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[Iakus]

 ME1 Shepard emerging alive:   1:10-2:55

ME2 Shepard rescue by Normandy:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5fj0xvMCJg 1:15-3:15

ME3:  Shepard "lives"   9:15-11:00

How does ME3's even compare?  

[MegaSovereign]

iakus wrote...

 ME1 Shepard emerging alive:   1:10-2:55

ME2 Shepard rescue by Normandy:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5fj0xvMCJg 1:15-3:15

ME3:  Shepard "lives"   9:15-11:00

How does ME3's even compare?  

The ME1 scene was so emotional.

[Pitznik]

iakus wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Because they pretty much said that Shepard does survive, and a reunion can and would very well happen in this scenario. But because people we're all like "THIS NO MAEK A SENSE SHEPARD IS DEAD YOU DUMB EAWARE, YOU DUMB!" They simply said "Okay, if you think your shepard is dead, then he or she is dead."

And if the scene was that obvious, there wouldn't be so many people wondering about the scene.  And comments that it makes no sense.

The fact that so many people are confused and unhappy with the scene shows how badly it fails in its purpose.

Or how badly those people fail at simple scene interpretation. Really, I understand you want more, but this scene isn't even ambiguous!

[AresKeith]

iakus wrote...

 ME1 Shepard emerging alive:   1:10-2:55

ME2 Shepard rescue by Normandy:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5fj0xvMCJg 1:15-3:15

ME3:  Shepard "lives"   9:15-11:00

How does ME3's even compare?  

the ME3 one should have been a combination of both ME1 and ME2

[Blueprotoss]

iakus wrote...

 ME1 Shepard emerging alive:   1:10-2:55

ME2 Shepard rescue by Normandy:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5fj0xvMCJg 1:15-3:15

ME3:  Shepard "lives"   9:15-11:00

How does ME3's even compare?  

To be fair ME3 as a whole is more emotional then ME1 and ME2.

[wright1978]

MegaSovereign wrote...

It's to appease the IT fans.

They went out of their way to make sure that interpretation is intact.

Otherwise we would have at least gotten a slide of your LI by your side.

Yep this is the reason shep lives was given no proper clarification/closure in a piece of dlc designed to provide clarification/closure. Cheap, utterly cheap Bioware. I will not forget how cheap!

[Jamie9]

wright1978 wrote...
Yep this is the reason shep lives was given no proper clarification/closure in a piece of dlc designed to provide clarification/closure. Cheap, utterly cheap Bioware. I will not forget how cheap!

It was free. Describing anything that is free as "cheap" is just wrong.

[Ithurael]

MegaSovereign wrote...

It's to appease the IT fans.

They went out of their way to make sure that interpretation is intact.

Otherwise we would have at least gotten a slide of your LI by your side.

LOL good point!

[B.Shep]

Agree. Shepard is alive, i don't need them to feed me on my mouth to understand that.

By the way, most of the people don't have a problem with that scene because they realize how obvious is Shepard survived in Destroy with a high EMS.

[bleetman]

Legendary Chop Chop wrote...

Then people would have asked "how did Tali get there?". It was a slippery slope to go down.

Perhaps they could've avoided writing themselves into a nonsensical corner in the first place.

[Ithurael]

Blueprotoss wrote...

iakus wrote...

 ME1 Shepard emerging alive:   1:10-2:55

ME2 Shepard rescue by Normandy:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5fj0xvMCJg 1:15-3:15

ME3:  Shepard "lives"   9:15-11:00

How does ME3's even compare?  

To be fair ME3 as a whole is more emotional then ME1 and ME2.

The lead up to the ending of ME3 was a bit more emotional (EG when you make your choices)

But the "shepard emerges" scenes from ME1 and 2 easily trump ME3

[Ticonderoga117]

Blueprotoss wrote...
To be fair ME3 as a whole is more emotional then ME1 and ME2.

Until it feel flat on its face with the ending. That kind of jarring transition killed all of it.
Mordin - Died for no reason.
Legion - Died for no reason.
Thane- Died for no reason.

Thanks ME3 ending.

[wright1978]

Jamie9 wrote...

wright1978 wrote...
Yep this is the reason shep lives was given no proper clarification/closure in a piece of dlc designed to provide clarification/closure. Cheap, utterly cheap Bioware. I will not forget how cheap!

It was free. Describing anything that is free as "cheap" is just wrong.

I wasn't talking about the cost of the DLC. I was talking about the utterly cheap and nasty nature of the clarification/closure provided to high EMS in comparison with the reams of clarification/closure provided to the fate of Shep in the other endings.

[Mcfly616]

LiarasShield wrote...

This is what bothers me the most and I'm not gonna stop talking about it ninja stan you can lock or ban me if you want but it is not something I'm going to just let go of

its official. This broad is a straight up TrollLolololol

[ShepnTali]

Thanks IT people. Thanks.


