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[DatFeel]

tntk252 wrote...

DatFeel wrote...

WAIT, A COMMON WEAPON DOES ****** POOR DAMAGE WHO WOULD OF THOUGHT

WAIT, AN IDIOT WHO DOESN'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND ANYTHING? WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT?

Judgeing by your signature, it appears I may have offended you. CRAPPY WEAPON FAN CLUB

[DHKany]

DatFeel wrote...

tntk252 wrote...

DatFeel wrote...

WAIT, A COMMON WEAPON DOES ****** POOR DAMAGE WHO WOULD OF THOUGHT

WAIT, AN IDIOT WHO DOESN'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND ANYTHING? WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT?

Judgeing by your signature, it appears I may have offended you. CRAPPY WEAPON FAN CLUB

Mad? Seriously, if you can't contribute you can bug off. 

[Drummernate]

DatFeel wrote...

tntk252 wrote...

DatFeel wrote...

WAIT, A COMMON WEAPON DOES ****** POOR DAMAGE WHO WOULD OF THOUGHT

WAIT, AN IDIOT WHO DOESN'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND ANYTHING? WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT?

Judgeing by your signature, it appears I may have offended you. CRAPPY WEAPON FAN CLUB

Judging by your lack of proper spelling...

[DatFeel]

Drummernate wrote...

DatFeel wrote...

tntk252 wrote...

DatFeel wrote...

WAIT, A COMMON WEAPON DOES ****** POOR DAMAGE WHO WOULD OF THOUGHT

WAIT, AN IDIOT WHO DOESN'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND ANYTHING? WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT?

Judgeing by your signature, it appears I may have offended you. CRAPPY WEAPON FAN CLUB

Judging by your lack of proper spelling...

Dear god, that's the best you can come up with? Pathetic.

I don't understand you people, what do you want from Common/Uncommon weapons? For them to be buffed? Like the Locust... that still sucks?

[Outlawstar15a2]

DHKany wrote...

By far my most used and my favorite weapon available in ME2. It had the highest DPS available (at least shotgun wise) and it was just fantastic on CQC characters. 
Unsuprisingly I was very excited when I saw the Scimitar for the first time in my Veteran Pack. 
Eagerly, I put it on my Vanguard and proceeded to a Silver match...... and was very disappointed.

It was mediocre vs ground troops and did nothing vs bosses. Not to mention its terrible accuracy and its completely inferior damage vs every other shotgun in the game. 

It's only saving grace from being utterly trash was the ROF which made it 4th last in terms of DPS in the shotgun. 

But it still had it's niche as being the shotgun with the highest ROF and the highest Capacity....... until the Piranha came along. 

A shotgun which does 26 points more damage at I compared to the Scimitar X per pellet. Not to mention its 50% higher firerate, 100% more accuracy (STATS BAR. I know it isn't correct but still) , superior capacity etc. etc.

At this point the Scimitar went from limited niche, into the trash can of shame where the Raptor, Incisor, GPR and many other weapons are right now. 


I loved this gun in ME2 and I want to love it in ME3, but it's impossible now.

So many buffs are needed for this gun to even compare to the Piranha, let alone any shotgun, because as of right now it is semi decent at best. 

But for starters, a ROF increase to make it have the highest ROF shotgun in the game would be a good start. 

EDIT: Creds to Cyonan's Weapons Spreadsheet. Some good stuff. 

I'm surprised you compared it's ME2 singleplayer incarnation to ME3's multiplayer incarnation.... Very interesting. Why not compare it to ME3 singleplayer? It is much better there.

Multiplayer will always be balanced differently from singleplayer yoru first mistake was comparing a weapon from singleplayer and multiplayer.

[DHKany]

DatFeel wrote...

Dear god, that's the best you can come up with? Pathetic.

I don't understand you people, what do you want from Common/Uncommon weapons? For them to be buffed? Like the Locust... that still sucks?

Well he pointed out a mistake and you are pretty buttclenched about it now.

Yes I want some uncommon weapons buffed. Why? Because of their status.

At least I'm not asking a nerf on your win cannon or anything.

[DHKany]

Outlawstar15a2 wrote...

DHKany wrote...

By far my most used and my favorite weapon available in ME2. It had the highest DPS available (at least shotgun wise) and it was just fantastic on CQC characters. 
Unsuprisingly I was very excited when I saw the Scimitar for the first time in my Veteran Pack. 
Eagerly, I put it on my Vanguard and proceeded to a Silver match...... and was very disappointed.

It was mediocre vs ground troops and did nothing vs bosses. Not to mention its terrible accuracy and its completely inferior damage vs every other shotgun in the game. 

It's only saving grace from being utterly trash was the ROF which made it 4th last in terms of DPS in the shotgun. 

But it still had it's niche as being the shotgun with the highest ROF and the highest Capacity....... until the Piranha came along. 

