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[AresKeith]

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

ShabyDonner wrote...

Even feros had side missions (Power cells, verren meat, water restoration) and you could buy stuff fom that salarian Ledra. As far as the story development goes there was in fact more then one main mission... there was two . The geth at the research lab and then the thorian each while somewhat related were seprate missions.

exactly if you can shop, talk to people, and get a couple of side missions its considered a Hub

No, you have to constatly come back there over time. The is what a hub world is.

which you could do in ME1 if you wanna to buy something, doesn't mean it has to be a mission

[dreman9999]

jstme wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Chaotic-Fusion wrote...

Dreman9999 wrote...
One mission at the place does not make it the center of activity. They are not centers of activity.

Mission on Noveria:
Noveria: Geth Interest
Noveria: Peak 15 (which had several assignments that I can't remember)

Assignments:
Smuggling
Espionage
Doctor at risk/UNC: dead scientists (which led to another system)

Two merchants on Noveria. Others at Peak 15.

One mission, huh?

Anyway, I'm done. This is pointless.

That can be found on it own  and that does not make it a center of activity. Hub worlds are revolving doors. You always come back to them. Hence why multiple missions off world and many stores. How many time dopeopel go back the Feros and Noveria afterthey finish the main mission there?

Simple question - is there anything in ME3 that resembles the "non-hub" worlds of Feros and Noveria? You know -places you can buy stuff,go to when you want (and not only on mission)?
Besides the citadel.... 
What's the excuse now?

The ship. But really, the galexy is at war. What place would have shops left out side of the citadel?

[Chaotic-Fusion]

dreman9999 wrote...

I am disappoint wrote...

Noveria and feros were just smaller Hub worlds and not as interesting.
The Citadel was the main attraction and a large hub world.

Omega, Illium, The Citadel and Tuchanka were all small - medium sized hub worlds.

The Citadel in ME3 was a medium - large hub, not as impressive as the last two games.

Noveria and feros are not hub worlds at all. After you did the mission there, how many time did you go back?

After completing Mordin's and Grunt's loyalty missions you had no reason to go back to Tuchanka. And the shop didn't restock either. Is Tuchanka not a hub world, now?

[I am disappoint]

dreman9999 wrote...

I am disappoint wrote...

Noveria and feros were just smaller Hub worlds and not as interesting.
The Citadel was the main attraction and a large hub world.

Omega, Illium, The Citadel and Tuchanka were all small - medium sized hub worlds.

The Citadel in ME3 was a medium - large hub, not as impressive as the last two games.

Noveria and feros are not hub worlds at all. After you did the mission there, how many time did you go back?

That is a stupid basis for determining if hub world is a hub world or not.
After all in ME1 I'm pretty sure you can avoid going to the citadel of your own free will for the entire game.
The 2 times you're forced to do there is for the story.

[dreman9999]

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

ShabyDonner wrote...

Even feros had side missions (Power cells, verren meat, water restoration) and you could buy stuff fom that salarian Ledra. As far as the story development goes there was in fact more then one main mission... there was two . The geth at the research lab and then the thorian each while somewhat related were seprate missions.

exactly if you can shop, talk to people, and get a couple of side missions its considered a Hub

No, you have to constatly come back there over time. The is what a hub world is.

which you could do in ME1 if you wanna to buy something, doesn't mean it has to be a mission

In ME1 if I want to buy something I never had to go to noveria and feros to get it. Which is my point. How many time did you go back the noveria and feros after the main mission there?

[AresKeith]

dreman9999 wrote...

The ship. But really, the galexy is at war. What place would have shops left out side of the citadel?

Thessia, Sur'kesh, Tuchanka after Genophage mission, the Crucible Site could have been a hub just for fun

[Volc19]

And then no one read the OP, and the posters started talking about topics other than developers knowing what makes a game good, and running with that instead of trying and failing to be a mixed bag of things that appeal to everyone.

I hate people.

Modifié par Volc19, 09 septembre 2012 - 09:19 .

[RevenantWolf]

When I take the entire Universe into consideration for both Halo and Mass Effect, I like Halo better. I read all the comics and books of both, as well as played all the games. ME3 and the last ME book ruined it for me. Halo was second to Mass Effect for me but now ME has dropped out of my top 5.
Oh and the Covenant would destroy the Reapers. no contest.

Modifié par RevenantWolf, 09 septembre 2012 - 09:19 .

[AresKeith]

RevenantWolf wrote...