In seriousness, if it's a play at appeasing multiple crowds, it wasn't effective. It's a hard trick to pull off.

[Blueprotoss]

wright1978 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

It's to appease the IT fans.

They went out of their way to make sure that interpretation is intact.

Otherwise we would have at least gotten a slide of your LI by your side.

Yep this is the reason shep lives was given no proper clarification/closure in a piece of dlc designed to provide clarification/closure. Cheap, utterly cheap Bioware. I will not forget how cheap!

Its not cheap while clarification/closure is still opinion last time that was checked because it varies from person to person.  Either way a canon ending will eventualy be picked with ME3 post ending DLC or at the start of ME4.

[Mavqt]

Ithurael wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

iakus wrote...

 ME1 Shepard emerging alive:   1:10-2:55

ME2 Shepard rescue by Normandy:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5fj0xvMCJg 1:15-3:15

ME3:  Shepard "lives"   9:15-11:00

How does ME3's even compare?  

To be fair ME3 as a whole is more emotional then ME1 and ME2.

The lead up to the ending of ME3 was a bit more emotional (EG when you make your choices)

But the "shepard emerges" scenes from ME1 and 2 easily trump ME3

This.

[wright1978]

Blueprotoss wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

It's to appease the IT fans.

They went out of their way to make sure that interpretation is intact.

Otherwise we would have at least gotten a slide of your LI by your side.

Yep this is the reason shep lives was given no proper clarification/closure in a piece of dlc designed to provide clarification/closure. Cheap, utterly cheap Bioware. I will not forget how cheap!

Its not cheap while clarification/closure is still opinion last time that was checked because it varies from person to person.  Either way a canon ending will eventualy be picked with ME3 post ending DLC or at the start of ME4.

Nope compare the clarification/closure provided to the other endings in EC and then watch as shep lives is dumped at the end of high EMS destroy like it was a piece of garbage they were desperate to dispose of.
Yeah i'm sure a canon will eventually be picked. That doesn't excuse their desperate attempts to avoid providing any real clarification/closure for ME3 shep lives ending in EC.

[The Twilight God]

LiarasShield wrote...

I am disappoint wrote...

IT Speculation

that is why we couldnt get closure?

Yes, because in order to allow people to have peace of mind with indoctrinated choices they had to make them all ambiguous and mediocre as not to play favorites. I'd rather have 1 good ending than 3 mediocre and 1 F.U. ending.

iakus wrote...

If that's the case my rage will blot out the sun

Let your rage block out the sun!!!

[Iron Spetsnaz]

Personally I think that the Shepard Breathing scene was enough for me, because the Catalyst said that shepard would not survive.

So, because of that, my interpretation of the Shepard Breathing Scene is that Shepard is literally taking his last breath before he dies, and his body being recovered and being given the largest funeral in the history of the galaxy.

Just like most people's interpretations of Shepard surviving and re-uniting with their LI's and having a happy life, is their interpretation.

And by making Shepard survive IN CANON, would pretty much ruin the Destroy ending for me.

[Memnon]

If there was closure with the Destroy ending - e.g. a reunion with the LI, drinks with Garrus, etc - then nobody would choose the other endings.

[ShepnTali]

ME1 -- victory was most emotional moment for me.


ME2 -- Again, victory.. with all the crew's eyes on Shepard after the mission. Even Jack knew the score. This was great.


ME3 -- Saying 'potential' goodbyes. Great writing will make you believe the end may be near, even if you're deep down certain it will all be ok in the end.

[fil009]

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...
To be fair ME3 as a whole is more emotional then ME1 and ME2.

Until it feel flat on its face with the ending. That kind of jarring transition killed all of it.
Mordin - Died for no reason.
Legion - Died for no reason.
Thane- Died for no reason.

Thanks ME3 ending.

Huh? Yes the ending sequences were a little flat and I understand the story was written so they die but all 3 at least had circumstances and reasons:

Mordin- that tower was shot to sh!t and he had to go up to the top because he was the only one who could use the sample still stored at there to create a cure.
Legion- the way I understand this was he needed to upload his programming so the rest of the "units" could use his code and become their own selves.
Thane- was protecting Shep, Dalatrass, and the Council.

Modifié par fil009, 07 septembre 2012 - 08:25 .

[Mcfly616]

http://social.biowar...ndex/14019012/1

[Blueprotoss]

wright1978 wrote...

Nope compare the clarification/closure provided to the other endings in EC and then watch as shep lives is dumped at the end of high EMS destroy like it was a piece of garbage they were desperate to dispose of.

How is that when all the endings reach a certain point and hand holding isn't neccessary.

wright1978 wrote... 

Yeah i'm sure a canon will eventually be picked. That doesn't excuse their desperate attempts to avoid providing any real clarification/closure for ME3 shep lives ending in EC.

It seems you missed the point especially when DLC and ME4 are involved.  If there was post ending DLC then it wold fall under canon while its up to Bioware since ME is their baby.