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The M27 Scimitar: From Hero to Zero


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#76
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Rokayt wrote...

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Except that unlocking higher tier items gives you better consumables as a byproduct.

Thus, you are still stronger, Just stronger with ALL The guns, and not some of them.


And? I don't get your point here.


Ascending in weapons teirs does make you statistically stronger.

Its just that its with all weapons, and not just two or three weapons.

Ultimately, Its a billion times better then obsoleting everything from the last tier.


I'm still not getting your point... 

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To be honest, I get the sense that Bioware disliked everything about ME2. All the weapons introduced in ME2 are nearly worthless in ME3, with the exception of the Mattock and the Geth Plasma Shotgun. And in campaign, all the ME2 characters got the shaft as well.

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Except that unlocking higher tier items gives you better consumables as a byproduct.

Thus, you are still stronger, Just stronger with ALL The guns, and not some of them.


And? I don't get your point here.


Ascending in weapons teirs does make you statistically stronger.

Its just that its with all weapons, and not just two or three weapons.

Ultimately, Its a billion times better then obsoleting everything from the last tier.


I'm still not getting your point... 


You get gear that is 100% to 30% better then the last tier of gear when you start unlocking weapons of a new level.

This makes you almost 30-75% more effecive on the higher tiers of gear.

This totally obsoletes having better weapons entierly, as you can just make any weapon "Better" at higher tiers.

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Matthias King wrote...

To be honest, I get the sense that Bioware disliked everything about ME2. All the weapons introduced in ME2 are nearly worthless in ME3, with the exception of the Mattock and the Geth Plasma Shotgun. And in campaign, all the ME2 characters got the shaft as well.



Yeah..not even a nice cutscene on Rannoch for Kal'Reegar. Just a boring old email, with an offhand reference..

So I go into MP with my male quarians, slap on a Reegar Carbine and exact revenge.

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100% less accurate than the Piranha?

What the hell planet do you live on?!?

The Scimitar has literally 100% accuracy when used with a Geth, Destroyer, or Turian Soldier. Like really... it shoots basically one pellet it is so accurate.

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Drummernate wrote...

100% less accurate than the Piranha?

What the hell planet do you live on?!?

The Scimitar has literally 100% accuracy when used with a Geth, Destroyer, or Turian Soldier. Like really... it shoots basically one pellet it is so accurate.


I looked at the stat accuracy so bleh.

Every gun can get 100% (or close to) accuracy with those classes.

Even the Piranha. 

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DHKany wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

100% less accurate than the Piranha?

What the hell planet do you live on?!?

The Scimitar has literally 100% accuracy when used with a Geth, Destroyer, or Turian Soldier. Like really... it shoots basically one pellet it is so accurate.


I looked at the stat accuracy so bleh.

Every gun can get 100% (or close to) accuracy with those classes.

Even the Piranha. 


Not really.

The Piranha still has a clearly visible spread of about 6-8 inches in between the circle's radius even with Hunter Mode on.

The Scimitar on the other hand has a spread of maybe 1-2 inches at mid range.

Go ahead and try it.

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Drummernate wrote...

DHKany wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

100% less accurate than the Piranha?

What the hell planet do you live on?!?

The Scimitar has literally 100% accuracy when used with a Geth, Destroyer, or Turian Soldier. Like really... it shoots basically one pellet it is so accurate.


I looked at the stat accuracy so bleh.

Every gun can get 100% (or close to) accuracy with those classes.

Even the Piranha. 


Not really.

The Piranha still has a clearly visible spread of about 6-8 inches in between the circle's radius even with Hunter Mode on.

The Scimitar on the other hand has a spread of maybe 1-2 inches at mid range.

Go ahead and try it.


I can't :crying: am 5000 miles away from home.

But seriously, even if the Piranha misses 1 or 2 pellets, the ROF and the superior  damage per pellet still allow for a larger margin of error. 

Not to mention bad accuracy becomes irrelevant on the Turian Sol. 

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DHKany wrote...
I can't :crying: am 5000 miles away from home.

But seriously, even if the Piranha misses 1 or 2 pellets, the ROF and the superior  damage per pellet still allow for a larger margin of error. 

Not to mention bad accuracy becomes irrelevant on the Turian Sol. 

