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#176
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LiarasShield wrote...

you can handle speculation I wanted closure with our protagonist not a speculation contest on shepard being alive or he or she getting no damn closure nope sorry not my cup of tea


You don't need to be spoon fed word for word everything that happens to get closure.

Know Shep was alive was enough for me. I can imagine him having a happy retirement on Rannoch on my own.

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Sorry but i'm still shooting the pipe hell even if the whole galaxy blew up i'd still shoot the pipe.

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LiarasShield wrote...

dead shepard gets closure but supposedly in destroy they can't even give true closure to shepard being alive yeah not something I will ever get over soon


agree on that. believe my shep is alive but they could have offered more in the way of closure. even if it was just to show rebar falling on him or her. be nice to know 100%

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eye basher wrote...

Sorry but i'm still shooting the pipe hell even if the whole galaxy blew up i'd still shoot the pipe.


yeah HATE that fu*king pipe :devil:

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They didn't put that much effort into the other endings, why would they even try to show signs of life in Shepard if the intended interpretation is that he/she's dead? Oh yeah...it's called non-high-EMS Destroy. Shepard doesn't survive that one.

Also, last time I checked, breathing = alive (unless you've been suddenly submerged in freezing cold water, but that's another case). Again, I said it's *debatable* past that point, but I still don't think BioWare would put in even a token effort to show Shep is alive if the intention was death at all EMS levels.


Exactly, why put so much effort into something unless they want to cover it up? Its a conspiracy, hes ded.

Or they want you to think this way.

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Also, the presidium tower looks pretty intact for the amount of damage it took.
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They retconned the citadel damage like they did so many other things, but it doesn't look all that unlikely for Shepard to survive now, she survives a reaper blast afterall lol.

How was it retconned when the Citadel wasn't destroyed before or after the EC.

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Mcfly616 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...



It takes extreme amount of believe even extremist at most to believe he or she survived all this let alone the citadel possiably breaking apart let alone shepard getting teleported back down it doesn't really matter which one happended



No....it just takes common sense and simple logic lol

Common sense says Bioware wouldn't take the time and effort to create a scene(that had to be worked towards over the course of the game) just to show us a visual of Shepards "last breath". Logic says the official strategy guide isn't lying when it says "Shepard Lives" (especially since Bioware hasn't released a statement saying 'it was a misprint')


But we've been here before and we've already been through this, and its quite obvious that it doesn't matter how much proof or common sense is thrown in your face, you simply want Shepard to be dead. And not because that's what you wanted to begin with. In fact, I think you hate the ending so much that you want Shepard to be dead just to have another reason to bash Bioware.

Jokes on you though. Constantly flinging the same garbage on a daily basis. The other day you started a thread trying to disprove the fact that he is alive, and here we are again today.....same thread, different title. You make yourself look pathetic lol. Continue banging your head against a wall though.



Maybe because I'm not willing to accept mere speculation of shepard being alive and getting no closure for our protagonist of five **** i n g years so I'm sorry that I like the game more then you obviously you don't share the same passion for it that I do

mere speculation? try ink, and plain English. Lol You do.seem.content on making up your own little ideas and believing them lol


Hahaha and you like the game more than me? Because of your undying devotion to picking it apart and bashing it? Riiiiight lol. This isn't even fun anymore , I feel bad for you.

Currently on my 10th playthrough of ME3, replayed the entire trilogy 3 more times since EC came out.......and here you are on a daily basis. You're totally right, you like this game waaaay more than me, evidenced by the fact that you're here coming up with new things to b*tch about on a daily basis, and I'm playing that game.

Call it whatever you want, but you just prove how ass-backwards you really are lol.


I already know I like the game more then you because I care about shepards fate enough to truely want and see some damn closure for her but your willing to ok with speculation in the destroy ending good for ****ing you but I'm not ok with that never will and you have just as much delussions and is just as arrogant as you're trying to make me out to be lol.

And you keep playing the game million times bull**** otherwise you wouldn't be trying to hurl insults at me every day

Modifié par LiarasShield, 07 septembre 2012 - 06:55 .


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CDRSkyShepard wrote...

D24O wrote...

Exactly, why put so much effort into something unless they want to cover it up? Its a conspiracy, hes ded.

Riiiiight.


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The Angry One wrote...

Shadrach 88 wrote...

