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[Blueprotoss]

AresKeith wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

wright1978 wrote... 

Yeah i'm sure a canon will eventually be picked. That doesn't excuse their desperate attempts to avoid providing any real clarification/closure for ME3 shep lives ending in EC.

It seems you missed the point especially when DLC and ME4 are involved.  If there was post ending DLC then it wold fall under canon while its up to Bioware since ME is their baby.

Bioware isn't gonna make post-ending DLCs because there afraid to say a canon ending, but if they do make a ME4 there gonna have to

Thats a huge assumption on DLC since Bioware hasn't commented on post-ending DLC and Arrival woudn't have been treated like it was.

[MegaSovereign]

Blueprotoss wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

wright1978 wrote... 

Yeah i'm sure a canon will eventually be picked. That doesn't excuse their desperate attempts to avoid providing any real clarification/closure for ME3 shep lives ending in EC.

It seems you missed the point especially when DLC and ME4 are involved.  If there was post ending DLC then it wold fall under canon while its up to Bioware since ME is their baby.

Bioware isn't gonna make post-ending DLCs because there afraid to say a canon ending, but if they do make a ME4 there gonna have to

Thats a huge assumption on DLC since Bioware hasn't commented on post-ending DLC and Arrival woudn't have been treated like it was.

...They have commented on post-ending DLC.

They said this was the definitive ending to Mass Effect 3.

[Blueprotoss]

wright1978 wrote...

EJ107 wrote...

It never even explains how Shepard DID survive, which is the biggest question of all. Probably because by all accounts it makes no sense. The complete lack of closure is infuriating. 

All I wanted from Mass Effect 3 was a satisfying conclusion where the defeat of the Reapers made sense and I go to see Shepard alive and with his LI like he deserved.

Mass Effect 3 gave me neither of those two things, even after the EC, and with excessive ammounts of autodialogue and a boring and semi-mandatory MP feature to boot. That is why the Mass Effect 3 will forever be remembered by me as one of the largest disappointments of my life, and one of the worst games I have ever played.

Yep the most disappointing game experience of my life. Not the worst game but just so mediocre compared to what came before.

I highly doubt thisand the MP is fun even when it isn't mandatory.

[ShepnTali]

Blueprotoss wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

wright1978 wrote... 

Yeah i'm sure a canon will eventually be picked. That doesn't excuse their desperate attempts to avoid providing any real clarification/closure for ME3 shep lives ending in EC.

It seems you missed the point especially when DLC and ME4 are involved.  If there was post ending DLC then it wold fall under canon while its up to Bioware since ME is their baby.

Bioware isn't gonna make post-ending DLCs because there afraid to say a canon ending, but if they do make a ME4 there gonna have to

Thats a huge assumption on DLC since Bioware hasn't commented on post-ending DLC and Arrival woudn't have been treated like it was.

Bioware says no. If you think they're full of it, that's a different issue.

[wright1978]

Blueprotoss wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

Epilogues take place over hundreds of years. Yet destroy dumps a sequence from immediate aftermath and refuses to provide any exposition for it within the epilogue. Other endings have odes to dead sheps, yet live shep doesn't even get the tiniest amount of exposition.

Yet the Epilogue is the Stargazer scene and the only ending choice that extends the endings by thousands of years would be the Refusal ending.  It doesn't matter if Shepard dies in most of the endings and lives in one of the endings.

Nope epilogue is not stargazer scene in EC. Stargazer scene is tagged onto end of epilogue in EC.

[AresKeith]

Blueprotoss wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

wright1978 wrote... 

Yeah i'm sure a canon will eventually be picked. That doesn't excuse their desperate attempts to avoid providing any real clarification/closure for ME3 shep lives ending in EC.

It seems you missed the point especially when DLC and ME4 are involved.  If there was post ending DLC then it wold fall under canon while its up to Bioware since ME is their baby.

