of preference although bonus power in cloak will mess the build up for anyone who want to try it.

Modifié par synapsefire, 06 septembre 2012 - 10:23 .