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[Little Princess Peach]

LiarasShield wrote...

Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

Shepard lived even bioware said they added the breath scene to give players hope during one of the american events

Bull if they wanted alot more players to believe shepard was alive we would've seen his or her face when he or she supposedly took this breath to show that he or she is alive since we don't see them it could be just another n7 down there that doesn't help anything

This my friend is where speculation comes in

[D24O]

Shepard is dead. Long live the Shepard.

[DirtyPhoenix]

Also, the presidium tower looks pretty intact for the amount of damage it took.


They retconned the citadel damage like they did so many other things, but it doesn't look all that unlikely for Shepard to survive now, she survives a reaper blast afterall lol.

[phillip100]

bleetman wrote...

Not that I'm defending the quality of the ridiculous five second breath teaser in a high EMS destroy, but it still happens. Stop pretending there's nothing existing ingame to suggest Shepard lives.

^This. I don't see how the breath scene means that Shepard is dead, when it doesn't show that in any other endings.

[LiarasShield]

D24O wrote...

Shepard is dead. Long live the Shepard.

Shepard the legend by buzz aldruin the tale of how shepard died trying to stop the reapers lol

[I am disappoint]

Time to wake up Ending fans.
It was all a Reaper dream unless Bioware shows otherwise.

[phillip100]

The ME3 collectors edition booklet says that he is alive at the highest EMS(4000+) if you chose destroy. If that is not proof, I don't know what proof is.

[Blueprotoss]

phillip100 wrote...

essarr71 wrote...

And yet you cant prove it.

So you're saying that the breath scene is NOT proof that Shepard is alive, but his/her last breath? In that scene, Shepard is not shown to be breathing at all until about the last 2 seconds of that scene before going into the credits. The sudden breath Shepard takes shows that he/she is alive, NOT dead.

Thats directed at the OP's OP on Shepard being dead during the breathing scene.

[Iakus]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

Read the ME3 script that was leaked before the game's release. That scene is labeled "Shepard lives" by the writers.

They kept it open to interpretation in case any players want to headcanon that he/she dies. But their intent was clear.

Because having a half dozen other endings where Shepard dies is clearly not enough.  The one where SHepard lives will just have to share.

/sarcasm

[Village_Idiot]

No, there is no conclusive evidence Shepard is alive.

Nor is there any to the contrary.

The fact that the "breath" scene even exists, along with the not so subtle allusions added in the EC indicating that Shepard might perhaps not have kicked the bucket, is very much a sledgehammer method of saying "hey, Shep isn't dead".

Besides, Shepard survived getting sat on by Sovereign, and shortly later died, went through re-entry, and was somehow resurrected. If they expect me to suspend my disbelief over Shep surviving an explosion, I'd say it isn't much of a stretch.

Modifié par Shadrach 88, 07 septembre 2012 - 06:08 .

[LiarasShield]

phillip100 wrote...

bleetman wrote...

Not that I'm defending the quality of the ridiculous five second breath teaser in a high EMS destroy, but it still happens. Stop pretending there's nothing existing ingame to suggest Shepard lives.

^This. I don't see how the breath scene means that Shepard is dead, when it doesn't show that in any other endings.

Shepard dies in all the other endings and it is clear to me not only from all the damage shepard went through  since shepard died from less damage in me2

But because if bioware wanted shepard to be alive they would've shown more of him or her being alive so I don't think their intent was for him or her to live espically since every other ending has him or her dead anyway

[phillip100]

Blueprotoss wrote...

phillip100 wrote...

essarr71 wrote...

And yet you cant prove it.

So you're saying that the breath scene is NOT proof that Shepard is alive, but his/her last breath? In that scene, Shepard is not shown to be breathing at all until about the last 2 seconds of that scene before going into the credits. The sudden breath Shepard takes shows that he/she is alive, NOT dead.

Thats directed at the OP's OP on Shepard being dead during the breathing scene.

I know that.

[Unata]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Does this prove that shepard is the space hamster?

Not even space hamsters are safe ...

[LiarasShield]

I feel and pretty damn sure know that shepard is dead from all the damage he or she takes wether he or she returns to earth via beam or not

If you chose to destroy to destroy the reapers then you did the right thing if you chose to destroy so shepard may live then I'm sorry to say this but that is not this ending


Shepards thoughts and emotions live on for all eternity in control instead of being a dead or paralyzed body on the ground

Modifié par LiarasShield, 07 septembre 2012 - 06:09 .

