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Why was closure not given to shepard in destroy but only implications where dead shepard gets closure in the other endings


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#126
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Dubozz wrote...

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Bioware says no post breath DLC. Merizan was pretty definitive on that.

Yeah sure, there is a thread over there about "what did Bioware said about me3 prerelease"
My favourite are: 

“[The presence of the Rachni] has huge consequences in Mass
Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers.” 

and

“For people who are invested in these characters and the back-story of the
universe and everything, all of these things come to a resolution in
Mass Effect 3. And they are resolved in a way that's very different
based on what you would do in those situations.”


yeah loved that one too. mean that with sarcasm. that statement makes me want to run outside and kick someone in the shins:devil:

and then run really fast away:ph34r:

Modifié par ghost9191, 07 septembre 2012 - 09:25 .


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AresKeith wrote...

he's not commenting on the topic of DLCs, but he also said its not gonna be after which means no post-ending DLC. I showed you the proof

Again not commenting on the topic is netither confirming nor denying post-ending DLC just like what happened with the IT. 

AresKeith wrote... 

Yes there is something wrong with that in a Video Game, if this was suppose to be the end of Shepard's story

How is that when Shepard's story arc will be done in ME3 while he/she will be talked about afterwards shown from the Stargazer scene.

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EJ107 wrote...

Multiplayer should not have more of an impact on your EMS than your in-game decisions. If you have no idea how the system works it looks like you need to play multiplayer to "get the galaxy ready" and get a good ending-even if you don't. It gave the illusion that without multiplayer you would fail, and made the player feel pressured into playing it to get the single player outcome they want, even if they do not enjoy the multiplayer.

Multiplayer should not have had such a large impact on the single player game- or any impact at all.

Again few MP matches isn't going to hurt anyone even when gettng the Highest EMS is still optional.

EJ107 wrote... 

There is when you play hours of multiplayer thinking that you need to to get a good ending, and all you get is a five second scene added on to the standard rubbish ending. Not only was it one of the worst endings to a game I've ever seen but I'd wasted hours playing the multiplayer that I didn't particuarly like for an incredibly breif scene that only gave me more questions and even less closure.

You act as if there's no good ending even when whether was good or bad is based on your own opinion.

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wright1978 wrote...

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Nope EC delivered its own epilogue sequences.

Again the Epilogue is the Stargazer scene and the EC extended the endings.

http://dictionary.re...se/epilogue?s=t 


a speech, usually in verse, delivered by one of the actors after the conclusion of a play.

Ahh so Hackett, Shep Ai and EDI don't do this.

a concluding part added to a literary work, as a novel.

Clips of the galaxy rebuilding over hundred of years don't do this.

The Epilogue in ME3 is the Stargazer and its the definition of an epilogue.

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Blueprotoss wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

he's not commenting on the topic of DLCs, but he also said its not gonna be after which means no post-ending DLC. I showed you the proof

Again not commenting on the topic is netither confirming nor denying post-ending DLC just like what happened with the IT. 


did you even watch the video, he said not after

Blueprotoss wrote...

AresKeith wrote... 

Yes there is something wrong with that in a Video Game, if this was suppose to be the end of Shepard's story

How is that when Shepard's story arc will be done in ME3 while he/she will be talked about afterwards shown from the Stargazer scene.


that doesn't mean Shepard lived or died, try again

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ShepnTali wrote...

Dubozz wrote...

ShepnTali wrote...

Bioware says no post breath DLC. Merizan was pretty definitive on that.

Yeah sure, there is a thread over there about "what did Bioware said about me3 prerelease"
My favourite are: 

“[The presence of the Rachni] has huge consequences in Mass
Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers.” 

and

“For people who are invested in these characters and the back-story of the
universe and everything, all of these things come to a resolution in
Mass Effect 3. And they are resolved in a way that's very different
based on what you would do in those situations.”


That's fine, but blueprotoss claims there are no, no post ending DLC statements.

Post-ending DLC isn't ending DLC.  The only confirmed DLC that won't be done for ME3 is ending DLC.