Bioware isn't gonna make post-ending DLCs because there afraid to say a canon ending, but if they do make a ME4 there gonna have to

Thats a huge assumption on DLC since Bioware hasn't commented on post-ending DLC and Arrival woudn't have been treated like it was.

Arrival is ME2 Post-ending DLC not ME3, so that comment is irrelevant

and this basically says no Post-ending DLC for ME3, skip to 1:20

[Blueprotoss]

MegaSovereign wrote...

...They have commented on post-ending DLC.

They said this was the definitive ending to Mass Effect 3.

ShepnTali wrote...

Bioware says no. If you think they're full of it, that's a different issue.

AresKeith wrote...

Arrival is ME2 Post-ending DLC not ME3, so that comment is irrelevant

and this basically says no Post-ending DLC for ME3, skip to 1:20 

 To be fair Bioware did say that there would be no ending DLC not post-ending DLC.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 07 septembre 2012 - 09:05 .

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

@ LiarasShield -- I'm just as passionate and angry about this as you. It was more infuriating than the original ending because I got it with the original ending.

1) The breath scene is the most infuriating part of ME3. It really needs to be expounded upon. They say Shepard lives. On the PC it's in the file name. The panel said this at SDCC, then Chris Hepler said "it could be Shepard's last breath", as well as Chris Priestly. This did not endear or give confidence as to Shepards post game status.

I'm also at the point of "if Shepard lives show me the money shot." Then let Shepard be rescued and helped aboard a shuttle and taken to Earth. It doesn't even have to be that long. They just show the EMTs applying Medigel and hooking Shepard up to an IV aboard the shuttle and telling Shepard, checking vitals "Vitals are stable. Damn she's a tough one.", and smiling and saying "You're gonna make it, Shep." and Shepard saying "Thanks." They can do this as an addition with one of the upcoming DLCs.

2) Since the breath scene is part of the original ending, it can be added to without any issue.

3) I can head canon the rest.

[Blueprotoss]

wright1978 wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

Epilogues take place over hundreds of years. Yet destroy dumps a sequence from immediate aftermath and refuses to provide any exposition for it within the epilogue. Other endings have odes to dead sheps, yet live shep doesn't even get the tiniest amount of exposition.

Yet the Epilogue is the Stargazer scene and the only ending choice that extends the endings by thousands of years would be the Refusal ending.  It doesn't matter if Shepard dies in most of the endings and lives in one of the endings.

Nope epilogue is not stargazer scene in EC. Stargazer scene is tagged onto end of epilogue in EC.

The Stargazer scene is the Epilogue, which appeared after the Credits before the EC.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 07 septembre 2012 - 09:04 .

[MegaSovereign]

Perhaps there wasn't full closure with Shepard in the Destroy ending but damn me if they didn't they give closure to just about everything else. I'm actually glad they didn't over do the Michael Bay explosions in ME3 like they did with the ME2 ending.

[wright1978]

Blueprotoss wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

Epilogues take place over hundreds of years. Yet destroy dumps a sequence from immediate aftermath and refuses to provide any exposition for it within the epilogue. Other endings have odes to dead sheps, yet live shep doesn't even get the tiniest amount of exposition.

Yet the Epilogue is the Stargazer scene and the only ending choice that extends the endings by thousands of years would be the Refusal ending.  It doesn't matter if Shepard dies in most of the endings and lives in one of the endings.

Nope epilogue is not stargazer scene in EC. Stargazer scene is tagged onto end of epilogue in EC.

The Stargazer scene is the Epilogue, which appeared after the Credits before the EC.

It was the epilogue before the EC delivered its own epilogue.

[Ianamus]

Blueprotoss wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

EJ107 wrote...

It never even explains how Shepard DID survive, which is the biggest question of all. Probably because by all accounts it makes no sense. The complete lack of closure is infuriating. 

All I wanted from Mass Effect 3 was a satisfying conclusion where the defeat of the Reapers made sense and I go to see Shepard alive and with his LI like he deserved.