A shotgun which does 26 points more damage at I compared to the Scimitar X per pellet. Not to mention its 50% higher firerate, 100% more accuracy (STATS BAR. I know it isn't correct but still) , superior capacity etc. etc.

At this point the Scimitar went from limited niche, into the trash can of shame where the Raptor, Incisor, GPR and many other weapons are right now. 


I loved this gun in ME2 and I want to love it in ME3, but it's impossible now.

So many buffs are needed for this gun to even compare to the Piranha, let alone any shotgun, because as of right now it is semi decent at best. 

But for starters, a ROF increase to make it have the highest ROF shotgun in the game would be a good start. 

EDIT: Creds to Cyonan's Weapons Spreadsheet. Some good stuff. 

I'm surprised you compared it's ME2 singleplayer incarnation to ME3's multiplayer incarnation.... Very interesting. Why not compare it to ME3 singleplayer? It is much better there.

Multiplayer will always be balanced differently from singleplayer yoru first mistake was comparing a weapon from singleplayer and multiplayer.

In single player Insanity is only a bit more than Silver. 

And even in SP the Scimitar is just no. 

[Blind2Society]

This is the internet, those type of people are everywhere. Best thing to do is ignore them and they will eventually crawl back under their bridge.

[DatFeel]

I most certainly am.

How much do you want them to be buffed? Like the Locust? Or buffed past rares/ultra rares?

What exactly is my win cannon?

[Drummernate]

The Phalanx is actually REALLY good for being a uncommon.

I actually prefer it to the Carnifex to be honest.

If I am not using my Talon, you will see the Phalanx at my side.

[Ace 0666]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

DHKany wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

DHKany wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Oh another one of these threads.

Your Avatar is win.

But this thread is made from the deepest wells of love in my heart. 

FOR THE SCIMITARRR!

Sorry if I seemed rude... I just can't really understand threads like this and Rokayt's. The Locust sucks so nobody uses it, it deserves a buff. However, guns like the Scimitar and Raptor arguably have their niches (the Raptor is open to debate), but the Scimitar has its niche. At very WORST you can use these weapons before you get the rare/UR counterparts which make them redundant. IMO that's how the system should work. Once you get the rares/UR's you should not be torn between using them or using an uncommon.

so you're saying that 16 weapons should be useless?

Uselessness is a subjective term. But if by useless you mean 'higher tier weapons can do what they can do much better' then yes. Yes they should most definitely, ONCE you unlock the higher tier weapons.

You just used then instead of than. Didn't you just make a point of that? Also, I believe your punctuation may be off for the rest of the reply. It seems to have the flow of a run on sentence regardless of your periods.

Back on topic: Yes, the Scimitar should be buffed. But I would prefere something more unique, rather than just numerical buffs. Most of the buffs proposed only make it better at feeling like a gun we already have, the Piranha. I realize, of course, the Scimitar came before the Piranha but I don't think they'd change the characteristics of a gun from the latest DLC. They probably wont change any guns characteristics, anyway. Someone else said damage buff, higher clip capacity, and full auto? I was thinking the same thing. Like I said, I doubt it would happen. Much more work to put into a gun most people already have than BW would probably want to do. So percentage buffs are probably all we can hope for. 

[Zjarcal]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

To me it seems like starting a game of Dragon Age Origins, getting to the end and going "hang on wait, why does my super enchanted ridiculous sword of Uberness make my Grey Iron Dagger completely redundant?! ZOMG! Power creep!"

The DA:O system is COMPLETELY different to ME3's system. You will NEVER get the sword of Uberness while you're at level 1 and just starting the game. Nevermind that with that system you won't be unlocking multiple upgrades of the same weapon.

In ME3 MP it's perfectly possible to unlock an Ultra Rare before you even have a Uncommon weapon. Jeez, even in SP, you unlock many of the weapons that are ultra rare in MP way before some of the uncommon ones (Talon can be unlocked during the Coup, while the Locust can only be unlocked till Horizon).

If the system actually inteded for Ultra Rares to render all Uncommons or Rares obsolete, the way it works right now would be completely wrong. Except... the system doesn't intend for URs to render all other weapons obsolete, if that were the case you wouldn't see people using the Claymore over the Wraith. Ultra Rares are meant to be different and more powerful in many ways, but with some caveats that still make the more common weapons desirable in specific situations.

Bottom line is, in a game where every weapon is potentially available to you right from the start (as opposed to a system that progressively gives you better and better stuff), and one that will continue to give you upgrades for "lesser" weapons even if you have "better" ones maxed, the "lesser" weapons should have some sort of relevance in the endgame metagame. 

The Mattock will always be my gold standard for what Uncommon weapons should be, and how they can remain relevant even when you have unlocked the more Rare weapons.

No one is asking for Uncommons to be better than Rares or Ultra Rares, we're just asking for them to have some sort of relevance once we have everything unlocked.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 08 septembre 2012 - 04:07 .