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AresKeith wrote...

did you even watch the video, he said not after

Not commenting on is not a no.

AresKeith wrote... 

that doesn't mean Shepard lived or died, try again

Yet the scene wouldn't be labeled as "Sheard Lives".

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 07 septembre 2012 - 09:38 .


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Blueprotoss wrote...

ShepnTali wrote...

Dubozz wrote...

ShepnTali wrote...

Bioware says no post breath DLC. Merizan was pretty definitive on that.

Yeah sure, there is a thread over there about "what did Bioware said about me3 prerelease"
My favourite are: 

“[The presence of the Rachni] has huge consequences in Mass
Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers.” 

and

“For people who are invested in these characters and the back-story of the
universe and everything, all of these things come to a resolution in
Mass Effect 3. And they are resolved in a way that's very different
based on what you would do in those situations.”


That's fine, but blueprotoss claims there are no, no post ending DLC statements.

Post-ending DLC isn't ending DLC.  The only confirmed DLC that won't be done for ME3 is ending DLC.


No. Read it again.

#134
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Blueprotoss wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

Nope EC delivered its own epilogue sequences.

Again the Epilogue is the Stargazer scene and the EC extended the endings.

http://dictionary.re...se/epilogue?s=t 


a speech, usually in verse, delivered by one of the actors after the conclusion of a play.

Ahh so Hackett, Shep Ai and EDI don't do this.

a concluding part added to a literary work, as a novel.

Clips of the galaxy rebuilding over hundred of years don't do this.

The Epilogue in ME3 is the Stargazer and its the definition of an epilogue.


Nope it is not and i've just explained why the link you submitted supports my argument. UnYou need to supply evidence why the epilogue sequences added in EC are not an epilogue if that's the argument you are trying to make.

From official announcement of EC

The Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut DLC is a downloadable content pack that will expand upon the events at the end of Mass Effect 3. Through additional cinematic sequences and epilogue scenes, the Extended Cut will include deeper insight to Commander Shepard's journey based on player choices during the war against the Reapers.

Modifié par wright1978, 07 septembre 2012 - 09:40 .


#135
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Because they hate Shepard, and he's not a popular character.

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Blueprotoss wrote...

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did you even watch the video, he said not after

Not commenting on is not a no.


how about you stop straw-manning, and watch it again were he says "Obviously I can say it won't be after"

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wright1978 wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

Nope EC delivered its own epilogue sequences.

Again the Epilogue is the Stargazer scene and the EC extended the endings.

http://dictionary.re...se/epilogue?s=t 


a speech, usually in verse, delivered by one of the actors after the conclusion of a play.

Ahh so Hackett, Shep Ai and EDI don't do this.

a concluding part added to a literary work, as a novel.

Clips of the galaxy rebuilding over hundred of years don't do this.

The Epilogue in ME3 is the Stargazer and its the definition of an epilogue.


Nope it is not and i've just explained why the link you submitted supports my argument. UnYou need to supply evidence why the epilogue sequences added in EC are not an epilogue if that's the argument you are trying to make.

From official announcement of EC

The Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut DLC is a downloadable content pack that will expand upon the events at the end of Mass Effect 3. Through additional cinematic sequences and epilogue scenes, the Extended Cut will include deeper insight to Commander Shepard's journey based on player choices during the war against the Reapers.

I guess some people still resort to taking Bioware quotes out of context.

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AresKeith wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

did you even watch the video, he said not after

Not commenting on is not a no.


how about you stop straw-manning, and watch it again were he says "Obviously I can say it won't be after"

How is that a straw-mann when I used your evidence against yourself.  Not commenting is still not a no.

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Blueprotoss wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

Nope EC delivered its own epilogue sequences.

Again the Epilogue is the Stargazer scene and the EC extended the endings.

http://dictionary.re...se/epilogue?s=t 


a speech, usually in verse, delivered by one of the actors after the conclusion of a play.

Ahh so Hackett, Shep Ai and EDI don't do this.

a concluding part added to a literary work, as a novel.

Clips of the galaxy rebuilding over hundred of years don't do this.