Mass Effect 3 gave me neither of those two things, even after the EC, and with excessive ammounts of autodialogue and a boring and semi-mandatory MP feature to boot. That is why the Mass Effect 3 will forever be remembered by me as one of the largest disappointments of my life, and one of the worst games I have ever played.

Yep the most disappointing game experience of my life. Not the worst game but just so mediocre compared to what came before.

I highly doubt thisand the MP is fun even when it isn't mandatory.

You may have found the multiplayer fun but I did not- and however "not mandatory" it may have been when I saw that a few games of multiplayer had more impact on my EMS score than some of the most important in-game decisions from ME1 and ME2 I unsuprisingly thought that if I wanted my "happy ending" I would have to sit through the multiplayer until I got 100% galactic readiness. 

Sure, it only gives you a **** vague scene where Shepard twitches, but I didn't know that at the time!  

[AresKeith]

Blueprotoss wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

...They have commented on post-ending DLC.

They said this was the definitive ending to Mass Effect 3.

ShepnTali wrote...

Bioware says no. If you think they're full of it, that's a different issue.

AresKeith wrote...

Arrival is ME2 Post-ending DLC not ME3, so that comment is irrelevant

and this basically says no Post-ending DLC for ME3, skip to 1:20 

 To be fair Bioware did say that there would be no ending DLC not post-ending DLC.

um no, this video clearly says no Post-ending DLCs

[ShepnTali]

Bioware says no post breath DLC. Merizan was pretty definitive on that.

[Blueprotoss]

wright1978 wrote...

]It was the epilogue before the EC delivered its own epilogue.

Yet the Epilogue is the Stargazer scene and the EC extended the endings.

[Blueprotoss]

EJ107 wrote...

You may have found the multiplayer fun but I did not- and however "not mandatory" it may have been when I saw that a few games of multiplayer had more impact on my EMS score than some of the most important in-game decisions from ME1 and ME2 I unsuprisingly thought that if I wanted my "happy ending" I would have to sit through the multiplayer until I got 100% galactic readiness.

A few MP matches isn't going to hurt anyone even when gettng the Highest EMS is optional.

EJ107 wrote... 
Sure, it only gives you a **** vague scene where Shepard twitches, but I didn't know that at the time!  

There's nothing wrong with an easter egg ending.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 07 septembre 2012 - 09:10 .

[Blueprotoss]

AresKeith wrote...

xsdob wrote...

^ Marvel vs Capcom 3, waited 10 years for that game. They promised an interesting story, full cutscenes for each character, advanced co-op and multiplayer features.

And what I got had less in it than even street fighter did, and it was made by the same guys to.

MvC3 and UMvC3 were terrible

If thats the case then why did they sell well without you liking them.  Its all opinion here. 

AresKeith wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

...They have commented on post-ending DLC.

They said this was the definitive ending to Mass Effect 3.

ShepnTali wrote...

Bioware says no. If you think they're full of it, that's a different issue.

AresKeith wrote...

Arrival is ME2 Post-ending DLC not ME3, so that comment is irrelevant

and this basically says no Post-ending DLC for ME3, skip to 1:20 

 To be fair Bioware did say that there would be no ending DLC not post-ending DLC.

um no, this video clearly says no Post-ending DLCs

Not commenting on the topic is netither confirming nor denying post-ending DLC just like what happened with the IT.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 07 septembre 2012 - 09:14 .

[wright1978]

Blueprotoss wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

]It was the epilogue before the EC delivered its own epilogue.

Yet the Epilogue is the Stargazer scene and the EC extended the endings.

Nope EC delivered its own epilogue sequences.

[Blueprotoss]

wright1978 wrote...

Nope EC delivered its own epilogue sequences.

Again the Epilogue is the Stargazer scene and the EC extended the endings.

http://dictionary.re...se/epilogue?s=t 

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 07 septembre 2012 - 09:16 .

