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[Chaotic-Fusion]

Well, I agree. Bioware has really ruined ME3 by trying to attract new audiences, the game just ends up being bland.

[Dark Satris]

Baa Baa wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Halo was bad SP game. Half Life were million miles better. Halo had good MP but just MP (imho).

B-b-but, Halo 1 and 2 had really awesome singleplayers

This. period. no questions asked. ME3 go F*** yurself (no offense bioware)

[AresKeith]

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

David7204 wrote...

One hub world in ME 1 = Best RPG of the series choices matter everything is awesome!!!!
One hub world in ME 3 = LOLZZ ME IS NOW CoD ROFL !!!ONE!!one!!!! NO RPG ELEMENTS

ME1 had more than one hub world

ME1 had one hub world. Noveria and feros are not hub worlds.

they were considered Hub Worlds, whether you do or don't is your opinion

[Terminus Echoes]

Ghost1017 wrote...

Terminus Echoes wrote...

KOM_95 wrote...

He gave more examples other than Halo and he's right ME3 is not in the same vein as ME &ME2 The roleplaying aspects are nearly all gone. There's 1 hub world. Seriously 1.

And it's the most unimpressive hub world of series, too.

1.There were a lot of empty rooms in ME1 Citadel and ME2 that served no purpose.
2. ME3 citadel is bigger and better than the ME2 hub worlds.

1. But it felt large and breathtaking. It really felt like a hubworld, not just a confined space with a large backdrop to artificially simulate the idea that you're on a large, in-depth world.
2. It's all been done before, but on a larger scale. It's like if you took the ME1 Citadel, cut it up, and shrink-wrapped it into different packages. You've got a shopping area, an embassy, a club, a docking bay for refugees to remind you that this is a war, and a tiny area before the Normandy which is only there for Diana Allers. It's like they just made a checklist of the bare minimum needed and did that and that alone.
And in ME2, we had a variety of hubworlds. There was the Citadel, Omega, Illium, and Tuchunka. It felt like an expansion upon ME1, however small these may have been. This just feels lazy, and for a game that's supposed to be bigger and better than the past ones, it really fails.

[dreman9999]

Mumba1511 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

1.ME is nothing like COD.
2. Halo has far worst characters then ME.
3.Halo story is not very good at all. Event full but not good. And has no depth.

In a comparison to an in-depth plot and character development like Mass Effect. Halo loses. But saying Halo's story and characters are bad is incorrect.

All I have to say is Halo 2 and I win the arguement. Halo 2 as a story and plot is a mess. Bungie is good with plots that are simple. Once they try to makeit complex, everything becoames a mess, aka  halo 2. Halo 3, ost , and reach kept things simple. Nothing in Halo asa story is out standing. It's just eventfull with great gameplay.

[Eterna]

I don't understand why people call CoD bad but for some reason praise Halo.

[Dark Satris]

Mumba1511 wrote...

Baa Baa wrote...

Mumba1511 wrote...

Didn't even know it was possible to insult Halo, (Except for Reach)

Really? I thought 3 was the worst (singleplayer wise). I thought Reach wasn't that fun but had a good story.

Whaaaaaaat? 

WHAAAAT? reach had a badly spread story, 1 was awesome, 3 was good, 2 i dunno (nver played) odst, well, bah and i dont want to think about wars (the mp for all is awesome, but odsts sucks)

[Chaotic-Fusion]

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

David7204 wrote...

One hub world in ME 1 = Best RPG of the series choices matter everything is awesome!!!!
One hub world in ME 3 = LOLZZ ME IS NOW CoD ROFL !!!ONE!!one!!!! NO RPG ELEMENTS

ME1 had more than one hub world

ME1 had one hub world. Noveria and feros are not hub worlds.

they were considered Hub Worlds, whether you do or don't is your opinion

They were definitely hub worlds. They had several side quest you could initiate from the planet (Smuggling etc.) and stores from where you could buy items. Like Tuchanka or Illium. I don't know why they shouldn't be considered hub worlds.

[Eterna]

AresKeith wrote...

Metal Gear Solid still has the best story

I guess if you like staring at snakes muscular tonned butt. That suit leads nothing to the immagination. 

Modifié par Eterna5, 09 septembre 2012 - 08:42 .

[dreman9999]

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

David7204 wrote...

One hub world in ME 1 = Best RPG of the series choices matter everything is awesome!!!!
One hub world in ME 3 = LOLZZ ME IS NOW CoD ROFL !!!ONE!!one!!!! NO RPG ELEMENTS

ME1 had more than one hub world

ME1 had one hub world. Noveria and feros are not hub worlds.

they were considered Hub Worlds, whether you do or don't is your opinion

Do you even understand what a Hub world is? The citadel is a hub world because you by thing there , get missions there, and have developmentin the plot there outside of one mission. Neveria is not that at all. ME1has on hub world, the citadel. Noveria is not a hub world.

Modifié par dreman9999, 09 septembre 2012 - 08:42 .

[Dark Satris]

Eterna5 wrote...

I don't understand why people call CoD bad but for some reason praise Halo.

because we like scifi (duh), not real life like stuff

[Ghost]

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

David7204 wrote...

One hub world in ME 1 = Best RPG of the series choices matter everything is awesome!!!!
One hub world in ME 3 = LOLZZ ME IS NOW CoD ROFL !!!ONE!!one!!!! NO RPG ELEMENTS

ME1 had more than one hub world

ME1 had one hub world. Noveria and feros are not hub worlds.

they were considered Hub Worlds, whether you do or don't is your opinion

They were just checkpoints to explain the situation before you started missions there.

[Chaotic-Fusion]

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

David7204 wrote...

One hub world in ME 1 = Best RPG of the series choices matter everything is awesome!!!!
One hub world in ME 3 = LOLZZ ME IS NOW CoD ROFL !!!ONE!!one!!!! NO RPG ELEMENTS

ME1 had more than one hub world

ME1 had one hub world. Noveria and feros are not hub worlds.

they were considered Hub Worlds, whether you do or don't is your opinion

Do you even understand what a Hub world is? The citadel is a hub world because you by thing there , get missions there, and have developmentin the plot there outside of one mission. Neveria is not that at all. ME1has on hub world, the citadel. Noveria is not a hub world.

... read my post. You did initiate mission on Noveria as well as Peak 15, and you could buy items (Opold, the Hanar shopkeeper). Seriously, people.

Modifié par Chaotic-Fusion, 09 septembre 2012 - 08:45 .

[dreman9999]

Chaotic-Fusion wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

David7204 wrote...

One hub world in ME 1 = Best RPG of the series choices matter everything is awesome!!!!
One hub world in ME 3 = LOLZZ ME IS NOW CoD ROFL !!!ONE!!one!!!! NO RPG ELEMENTS

ME1 had more than one hub world

ME1 had one hub world. Noveria and feros are not hub worlds.

they were considered Hub Worlds, whether you do or don't is your opinion

They were definitely hub worlds. They had several side quest you could initiate from the planet (Smuggling etc.) and stores from where you could buy items. Like Tuchanka or Illium. I don't know why they shouldn't be considered hub worlds.

No it's not. The side quest was only dealing with the mission on hand in that world. That is not howa hub world world. Mission in hub worlds branch out to other worlds and have much more then what's at hand in noervia and feros. They are not hub worlds.

[genocidal villain]

I have to disagree with you because what it seems you're talking about is pointing towards ME's game-play. What makes special about ME is its deep story; deeper compared to any game I've played before besides Metal Gear Solid. From ME1 to ME3 you know the game-play was going to improve significantly because ME's game-play is a boxy 3rd person shooter, but it is more focused having RPG elements which barely any other the shooter games has.

Plus majority of the games you mentioned are really just rinse and repeat games with tiny improvements and graphics which isn't a big deal because it's still retains the same core game-play.

