Modifié par tetsutsuru, 06 septembre 2012 - 10:22 .
Jack Crapper wrote...
Yeah, SS works like BC in that regard. I'm on Xbox, and I believe you have to hold down the fire button and SS right after shooting.Pichsterz wrote...
Great build. I didn't know you can reload while in SS mode.
OT: Epically beautiful. I never thought to use the Claymore like that, though I do it with BC. Since I love the Claymore, it's especially nice to find this. Thanks, OP!
Oh lord, I think this is news for me too.. I play my drellguard from time to time and I can't remember ever exploiting this with him. Thanks JC:D.BuckshotSamurai wrote...
Jack Crapper wrote...
Yeah, SS works like BC in that regard. I'm on Xbox, and I believe you have to hold down the fire button and SS right after shooting.Pichsterz wrote...
Great build. I didn't know you can reload while in SS mode.
OT: Epically beautiful. I never thought to use the Claymore like that, though I do it with BC. Since I love the Claymore, it's especially nice to find this. Thanks, OP!
Wait, you can reload during Biotic Charge? I've never heard this, anywhere.
Modifié par synapsefire, 06 septembre 2012 - 11:00 .
Modifié par Assumedkilla, 06 septembre 2012 - 11:02 .
The only thing I said I'd SS twice was a phantom and after the second SS she's dead. That would most likely be quicker and safer than trying to shoot her, since she doesn't know I'm there and most people probably couldn't hit a flipping phantom 100% with their first two claymore shots. If someone is looking for max damage with a claymore why not just use a GI? Their DPS would be higher.The Rainbow Reaper wrote...
^the whole point of the build is to use the claymore along with damage cloak to pump out as much damage as possible. I'm fairly sure 2 claymore shots and a ss in 3 seconds is more efficient than 2 ss in the same time span.
Modifié par Assumedkilla, 06 septembre 2012 - 11:16 .
synapsefire wrote...
@Shnibadabobin
I don't think you grasped the nuances of this build at all but more importantly you've got A LOT of stuff wrong in your post.. I can't be bothered addressing all of it but anyone who knows how to use cloak will always have a 3 second cool down regardless of weight.
Edit: btw the build is finished but I will probably add Armor Damage in the Fitness tree to mine. I will not edit the narida link as I think the rest of the points are a matter of preference although bonus power in cloak will mess the build up for anyone who want to try it.
Modifié par Shnibadabobin, 06 septembre 2012 - 11:21 .
najzere wrote...
I haven't seen any threads saying the Shadow isn't anything but awesome, but this is a pretty sweet build regardless. I haven't respec'd her since the promote weekend, so maybe I'll give this a shot, although I'm not that great with the Claymore. Thanks for another cool video!
Modifié par Ravenmyste, 06 septembre 2012 - 11:25 .
I fully agree. A good infiltrator isn't only one of the best killers, but is also the medic and objective getter of the team, but I don't really see that happening with this build. You might as well be a GI with a GPS or Claymore since that's a higher DPS.If you decloak while you are heavy, it WILL take a long time to recharge, which makes doing objectives more difficult. Perhaps I did word that wrong, but everything else in my post is a proven fact. The Claymore might have more damage per shot, but the Piranha does far greater damage over time to all sources. Reegar carbine has the highest damage per second in the game, and even more so to shields. When the Reegar Carbine has the Shredder Mod equipped, it is one of the few guns that can hit over 1k dps to armor. The Piranha may not build very well into your 3 shot combo, but the Reegar carbine does. And when you have a weak Shadows Strike and a low recharge time because of it, you cannot pull off the double Shadow Strike that everybody else can do because they know how to keep themselves from beeing heavy without sacrificing gonpower.
Assumedkilla wrote...
The only thing I said I'd SS twice was a phantom and after the second SS she's dead. That would most likely be quicker and safer than trying to shoot her, since she doesn't know I'm there and most people probably couldn't hit a flipping phantom 100% with their first two claymore shots. If someone is looking for max damage with a claymore why not just use a GI? Their DPS would be higher.The Rainbow Reaper wrote...
^the whole point of the build is to use the claymore along with damage cloak to pump out as much damage as possible. I'm fairly sure 2 claymore shots and a ss in 3 seconds is more efficient than 2 ss in the same time span.
Yeah, I've gone damage twice before in SS, but I prefer going drain since it's saved my life so many times. Doing a SS again to a phantom only takes a sec or two and it's safe since I'm still cloaked the whole time, so they're not attacking.ryoldschool wrote...
Assumedkilla wrote...
The only thing I said I'd SS twice was a phantom and after the second SS she's dead. That would most likely be quicker and safer than trying to shoot her, since she doesn't know I'm there and most people probably couldn't hit a flipping phantom 100% with their first two claymore shots. If someone is looking for max damage with a claymore why not just use a GI? Their DPS would be higher.The Rainbow Reaper wrote...
^the whole point of the build is to use the claymore along with damage cloak to pump out as much damage as possible. I'm fairly sure 2 claymore shots and a ss in 3 seconds is more efficient than 2 ss in the same time span.
With the build from Micah3sixty you can one-hit kill phantoms on gold only with one SS ( cooldown 2.54 with Piranha or Wraith ). I am wondering what the cooldown on cloak is with the claymore X - the build says 4.85 seconds.
Smart Choke does nothing to the Crusader, and the Spare Clip mod adds more ammo to the reserve, not in the clip itself. It always has 4 shots. The shredder mod also hardly does anything, bringing my Crusader IV from 545 damage to armor (silver) to 565. Amazing gun, but not in this situation. Try that on a Destroyer, since he actually DOES bring up the clip size.Ravenmyste wrote...
najzere wrote...
I haven't seen any threads saying the Shadow isn't anything but awesome, but this is a pretty sweet build regardless. I haven't respec'd her since the promote weekend, so maybe I'll give this a shot, although I'm not that great with the Claymore. Thanks for another cool video!
if you have the crusader use it!
my shadow uses it and it really does a number on them mooks and bosses my claymore is IX and has less accuracy but does alot more damage i will give you that, but if you use crusader{mines is up to II} with fully accuracy and damage mods it really out preforms and you can also switch the accuracy mod for a bigger clip mod and get 4 shots compared to the clyamore where you only get one shot
It works with any power with sufficiently long animation. Empty your clip, use a power before the auto reload starts, weapon reloads during the power. It should technically work with any power, as long as the auto reload starts during the power's animation. It's just more noticeable with powers with long animations, as you're less likely to cancel the reload by doing something else.BuckshotSamurai wrote...
Jack Crapper wrote...
Yeah, SS works like BC in that regard. I'm on Xbox, and I believe you have to hold down the fire button and SS right after shooting.Pichsterz wrote...
Great build. I didn't know you can reload while in SS mode.
OT: Epically beautiful. I never thought to use the Claymore like that, though I do it with BC. Since I love the Claymore, it's especially nice to find this. Thanks, OP!
Wait, you can reload during Biotic Charge? I've never heard this, anywhere.
Assumedkilla wrote...
Yeah, I've gone damage twice before in SS, but I prefer going drain since it's saved my life so many times. Doing a SS again to a phantom only takes a sec or two and it's safe since I'm still cloaked the whole time, so they're not attacking.ryoldschool wrote...
Assumedkilla wrote...
The only thing I said I'd SS twice was a phantom and after the second SS she's dead. That would most likely be quicker and safer than trying to shoot her, since she doesn't know I'm there and most people probably couldn't hit a flipping phantom 100% with their first two claymore shots. If someone is looking for max damage with a claymore why not just use a GI? Their DPS would be higher.The Rainbow Reaper wrote...
^the whole point of the build is to use the claymore along with damage cloak to pump out as much damage as possible. I'm fairly sure 2 claymore shots and a ss in 3 seconds is more efficient than 2 ss in the same time span.
With the build from Micah3sixty you can one-hit kill phantoms on gold only with one SS ( cooldown 2.54 with Piranha or Wraith ). I am wondering what the cooldown on cloak is with the claymore X - the build says 4.85 seconds.
Shotgun Nova wrote...
What's funny is, I can't effectively use BSN builds like these, because I either don't have a respec card (I have 2), or I can't perform the technique optimally/can't effectively use it to utmost potential. Most of the it just doesn't work out.
I'll try this build out, see if it fits me. Might try other alternatives to the Claymore. If it doesn't fit me well enough, then so be it. Anyway OP, nice well-written guide and nice video!
ryoldschool wrote...
Shotgun Nova wrote...
What's funny is, I can't effectively use BSN builds like these, because I either don't have a respec card (I have 2), or I can't perform the technique optimally/can't effectively use it to utmost potential. Most of the it just doesn't work out.
I'll try this build out, see if it fits me. Might try other alternatives to the Claymore. If it doesn't fit me well enough, then so be it. Anyway OP, nice well-written guide and nice video!
In the Micah3sixty build ( linked above ) as long as you have equipment applied and a light weapon the build works great. Need Melee gear ( Hydraulic Joints or best other buff to melee ), strength enhancer consumable on the weapon, and a power amplifier armor mod. Also put a melee mod on your weapon.
Modifié par Shotgun Nova, 07 septembre 2012 - 12:04 .
Influ wrote...
It works with any power with sufficiently long animation. Empty your clip, use a power before the auto reload starts, weapon reloads during the power. It should technically work with any power, as long as the auto reload starts during the power's animation. It's just more noticeable with powers with long animations, as you're less likely to cancel the reload by doing something else.BuckshotSamurai wrote...
Jack Crapper wrote...
Yeah, SS works like BC in that regard. I'm on Xbox, and I believe you have to hold down the fire button and SS right after shooting.Pichsterz wrote...
Great build. I didn't know you can reload while in SS mode.
OT: Epically beautiful. I never thought to use the Claymore like that, though I do it with BC. Since I love the Claymore, it's especially nice to find this. Thanks, OP!
Wait, you can reload during Biotic Charge? I've never heard this, anywhere.
Modifié par Fox-snipe, 07 septembre 2012 - 12:28 .
Ravenmyste wrote...
if you have the crusader use it!
my shadow uses it and it really does a number on them mooks and bosses my claymore is IX and has less accuracy but does alot more damage i will give you that, but if you use crusader{mines is up to II} with fully accuracy and damage mods it really out preforms and you can also switch the accuracy mod for a bigger clip mod and get 4 shots compared to the clyamore where you only get one shot
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