[AresKeith]

Blueprotoss wrote...

Not commenting on the topic is netither confirming nor denying post-ending DLC just like what happened with the IT.

he's not commenting on the topic of DLCs, but he also said its not gonna be after which means no post-ending DLC. I showed you the proof

Blueprotoss wrote...

EJ107 wrote...
Sure, it only gives you a **** vague scene where Shepard twitches, but I didn't know that at the time!

There's nothing wrong with an easter egg ending.

Yes there is something wrong with that in a Video Game, if this was suppose to be the end of Shepard's story

[Dubozz]

ShepnTali wrote...

Bioware says no post breath DLC. Merizan was pretty definitive on that.

Yeah sure, there is a thread over there about "what did Bioware said about me3 prerelease"
My favourite are: 

“[The presence of the Rachni] has huge consequences in Mass
Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers.” 

and

“For people who are invested in these characters and the back-story of the
universe and everything, all of these things come to a resolution in
Mass Effect 3. And they are resolved in a way that's very different
based on what you would do in those situations.”

Modifié par Dubozz, 07 septembre 2012 - 09:18 .

[Ianamus]

Blueprotoss wrote...

EJ107 wrote...

You may have found the multiplayer fun but I did not- and however "not mandatory" it may have been when I saw that a few games of multiplayer had more impact on my EMS score than some of the most important in-game decisions from ME1 and ME2 I unsuprisingly thought that if I wanted my "happy ending" I would have to sit through the multiplayer until I got 100% galactic readiness.

A few MP matches isn't going to hurt anyone even when gettng the Highest EMS is optional.

 

Multiplayer should not have more of an impact on your EMS than your in-game decisions. If you have no idea how the system works it looks like you need to play multiplayer to "get the galaxy ready" and get a good ending-even if you don't. It gave the illusion that without multiplayer you would fail, and made the player feel pressured into playing it to get the single player outcome they want, even if they do not enjoy the multiplayer.

Multiplayer should not have had such a large impact on the single player game- or any impact at all. 

Blueprotoss wrote... 

EJ107 wrote... 
Sure, it only gives you a **** vague scene where Shepard twitches, but I didn't know that at the time!  

There's nothing wrong with an easter egg ending.

There is when you play hours of multiplayer thinking that you need to to get a good ending, and all you get is a five second scene added on to the standard rubbish ending. Not only was it one of the worst endings to a game I've ever seen but I'd wasted hours playing the multiplayer that I didn't particuarly like for an incredibly breif scene that only gave me more questions and even less closure.

Modifié par EJ107, 07 septembre 2012 - 09:20 .

[LiarasShield]

dead shepard got closure just don't see why alive shepard couldn't get any what is so wrong with that really?

[wright1978]

Blueprotoss wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

Nope EC delivered its own epilogue sequences.

Again the Epilogue is the Stargazer scene and the EC extended the endings.

http://dictionary.re...se/epilogue?s=t 

a speech, usually in verse, delivered by one of the actors after the conclusion of a play.

Ahh so Hackett, Shep Ai and EDI don't do this.

a concluding part added to a literary work, as a novel.

Clips of the galaxy rebuilding over hundred of years don't do this.

Modifié par wright1978, 07 septembre 2012 - 09:24 .

[ShepnTali]

Dubozz wrote...

ShepnTali wrote...

Bioware says no post breath DLC. Merizan was pretty definitive on that.

Yeah sure, there is a thread over there about "what did Bioware said about me3 prerelease"
My favourite are: 

“[The presence of the Rachni] has huge consequences in Mass
Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers.” 

and

“For people who are invested in these characters and the back-story of the
universe and everything, all of these things come to a resolution in
Mass Effect 3. And they are resolved in a way that's very different
based on what you would do in those situations.”

That's fine, but blueprotoss claims there are no, no post ending DLC statements.