Except on the accuracy boosters, the Piranha's missing with way more than 1 or 2 pellets. With geth, turian soldier and destroyer, it will be hitting with most of its pellets though. Even with smart choke, it's just not physically possible for other classes to hit anything smaller than a Brute with all the pellets in a shot, except at extremely close ranges.

Still, you're right. It's 50% better rate of fire, and significantly higher damage per shot just... more than cover the difference. You don't need to hit with all its pellets to kill small guys quickly. It just has this strange effect where the gun can take just as long to kill an Assault Trooper as it takes to kill a Brute. It's bizarre, but it's still better than the Scimitar by a wide margin.

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I feel like people are recently discovering how underpowered some weapons are. Nobody listened when I pointed it out ages ago though. Here's hoping that this gets some attention though.

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Couldn't care less about the gun but maybe that's because of the things you mentioned.

Anyway, you have my support regardless.

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tntk252 wrote...

I feel like people are recently discovering how underpowered some weapons are. Nobody listened when I pointed it out ages ago though. Here's hoping that this gets some attention though.


Sorry man. Back then everybody thought things were pretty decent.

Then the Krysae/Reegar came
Then the Piranha came
and those weapons upped the ante in their respective categories by a huge margin. 

To the point where almost every other weapon in their categories became redundant compared to them.

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Blind2Society wrote...

Couldn't care less about the gun but maybe that's because of the things you mentioned.

Anyway, you have my support regardless.


I am confuseds? 

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Tallgeese_VII wrote...

I was going to try solo bronze with Destroyer with Scimitar just to see if it qualifies as poorman`s Piranha. It should be interesting.. at least..


Interesting.....
maybe
mediocre?
Yes. 

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DHKany wrote...

Blind2Society wrote...

Couldn't care less about the gun but maybe that's because of the things you mentioned.

Anyway, you have my support regardless.


I am confuseds? 


If the weapon was removed entirely I wouldn't blink an eye. Though, in hindsight, that may because it's terrible (the shortcomings you mentioned).

Modifié par Blind2Society, 08 septembre 2012 - 03:20 .


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Blind2Society wrote...

DHKany wrote...

Blind2Society wrote...

Couldn't care less about the gun but maybe that's because of the things you mentioned.

Anyway, you have my support regardless.


I am confuseds? 


If the weapon was removed entirely I wouldn't blink an eye. Though, in hindsight, that may because it's terrible.


Oh ok. 
But the Scimitar is need of love. 
True love. 

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Oh ok. 
But the Scimitar is need of love. 
True love. 


Which is why the second part of my post said you have my support (I agree). ;)

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Blind2Society wrote...

DHKany wrote...

Oh ok. 
But the Scimitar is need of love. 
True love. 


Which is why the second part of my post said you have my support (I agree). ;)


:o Too bad we don't have those awesome sigs tho.
Im too stupid to make them :bandit:

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DHKany wrote...

:o Too bad we don't have those awesome sigs tho.
Im too stupid to make them :bandit:


I could make you one. What would you like it to say? Would you like the design to differ from the raptor one? If so in what way? Details is all I need, just remember the BSN has terrible sig restrictions so there's not a lot of room.;)

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Blind2Society wrote...

DHKany wrote...

:o Too bad we don't have those awesome sigs tho.
Im too stupid to make them :bandit:


I could make you one. What would you like it to say? Would you like the design to differ from the raptor one? If so in what way? Details is all I need, just remember the BSN has terrible sig restrictions so there's not a lot of room.;)


Maybe something along the lines of
The Scimitar needs it's edge back and it would have the gun along with maybe the sword in fancy writing.
A bit different, but whatever is comfortable for you! 

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I can give it a shot.

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WAIT, A COMMON WEAPON DOES ****** POOR DAMAGE WHO WOULD OF THOUGHT

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DatFeel wrote...

WAIT, AN  UNCOMMON WEAPON DOES ****** POOR DAMAGE WHO WOULD OF THOUGHT


WAY TO CONTRBUTE MAN.

ALL CAPS. 

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Blind2Society wrote...

I can give it a shot.


thanks 

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DatFeel wrote...

WAIT, A COMMON WEAPON DOES ****** POOR DAMAGE WHO WOULD OF THOUGHT


WAIT, AN IDIOT WHO DOESN'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND ANYTHING? WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT?