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[DHKany]

Rokayt wrote...

DHKany wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

DHKany wrote...

60 maybe? 

Divide 100RPM by sixty.
Multiply this by sixty damage.
Multiply this by eight pellets.

800 DPS again? Really?

Yes. Really. 

At least think of something clever to mask the fact from me.

I unno..

Do you like Paninis? I do. 

I LOVE PANINIS. 


NOW YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN THE 800 DPS.
ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL 

[Rokayt]

Pancakes71 wrote...

For the Scimitar to be a good gun you need like 100% damage buff and that isn't going to happen. Better off with a new, shiny elite version of the Scimitar, with new sound and new look.

So.... It needs to be the harrier to be OK?

590X2=1180.

Or.... It would be another Harrier.

Why do people say "WE NEED 100% BUFFS ALL OVER THIS," to every gun?

Modifié par Rokayt, 07 septembre 2012 - 11:32 .

[DHKany]

Rokayt wrote...

Pancakes71 wrote...

For the Scimitar to be a good gun you need like 100% damage buff and that isn't going to happen. Better off with a new, shiny elite version of the Scimitar, with new sound and new look.

So.... It needs to be the harrier to be OK?

590X2=1180.

Or.... It would be another Harrier.

Why do people say "WE NEED 100% BUFFS ALL OVER THIS," to every gun?

Because 100% is the magic number/ 

[Rokayt]

People wonder why I act like I am so smart sometimes....

[Kenadian]

Rokayt wrote...

Pancakes71 wrote...

For the Scimitar to be a good gun you need like 100% damage buff and that isn't going to happen. Better off with a new, shiny elite version of the Scimitar, with new sound and new look.

So.... It needs to be the harrier to be OK?

590X2=1180.

Or.... It would be another Harrier.

Why do people say "WE NEED 100% BUFFS ALL OVER THIS," to every gun?

Because buff all the things.

Also, this gun, when used on a Destroyer, is good fun. The firing animation for it repeating over and over really fast is...silly, to watch.

[Grunt_Platform]

Increase damage about 13% ([39.9-50] damage per pellet), and increase fire rate by 20% (to 120)... Well within the limits of a single week of changes.

Simple DPS of 800, sustained DPS of 476.2~616.47 (depending on reload canceling).

Modifié par EvanKester, 07 septembre 2012 - 11:38 .

[Rokayt]

Kenadian wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Pancakes71 wrote...

For the Scimitar to be a good gun you need like 100% damage buff and that isn't going to happen. Better off with a new, shiny elite version of the Scimitar, with new sound and new look.

So.... It needs to be the harrier to be OK?

590X2=1180.

Or.... It would be another Harrier.

Why do people say "WE NEED 100% BUFFS ALL OVER THIS," to every gun?

Because buff all the things.

Also, this gun, when used on a Destroyer, is good fun. The firing animation for it repeating over and over really fast is...silly, to watch.

Posts like that one..... (Not yours.)

Make me wonder why I try to explain things around here.

Modifié par Rokayt, 07 septembre 2012 - 11:39 .

[Pancakes71]

Rokayt wrote...

Posts like that one..... (Not yours.)

Make me wonder why I try to explain things around here.

It was a hyperbole.

[Rokayt]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

DHKany wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Oh another one of these threads.

Your Avatar is win.

But this thread is made from the deepest wells of love in my heart. 

FOR THE SCIMITARRR!

Sorry if I seemed rude... I just can't really understand threads like this and Rokayt's. The Locust sucks so nobody uses it, it deserves a buff. However, guns like the Scimitar and Raptor arguably have their niches (the Raptor is open to debate), but the Scimitar has its niche. At very WORST you can use these weapons before you get the rare/UR counterparts which make them redundant. IMO that's how the system should work. Once you get the rares/UR's you should not be torn between using them or using an uncommon.

It really seems that power progression was designed around you having better guns, and consummables then a lower level player.........

I mean, Why else would level 4 ammos be twice as strong as level 3's?

It shows much better game design then having obsolete teirs of weaponry. Because all weaponry becomes stronger when you hit the next tier, while not locking out any stratagies and niches at all.

Modifié par Rokayt, 07 septembre 2012 - 11:46 .

[DHKany]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

DHKany wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Oh another one of these threads.

Your Avatar is win.

But this thread is made from the deepest wells of love in my heart. 

FOR THE SCIMITARRR!

Sorry if I seemed rude... I just can't really understand threads like this and Rokayt's. The Locust sucks so nobody uses it, it deserves a buff. However, guns like the Scimitar and Raptor arguably have their niches (the Raptor is open to debate), but the Scimitar has its niche. At very WORST you can use these weapons before you get the rare/UR counterparts which make them redundant. IMO that's how the system should work. Once you get the rares/UR's you should not be torn between using them or using an uncommon.

so you're saying that 16 weapons should be useless?

[Rokayt]

Its better then wasting forum space being a Grammar ****.

Its better then mixing photo-realistic images with drawings in a JPG. (HOW COULD YOU.)

Its better then posting on issues you don't really care about.

(Notice the intentionally used thens.)

[Rokayt]

Except that unlocking higher tier items gives you better consumables as a byproduct.

Thus, you are still stronger, Just stronger with ALL The guns, and not some of them.

[Grunt_Platform]

Regardless of whether uncommon guns are supposed to become useless when you get higher level weapons (the Mattock wants a word with you), the Scimitar is just a different weapon from the Piranha, and every other Shotgun. By those merits alone, it deserves to dish out enough damage to be worth using.

As it is, it's rapidly outpaced even by other uncommons. The Phalanx has almost a third of the Scimitar's weight, better accuracy, better rate of fire, and better DPS. And pistols have better mod options than shotguns too.

Modifié par EvanKester, 07 septembre 2012 - 11:58 .

[Rokayt]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Except that unlocking higher tier items gives you better consumables as a byproduct.

Thus, you are still stronger, Just stronger with ALL The guns, and not some of them.

And? I don't get your point here.

Ascending in weapons teirs does make you statistically stronger.

Its just that its with all weapons, and not just two or three weapons.

Ultimately, Its a billion times better then obsoleting everything from the last tier.

[Cyonan]

Lord_Sirian wrote...
To me it seems like starting a game of Dragon Age Origins, getting to the end and going "hang on wait, why does my super enchanted ridiculous sword of Uberness make my Grey Iron Dagger completely redundant?! ZOMG! Power creep!"

In Dragon Age weapons of the same class don't function any different. Your super enchanted ridiculous sword of uberness functions in the same way that any other lesser sword does only that it makes a bigger number appear above your target's head.

In Mass Effect 3, there is no gun that is identical to the Scimitar in every way except damage per shot.

[Rokayt]

If it were still mass effect 1's gun system, it would be totally correct for endgame weapons to be better.

Except that this isn't mass effect 1 anymore.

There is more then 4 guns.

[Pancakes71]

How about 20% dmg buff and pancakes for everyone!

Now that I remember that Scimitar was supposed to be an elite military version of the Katana, it could use a slight buff. Predator has more DPS than this.

[Zkyire]

The problem isn't that the Scimitar sucks (it does tough) but that there's no Rare shotgun that bridges the gap between the Scimitar and the Piranha.

The Disciple doesn't count because it does even less damage.

Modifié par Zkyire, 08 septembre 2012 - 12:28 .

[Rokayt]

The Predator...

Is honestly the funniest thing in the game currently.

Zkyire wrote...

The problem isn't that the Scimitar sucks
(it does tough) but that there's no Rare shotgun that bridges the gap
between the Scimitar and the Piranha.

The Disciple doesn't count because it does even less damage.

The Disciple has the EXACT same DPS.

Modifié par Rokayt, 08 septembre 2012 - 12:29 .

[Zkyire]

Rokayt wrote...

The Predator...

Is honestly the funniest thing in the game currently.

Zkyire wrote...

The problem isn't that the Scimitar sucks
(it does tough) but that there's no Rare shotgun that bridges the gap
between the Scimitar and the Piranha.

The Disciple doesn't count because it does even less damage.

The Disciple has the EXACT same DPS.

It does? Mine's showing up as less damage per shot in the weapons menu.

[Rokayt]

Zkyire wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

The Predator...

Is honestly the funniest thing in the game currently.

Zkyire wrote...

The problem isn't that the Scimitar sucks
(it does tough) but that there's no Rare shotgun that bridges the gap
between the Scimitar and the Piranha.

The Disciple doesn't count because it does even less damage.

The Disciple has the EXACT same DPS.

It does? Mine's showing up as less damage per shot in the weapons menu.

Its damage per shot is higher, its rof lower.

Its DPS is 6 out of 580 DPS less.