[David7204]

If people think the final battle of ME 3 is bad, Halo is beyond god awful. A galactic empire taken down with...what, two tanks, a couple of helicopters, and a dozen soldiers?

And however bad the dreams were, those stupid apperations of Cortana were a lot worse.

Modifié par David7204, 09 septembre 2012 - 08:48 .

[Fixers0]

I think we can all agree upon that mos the locations as present in Mass Effect 1 had 100x more depth and immersion then some of those presentend in Mass Effect 2 and most of them in Mass Effect.

[dreman9999]

Chaotic-Fusion wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

David7204 wrote...

One hub world in ME 1 = Best RPG of the series choices matter everything is awesome!!!!
One hub world in ME 3 = LOLZZ ME IS NOW CoD ROFL !!!ONE!!one!!!! NO RPG ELEMENTS

ME1 had more than one hub world

ME1 had one hub world. Noveria and feros are not hub worlds.

they were considered Hub Worlds, whether you do or don't is your opinion

Do you even understand what a Hub world is? The citadel is a hub world because you by thing there , get missions there, and have developmentin the plot there outside of one mission. Neveria is not that at all. ME1has on hub world, the citadel. Noveria is not a hub world.

... read my post. You did initiate mission on Noveria as well as Peak 15, and you could buy items (Opold, the Hanar shopkeeper). Seriously, people.

I read and resoned to you post. That does not make noveria and feros hub world. Why? Because those mission are looked with the main missions on those worlds.

Look up hub...
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Hub 

1. The center part of a wheel, fan, or propeller.2. A center of activity or interest; a focal point.

Noveria is not like that at all. Nothing there brianches out to other worlds mission wise. Onlythe citadel has this in ME1.

[Chaotic-Fusion]

dreman9999 wrote...

Chaotic-Fusion wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

David7204 wrote...

One hub world in ME 1 = Best RPG of the series choices matter everything is awesome!!!!
One hub world in ME 3 = LOLZZ ME IS NOW CoD ROFL !!!ONE!!one!!!! NO RPG ELEMENTS

ME1 had more than one hub world

ME1 had one hub world. Noveria and feros are not hub worlds.

they were considered Hub Worlds, whether you do or don't is your opinion

They were definitely hub worlds. They had several side quest you could initiate from the planet (Smuggling etc.) and stores from where you could buy items. Like Tuchanka or Illium. I don't know why they shouldn't be considered hub worlds.

No it's not. The side quest was only dealing with the mission on hand in that world. That is not howa hub world world. Mission in hub worlds branch out to other worlds and have much more then what's at hand in noervia and feros. They are not hub worlds.

Did you even play ME1? How were the smuggling and espionage side quests on Noveria connected to the main mission? Seriously. And you also stated that for it to be a hub world you must be able to buy items, which you can do on both Noveria and Feros.

[dreman9999]

Fixers0 wrote...

I think we can all agree upon that mos the locations as present in Mass Effect 1 had 100x more depth and immersion then some of those presentend in Mass Effect 2 and most of them in Mass Effect.

No it dd not.  The citadel mostly hadthe mission in ME1. Feros and Noveria became pointless to go back too once the main mission was done. ME2 hub world had more things to do mission wise.

[AresKeith]

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

David7204 wrote...

One hub world in ME 1 = Best RPG of the series choices matter everything is awesome!!!!
One hub world in ME 3 = LOLZZ ME IS NOW CoD ROFL !!!ONE!!one!!!! NO RPG ELEMENTS

ME1 had more than one hub world

ME1 had one hub world. Noveria and feros are not hub worlds.

they were considered Hub Worlds, whether you do or don't is your opinion

Do you even understand what a Hub world is? The citadel is a hub world because you by thing there , get missions there, and have developmentin the plot there outside of one mission. Neveria is not that at all. ME1has on hub world, the citadel. Noveria is not a hub world.

you could do the samething on Noveria, buy things and get side missions, its considered a Hub. Feros on the other hand is debatable

[Fixers0]

dreman9999 wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

I think we can all agree upon that mos the locations as present in Mass Effect 1 had 100x more depth and immersion then some of those presentend in Mass Effect 2 and most of them in Mass Effect.

No it dd not.  The citadel mostly hadthe mission in ME1. Feros and Noveria became pointless to go back too once the main mission was done. ME2 hub world had more things to do mission wise.

Did you even read my post?

[Ghost]

Ghost1017 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

David7204 wrote...

One hub world in ME 1 = Best RPG of the series choices matter everything is awesome!!!!
One hub world in ME 3 = LOLZZ ME IS NOW CoD ROFL !!!ONE!!one!!!! NO RPG ELEMENTS

ME1 had more than one hub world

ME1 had one hub world. Noveria and feros are not hub worlds.

they were considered Hub Worlds, whether you do or don't is your opinion

They were just checkpoints to explain the situation before you started missions there.

The missions did not branch out to other sytems.

[Chaotic-Fusion]

dreman9999 wrote...

Chaotic-Fusion wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

David7204 wrote...

One hub world in ME 1 = Best RPG of the series choices matter everything is awesome!!!!
One hub world in ME 3 = LOLZZ ME IS NOW CoD ROFL !!!ONE!!one!!!! NO RPG ELEMENTS

ME1 had more than one hub world

ME1 had one hub world. Noveria and feros are not hub worlds.

they were considered Hub Worlds, whether you do or don't is your opinion

Do you even understand what a Hub world is? The citadel is a hub world because you by thing there , get missions there, and have developmentin the plot there outside of one mission. Neveria is not that at all. ME1has on hub world, the citadel. Noveria is not a hub world.

... read my post. You did initiate mission on Noveria as well as Peak 15, and you could buy items (Opold, the Hanar shopkeeper). Seriously, people.

I read and resoned to you post. That does not make noveria and feros hub world. Why? Because those mission are looked with the main missions on those worlds.

Look up hub...
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Hub 

1. The center part of a wheel, fan, or propeller.2. A center of activity or interest; a focal point.

Noveria is not like that at all. Nothing there brianches out to other worlds mission wise. Onlythe citadel has this in ME1.

Apparently you didn't . "A center of activity" describes both Noveria and Feros. A hub world mission doesn't have to branch to other world for it be considered such. I don't know where you got that idea. Oh but by the way Noveria has such a mission: Doctor at risk/ UNC: Dead scientists. You find the mission on Noveria and have to travel to another system.

[dreman9999]

Chaotic-Fusion wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Chaotic-Fusion wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

David7204 wrote...

One hub world in ME 1 = Best RPG of the series choices matter everything is awesome!!!!
One hub world in ME 3 = LOLZZ ME IS NOW CoD ROFL !!!ONE!!one!!!! NO RPG ELEMENTS

ME1 had more than one hub world

ME1 had one hub world. Noveria and feros are not hub worlds.

they were considered Hub Worlds, whether you do or don't is your opinion

They were definitely hub worlds. They had several side quest you could initiate from the planet (Smuggling etc.) and stores from where you could buy items. Like Tuchanka or Illium. I don't know why they shouldn't be considered hub worlds.

No it's not. The side quest was only dealing with the mission on hand in that world. That is not howa hub world world. Mission in hub worlds branch out to other worlds and have much more then what's at hand in noervia and feros. They are not hub worlds.

Did you even play ME1? How were the smuggling and espionage side quests on Noveria connected to the main mission? Seriously. And you also stated that for it to be a hub world you must be able to buy items, which you can do on both Noveria and Feros.

The smggling mission can be use to get you self into peck 15. Added, it's only locked in one place. That's not how hub worlds work.

Also, I stated there multiple thing you have to have in the world to be a hub world. Buying thing is one of them but the selection does have to change. Noveria store does not change at all.
A hub world must be wereyou get multipe missions form that branch out to other places in the game, were you get info from, where you can buy thing with the selection changing, and have development in outside of one mission.

The normandy is more of a hub world then noveria.