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Why was closure not given to shepard in destroy but only implications where dead shepard gets closure in the other endings


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LiarasShield wrote...

darkway1 wrote...

Speculation,speculation and more speculation........why can't Bioware just step forward and address the issue with a simple answer.......Shepard's dead or Shepard's alive and put an end to all the needless rants with in the community.


Just why not show just a tiny bit more so we don't have to keep killing each other over speculation?


Is that a confession? 

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MegaSovereign wrote...


Sword fleet and most of the Alliance left the Sol system.

Make the search team be whats left of Hammer squad. Or Major Coates since we know he is still alive and on Earth.

If they didn't leave through the relay (which isn't shown), they can easily come back. That is actually the first thing they would do.

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I sincerely hope that BioWare do not add any additional closure to any of the endings. The original breath scene has already been devalued by the official Twitter explanations.

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MegaSovereign wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

darkway1 wrote...

Speculation,speculation and more speculation........why can't Bioware just step forward and address the issue with a simple answer.......Shepard's dead or Shepard's alive and put an end to all the needless rants with in the community.


Just why not show just a tiny bit more so we don't have to keep killing each other over speculation?


Is that a confession? 


no not really if shepard really does survive why couldn't they show us how or give us more closure for him or her to live don't you think the little breath scene and cut off is really not enough after all we have been through with our main protagonist

I mean do you end lord of the rings with saying yeah aragon became king and alot other stuff happended cliff hanger cut off not knowing what happend to everyone else do you think that would've been ok?

Or how about star wars luke goes to the death star cut off he probably blows up the death star but you never see it and alot other stuff happens and he may open up a jedi academy do you think cliff hangers for major power stories like these would be ok?

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Just seems to me that Fans of Mass are taking all the flack for stirring up trouble......all of which could be silenced via a few simple answers from Bioware.

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Pitznik wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...


Sword fleet and most of the Alliance left the Sol system.

Make the search team be whats left of Hammer squad. Or Major Coates since we know he is still alive and on Earth.

If they didn't leave through the relay (which isn't shown), they can easily come back. That is actually the first thing they would do.


That would take some time no? It'd be much more convenient if Major Coates just used the beam on London to go up and help Shepard up.

Plus the guy needs a larger role anyway.

Modifié par MegaSovereign, 08 septembre 2012 - 03:43 .


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darkway1 wrote...

Just seems to me that Fans of Mass are taking all the flack for stirring up trouble......all of which could be silenced via a few simple answers from Bioware.


Just a few extra lines or a extra cutscene or even a slide of shepard being digged out or showing shepard standing up is all it would take

Modifié par LiarasShield, 08 septembre 2012 - 03:53 .


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LiarasShield wrote...

Just why you give closure to all the other endings where shepard dies

But the one ending where shepard lives and you can't show more of shepard being alive or have a team digging shepard out of the rubble or at least have the normandy be called so that they can pick up him or her

Is this really unreasonable for those of us who came to care about shepard for 5 years?

I mean unless me3 is not truely the end to his or her story why so little closure for the high ems destroy ending?

Inquiring minds want to know!

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I mean I would almost pay any amount of money for real closure in the destroy ending

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Wouldn't say any any amount, but a satisfactory ending would make me receptive towards buying other DLC. Right now there' s no reason to at all

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iakus wrote...

Wouldn't say any any amount, but a satisfactory ending would make me receptive towards buying other DLC. Right now there' s no reason to at all


Well I would pay any amount because that is how important shepard is to me as a character

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iakus wrote...

Wouldn't say any any amount, but a satisfactory ending would make me receptive towards buying other DLC. Right now there' s no reason to at all


But I'm glad you care alot though iakus

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At this year's Comic Con, Slyvia Feketekuty stated that the final "breathe" scene was essentially an afterthought to give players a sense of "hope".  They also explain why the scene was left ambiguous.  (skip to 47:43 for the curious)

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JamieCOTC wrote...

At this year's Comic Con, Slyvia Feketekuty stated that the final "breathe" scene was essentially an afterthought to give players a sense of "hope".  They also explain why the scene was left ambiguous.  (skip to 47:43 for the curious)



I hope they choose to one day not make it so vague

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well if bioware ever does wanna give shepard more closure they can surely have my money at that time

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JamieCOTC wrote...

At this year's Comic Con, Slyvia Feketekuty stated that the final "breathe" scene was essentially an afterthought to give players a sense of "hope".  They also explain why the scene was left ambiguous.  (skip to 47:43 for the curious)


Having it as an afterthought in the original endings i can understand given the original endings explain nothing.
Having them cling to their ambiguity blanket and stir regarding it being a last gasp is just utterly cheap and nasty.

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LiarasShield wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...

At this year's Comic Con, Slyvia Feketekuty stated that the final "breathe" scene was essentially an afterthought to give players a sense of "hope".  They also explain why the scene was left ambiguous.  (skip to 47:43 for the curious)



I hope they choose to one day not make it so vague


+1

Don't want hope, want certainty.  I want to know Shepard will live in the universe he/she made, for better or for worse.

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Pitznik wrote...

Ok, you simply don't know what an easter egg is.

Yet you're the one who doesn't know not me.

Pitznik wrote... 

There is no need whatsoever to tie the endings together, each one can be different, just like in ME3. Shepard doesn't die in HEMSD, there is no canon. You can't use circular logic to prove it - or, you can, if you wish to look stupid.

Video games must not be your ting when they have multiple endings because they will always have some strings that tie them together.

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LiarasShield wrote...

darkway1 wrote...

Speculation,speculation and more speculation........why can't Bioware just step forward and address the issue with a simple answer.......Shepard's dead or Shepard's alive and put an end to all the needless rants with in the community.


Just why not show just a tiny bit more so we don't have to keep killing each other over speculation?

Because everyone won't get what they want and thats the cycle of life.

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Pitznik wrote...

Hmm. My idea: human fully customizable Shepard is difficult to put in any form of pre-rendered video or even slides - different face, different LI. He would have to wear a helm all the time, or it would have to be some real time rendered cutscene, which usually doesn't give that really cinematic feel to it...

...but that is awfully weak explanation, tbh.

we could of had a DA:o epilouge or have the charaters in black like in neverwinter nights 2

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Blueprotoss wrote...

Pitznik wrote...

Ok, you simply don't know what an easter egg is.

Yet you're the one who doesn't know not me.

Pitznik wrote... 

There is no need whatsoever to tie the endings together, each one can be different, just like in ME3. Shepard doesn't die in HEMSD, there is no canon. You can't use circular logic to prove it - or, you can, if you wish to look stupid.

Video games must not be your ting when they have multiple endings because they will always have some strings that tie them together.

Blueprotoss' attempt at logic:

- Shepard's survival in HEMSD must be an easter egg, because it breaks canon otherwise
- existence of canon is proven by Shepard's death in every ending

Bravo! Blueprotoss is ridiculous, because I wouldn't call him that, if he weren't ridiculous.

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Told ya

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I used too belive Shepard died in Destroy aswell.

Problem i had was in one scene the citadel is seen blowing apart in space, but then in the EC epilogue its shown floating in space, damage but intact. Then you see your "LI" hesitating with the name plate, and the breather scene follows.

On top of that i just found this quote:
This is meant to suggest that the love interest is not ready to believe Shepard is dead, and the final scene reveals they are correct.
http://social.biowar...758618#12758842

So yeah, Destroy get closure in that way. You just gotta, u know... Speculate on what happens next. :lol:

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Pitznik wrote...

Blueprotoss' attempt at logic:

- Shepard's survival in HEMSD must be an easter egg, because it breaks canon otherwise
- existence of canon is proven by Shepard's death in every ending

Bravo! Blueprotoss is ridiculous, because I wouldn't call him that, if he weren't ridiculous.

I see that logic isn't your friend  because you have to flip the table when you're wrong.  Either way Shepard dies in one way or another in every ending and most of the easter eggs require work like having high enough EMS to see Shepard breathing after picking Destroy.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 08 septembre 2012 - 09:01 .