[DatFeel]

Drummernate wrote...

The Phalanx is actually REALLY good for being a uncommon.

I actually prefer it to the Carnifex to be honest.

If I am not using my Talon, you will see the Phalanx at my side.

Scorpion, Paladin, Talon, Acolyte, Carnifex are all better. Although, if it's your personal preference, as long as you're good with it, you can use the Predator for all I care.

[Rokayt]

The Predator does 600 DPS while being the lightest weapon in the game.
If someone was sufficiently versed in its use, they could give you a run for your money with it given you were using half the weapons in the game...

Modifié par Rokayt, 08 septembre 2012 - 04:10 .

[DatFeel]

Rokayt wrote...

The Predator does 600 DPS while being the lightest weapon in the game.

Luckily, you can get other weapons that are at 200 percent cooldown that are infinitely better. I don't see your point. I'm not Ashen Earth, or RedJohn or one of the "famous" posters here either, I don't claim to be an expert at this game (i'm not), but I'm pretty sure "DPS" isn't exactely the best thing to go off of, either.

edit: Although to be fair, If I could go back, I'd use something like a near max Predator, over something like a level 2 Carnifex when I first started out. But how was a little nublet to know any better?

Modifié par DatFeel, 08 septembre 2012 - 04:12 .

[Rokayt]

DatFeel wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

The Predator does 600 DPS while being the lightest weapon in the game.

Luckily, you can get other weapons that are at 200 percent cooldown that are infinitely better. I don't see your point. I'm not Ashen Earth, or RedJohn or one of the "famous" posters here either, I don't claim to be an expert at this game (i'm not), but I'm pretty sure "DPS" isn't exactely the best thing to go off of, either.

Its pretty damn accurate too.

In fact, the number of rares that are objectively stronger then the Predator are very small.

The number of SHOTGUNS that are objectively stronger are..... Three out of ten now?

The Carnifex is technically weaker despite weighing more then twice as much....

Modifié par Rokayt, 08 septembre 2012 - 04:14 .

[Drummernate]

DatFeel wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

The Phalanx is actually REALLY good for being a uncommon.

I actually prefer it to the Carnifex to be honest.

If I am not using my Talon, you will see the Phalanx at my side.

Scorpion, Paladin, Talon, Acolyte, Carnifex are all better. Although, if it's your personal preference, as long as you're good with it, you can use the Predator for all I care.

Scorpion totally sucks against anything other than Phantoms and the Acolyte is pretty much worthless other than stripping shields.

The Phalanx is good in any situation versus any enemy... and its bullets don't take like 2 seconds to even deal damage.

[DatFeel]

Rokayt wrote...

DatFeel wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

The Predator does 600 DPS while being the lightest weapon in the game.

Luckily, you can get other weapons that are at 200 percent cooldown that are infinitely better. I don't see your point. I'm not Ashen Earth, or RedJohn or one of the "famous" posters here either, I don't claim to be an expert at this game (i'm not), but I'm pretty sure "DPS" isn't exactely the best thing to go off of, either.

Its pretty damn accurate too.

In fact, the number of rares that are objectively stronger then the Predator are very small.

The number of SHOTGUNS that are objectively stronger are..... Three out of ten now?

The Carnifex is technically weaker despite weighing more then twice as much....

Be more specific about Shotguns. Do you mean Shotguns that can retain a decent cooldown, or Shotguns period? Cause if we aren't talking about weight restrictions, I can name more than 3.

[kiko1287]

My Batarian Soldier begs to differ.

[DatFeel]

Drummernate wrote...

DatFeel wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

The Phalanx is actually REALLY good for being a uncommon.

I actually prefer it to the Carnifex to be honest.

If I am not using my Talon, you will see the Phalanx at my side.

Scorpion, Paladin, Talon, Acolyte, Carnifex are all better. Although, if it's your personal preference, as long as you're good with it, you can use the Predator for all I care.

Scorpion totally sucks against anything other than Phantoms and the Acolyte is pretty much worthless other than stripping shields.

The Phalanx is good in any situation versus any enemy... and its bullets don't take like 2 seconds to even deal damage.

Scorpion is a lot better than you think, and I'm not basing this off myself, cause I suck with it. Also, I included Acolyte, because I assumed we were comparing the two weapons as side arms. You don't actually use Phalanx as a main weapon, do you? Cause If you do, then I wouldn't of mentioned the Acolyte. But if you are soley speaking from a back up weapon stand point, I'd much rather use the Acolyte. If I wasn't worried about Carpal Tunnel Syndrome, I think the Arc Pistol would be better than the Phalnax as well.

edit: And since you wanted me to be constructive, OP, ever try the Scimitar on the Turian Soldier? It's "viable"

Modifié par DatFeel, 08 septembre 2012 - 04:22 .