[Tipsyfresh]

The EC shows the citadel f'd up but fairly intact during Hackett's epilogue. So since Shep didn't fall to earth then it seems possible he did survive the destroy ending (only to probably die days later).

Still doesn't matter tho, the fact that we have to talk about this shows that whatever bioware wanted to convey....wasn't conveyed.

[Harbinger of your Destiny]

I don;t care if Shepard dies in destroy, it's still the right choice.

[RenegonSQ]

RenegonSQ wrote...

RenegonSQ wrote...

The Collectors Edition Book says that you live in the High EMS Destroy ending.

Look it up.

Nothing else needs to be said.

[Iakus]

Tipsyfresh wrote...

Still doesn't matter tho, the fact that we have to talk about this shows that whatever bioware wanted to convey....wasn't conveyed.

Very much this.

Funny how this is one scene EC didn't touch.  I thought it was supposed to provide "clarity and closure"?

[wright1978]

iakus wrote...

HYR 2.0 wrote...

Read the ME3 script that was leaked before the game's release. That scene is labeled "Shepard lives" by the writers.

They kept it open to interpretation in case any players want to headcanon that he/she dies. But their intent was clear.

Because having a half dozen other endings where Shepard dies is clearly not enough.  The one where SHepard lives will just have to share.

/sarcasm

Indeed. Bioware is  just too utterly cheap to provide exposition to the one version where shep lives.

[phillip100]

LiarasShield wrote...

I feel and pretty damn sure know that shepard is dead from all the damage he or she takes wether he or she returns to earth via beam or not

If you chose to destroy to destroy the reapers then you did the right thing if you chose to destroy so shepard may live then I'm sorry to say this but that is not this ending


Shepards thoughts and emotions live on for all eternity in control instead of being a dead or paralyzed body on the ground

The collectors edition booklet says that Shepard is alive if you have an EMS of 4000 or more and choose destroy. If that is not proof to you, then you really are ignorant.

[LiarasShield]

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

I don;t care if Shepard dies in destroy, it's still the right choice.

See this is fine I'm sure that shepard did die but if you chose this choice to stop the reapers then that is fine we were all trying to stop the reapers one way or another anyway

[Village_Idiot]

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

I don;t care if Shepard dies in destroy, it's still the right choice.

This also. Choosing Destroy simply so Shepard can live is about as selfish as it gets. The ultimate Renegade decision if you will.

[Pitznik]

pirate1802 wrote...

Also, the presidium tower looks pretty intact for the amount of damage it took.


They retconned the citadel damage like they did so many other things, but it doesn't look all that unlikely for Shepard to survive now, she survives a reaper blast afterall lol.

Problem is you can still see the wards breaking away in the explosion. So either this slide shows the Citadel being halfway fixed, some time after the ending, or person that edited the destroy cinematic made a cut bit too late.

[LiarasShield]

phillip100 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

I feel and pretty damn sure know that shepard is dead from all the damage he or she takes wether he or she returns to earth via beam or not

If you chose to destroy to destroy the reapers then you did the right thing if you chose to destroy so shepard may live then I'm sorry to say this but that is not this ending


Shepards thoughts and emotions live on for all eternity in control instead of being a dead or paralyzed body on the ground

The collectors edition booklet says that Shepard is alive if you have an EMS of 4000 or more and choose destroy. If that is not proof to you, then you really are ignorant.

Yeah because using twitter and books that are not in the game is so fact worthy just how I can rewrite anything on wikipedia and if you look it up you still might believe it

[AxStapleton]

wright1978 wrote...

iakus wrote...

HYR 2.0 wrote...

Read the ME3 script that was leaked before the game's release. That scene is labeled "Shepard lives" by the writers.

They kept it open to interpretation in case any players want to headcanon that he/she dies. But their intent was clear.

Because having a half dozen other endings where Shepard dies is clearly not enough.  The one where SHepard lives will just have to share.

/sarcasm

Indeed. EA is  just too utterly cheap to provide exposition to the one version where shep lives.

Fix'd