The Epilogue in ME3 is the Stargazer and its the definition of an epilogue.


Nope it is not and i've just explained why the link you submitted supports my argument. UnYou need to supply evidence why the epilogue sequences added in EC are not an epilogue if that's the argument you are trying to make.

From official announcement of EC

The Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut DLC is a downloadable content pack that will expand upon the events at the end of Mass Effect 3. Through additional cinematic sequences and epilogue scenes, the Extended Cut will include deeper insight to Commander Shepard's journey based on player choices during the war against the Reapers.

I guess some people still resort to taking Bioware quotes out of context.


Please tell me how quoting Chris Priestly's announcement of EC is taking it out of context.

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[/quote]There's nothing wrong with an easter egg ending.


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The Avengers eating shaorma is an easter egg.

Protagonist of the game, presumed dead but turning out to be alive is not an easter egg.

#141
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You're supposed to make your own closure.

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wright1978 wrote...

Please tell me how quoting Chris Priestly's announcement of EC is taking it out of context.

The whole thing based on how the Stargazer scene is the Epilogue and the epilogues that he mentions are explainations of the endings.

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Blueprotoss wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

how about you stop straw-manning, and watch it again were he says "Obviously I can say it won't be after"

How is that a straw-mann when I used your evidence against yourself.  Not commenting is still not a no.


because your not using my evidence against me, your failing at it. Mac say he's not commenting on DLCs, but specificly said no DLCs after the ending which means no Post-ending DLCs after ME3 because Shepard is dead. Now I gave you the proof but once again you refuse to admit it

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Eterna5 wrote...

You're supposed to make your own closure.


omg totally forgot that is what i paid for<_<

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Pitznik wrote...

The Avengers eating shaorma is an easter egg.

Protagonist of the game, presumed dead but turning out to be alive is not an easter egg.

There is nothing wrong with an Easter egg just like how the Shepard Lives and Refusal are similar to the Silent Hill UFO and Dog endings.  An example of an easter egg in a movie would be Captain America's shield shown on Tony's desk at the end of Iron Man.

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ghost9191 wrote...

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You're supposed to make your own closure.


omg totally forgot that is what i paid for<_<


It's open ended so whatever you want to have happen afterwards is true. You destroyed the reapers and now anything you want happens after. 

Why is this bad?

Modifié par Eterna5, 07 septembre 2012 - 09:54 .


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Blueprotoss wrote...

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Please tell me how quoting Chris Priestly's announcement of EC is taking it out of context.

The whole thing based on how the Stargazer scene is the Epilogue and the epilogues that he mentions are explainations of the endings.


well we;ll husthave to disagree then as the things he calls epilogues resemeble what i consider an epilogue to be far more than the stargazer scene.

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because your not using my evidence against me, your failing at it. Mac say he's not commenting on DLCs, but specificly said no DLCs after the ending which means no Post-ending DLCs after ME3 because Shepard is dead. Now I gave you the proof but once again you refuse to admit it

Yet I did use you own evidence against yourself and not commenting is still not a no.

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wright1978 wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

Please tell me how quoting Chris Priestly's announcement of EC is taking it out of context.

The whole thing based on how the Stargazer scene is the Epilogue and the epilogues that he mentions are explainations of the endings.


well we;ll husthave to disagree then as the things he calls epilogues resemeble what i consider an epilogue to be far more than the stargazer scene.

Thats fine.  The Epilogue appears at the end which its the last scene in a movie/game or the last chapter in a novel/comic, which the Stargazer scene would fall under.  You could say that every Halo game has an Epilogue at the end of the credits whether or not you play it on Legendary.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 07 septembre 2012 - 09:58 .


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Blueprotoss wrote...

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because your not using my evidence against me, your failing at it. Mac say he's not commenting on DLCs, but specificly said no DLCs after the ending which means no Post-ending DLCs after ME3 because Shepard is dead. Now I gave you the proof but once again you refuse to admit it

Yet I did use you own evidence against yourself and not commenting is still not a no.


sure, whatever helps your egoImage IPB