My money's on that a full-blown "Shepard reunites with crew and is obviously not dead" ending was regarded as too cheesy. (Art jokes abound.) Instead it's alluded to.


More likely they wanted to kill Shepard in every ending, because suicidal stupidity HEROIC SACRIFICE.
But they were too scared to commit to "Shepard dead no matter what" so they threw in this if maybe probably easter egg.


shooting a tube, lets make Shepard stand in front it and call it sacrifice

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I just think its honestly up to the player to decide if he died or not.

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I am disappoint wrote...

Time to wake up Ending fans.
It was all a Reaper dream unless Bioware shows otherwise.

The IT was neither confirmed nor denied by Bioware.  Either way its up to Bioware even when they showed a lot of pro-IT content throughout the series.

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The Angry One wrote...

Shadrach 88 wrote...

My money's on that a full-blown "Shepard reunites with crew and is obviously not dead" ending was regarded as too cheesy. (Art jokes abound.) Instead it's alluded to.


More likely they wanted to kill Shepard in every ending, because suicidal stupidity HEROIC SACRIFICE.
But they were too scared to commit to "Shepard dead no matter what" so they threw in this if maybe probably easter egg.


Or a combination of the two? I agree the "Heroic Sacrifice is the only option" notion is bonkers in a game supposedly based on choice.

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Seems to me that the story sets Shep up for that last scene, no matter the choice, Shep is either blown up, toasted by electricity/energy,transmutated and diseminated through out space or harvested.. None seems so good for Physical Shep. So I assumed he/she never made to the catalyst lair, but instead was just on the ground all hidden and buried in rubble from that wicked reaper blast. Mostly because there is never the correct garb worn,and it's probable that the beam it's self was designed to pick up 'dead' stuff for harvest.

That way, when up there farting around, Shep is just a reflection of his/her self. The choices are all from the crucible and the citadel, the data from those decisions is all that's needed from Shep. Shep is still on the ground the whole time. Mortally or not, wounded but communicating  with the catalyst, as the story puts him/her working up to that from every incident regarding the reapers and the idea of ending the cycle.  All the mental pictures and weird dreams and the cypher and Asari Shep communed with. All point to extra sensory perception for communicating. Its not speculation to figure Shep does this, and explains, kind of why the reaper that shot at Shep, went on about other business just after.

The breath scene doesn't really make sense,even if with the necessary game stats, to get a living breathing Shep, IF the game builders were in the mind of ending the Trilogy. It's no way to end a hero rant, with the hero not at least riding off into the sunset. With that breath, we're stuck with either Sheps OK, or Shep made one last hurrah.

The strangest part of it that this scene only occurs with 'destroy' and no other? That would infer that destroy is canon, as saving Shep is paramount for ALL players...  At least one person from the devs side, infers that it 'could be' a last breath. But many dis that as disinformation, or generalization of some sort.  This all is too much head canoning and unessissary metagaming to understand if or if not Shep lives. The game seems to point that Shep does not, other than that breath scene, where it is only ONE breath, not enough to say it's over,just enough to say it isn't.

Who ever thought that one up had a bad idea, unless they wanted players to get upset over it for some reason, OR they intended to leave an opening for a possible comeback for Shep. I didn't like the idea of the scene with the supposed LI getting all hopeful and having some 'realization' either.. A little too much fiction there as well. It would've been easier to just plan another game or something. imho

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JeffZero wrote...

This thread.

Oh. My god.



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Daaang, man, this forum... People just hate to be happy.

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AresKeith wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Shadrach 88 wrote...

My money's on that a full-blown "Shepard reunites with crew and is obviously not dead" ending was regarded as too cheesy. (Art jokes abound.) Instead it's alluded to.


More likely they wanted to kill Shepard in every ending, because suicidal stupidity HEROIC SACRIFICE.
But they were too scared to commit to "Shepard dead no matter what" so they threw in this if maybe probably easter egg.


shooting a tube, lets make Shepard stand in front it and call it sacrifice

Yet Shepard did sacrafice him/herself similar to the sacrafice option in DA.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 07 septembre 2012 - 06:58 .


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Banul wrote...

You don't need to be spoon fed word for word everything that happens to get closure.

Know Shep was alive was enough for me. I can imagine him having a happy retirement on Rannoch on my own.

Pretty much this.

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That's enough of that, thank you. If you actually want to discuss something, calling out your opponents and telling them how you can never be wrong is a terrible way to do it.

End of line.