When I take the entire Universe into consideration for both Halo and Mass Effect, I like Halo better. I read all the comics and books of both, as well as played all the games. ME3 and the last ME book ruined it for me. Halo was second to Mass Effect for me but now its dropped out of my top 5.
Oh and the Covenant would destroy the Reapers. no contest.

*cough* Flood *cough*

[dreman9999]

I am disappoint wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

I am disappoint wrote...

Noveria and feros were just smaller Hub worlds and not as interesting.
The Citadel was the main attraction and a large hub world.

Omega, Illium, The Citadel and Tuchanka were all small - medium sized hub worlds.

The Citadel in ME3 was a medium - large hub, not as impressive as the last two games.

Noveria and feros are not hub worlds at all. After you did the mission there, how many time did you go back?

That is a stupid basis for determining if hub world is a hub world or not.
After all in ME1 I'm pretty sure you can avoid going to the citadel of your own free will for the entire game.
The 2 times you're forced to do there is for the story.

No it's not. Hub worlds are centers of activity. How can something be a center of activity you you have not reson to go back?
In ME1 you had no story related reason to go back till after your done with your story missions, yet we go back many times...That is a hub world.

[dreman9999]

RevenantWolf wrote...

When I take the entire Universe into consideration for both Halo and Mass Effect, I like Halo better. I read all the comics and books of both, as well as played all the games. ME3 and the last ME book ruined it for me. Halo was second to Mass Effect for me but now ME has dropped out of my top 5.
Oh and the Covenant would destroy the Reapers. no contest.

The reapers ae basicly like the flood. If the convent can handle the flood, they can't handle the reapers.

[David7204]

As I said, the Covenant empire was toppled by two tanks, a couple of helicopters, and a dozen soldiers. Their defeat had practically nothing to do with anything that happened in the other two and a half games.

[dreman9999]

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

The ship. But really, the galexy is at war. What place would have shops left out side of the citadel?

Thessia, Sur'kesh, Tuchanka after Genophage mission, the Crucible Site could have been a hub just for fun

Thessia is at war, Tuchancka is at war. So no to that. The crucible site.....maybe, but just to get missions.

[AresKeith]

dreman9999 wrote...

I am disappoint wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

I am disappoint wrote...

Noveria and feros were just smaller Hub worlds and not as interesting.
The Citadel was the main attraction and a large hub world.

Omega, Illium, The Citadel and Tuchanka were all small - medium sized hub worlds.

The Citadel in ME3 was a medium - large hub, not as impressive as the last two games.

Noveria and feros are not hub worlds at all. After you did the mission there, how many time did you go back?

That is a stupid basis for determining if hub world is a hub world or not.
After all in ME1 I'm pretty sure you can avoid going to the citadel of your own free will for the entire game.
The 2 times you're forced to do there is for the story.

No it's not. Hub worlds are centers of activity. How can something be a center of activity you you have not reson to go back?
In ME1 you had no story related reason to go back till after your done with your story missions, yet we go back many times...That is a hub world.

because Noveria and Feros are small Hub Worlds, not every Hub has to be a big as the Citadel Hub. And just because you don't have a reason to back doesn't mean its not a Hub World, why do you have to be so stubborn about everything?

[I am disappoint]

dreman9999 wrote...

I am disappoint wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

I am disappoint wrote...

Noveria and feros were just smaller Hub worlds and not as interesting.
The Citadel was the main attraction and a large hub world.

Omega, Illium, The Citadel and Tuchanka were all small - medium sized hub worlds.

The Citadel in ME3 was a medium - large hub, not as impressive as the last two games.

Noveria and feros are not hub worlds at all. After you did the mission there, how many time did you go back?

That is a stupid basis for determining if hub world is a hub world or not.
After all in ME1 I'm pretty sure you can avoid going to the citadel of your own free will for the entire game.
The 2 times you're forced to do there is for the story.

No it's not. Hub worlds are centers of activity. How can something be a center of activity you you have not reson to go back?
In ME1 you had no story related reason to go back till after your done with your story missions, yet we go back many times...That is a hub world.

But there is reasons to go back.
To sell goods and to chat and do side missions.

I went back many times as did many others.

Modifié par I am disappoint, 09 septembre 2012 - 09:24 .

[Anti-killer]

David7204 wrote...

As I said, the Covenant empire was toppled by two tanks, a couple of helicopters, and a dozen soldiers. Their defeat had practically nothing to do with anything that happened in the other two and a half games.

Covenant civil war anyone...?

[stysiaq]

Arcian, I disagree.

For me ME does "it's thing". I can't tell if it mimics COD, because I don't play it, but for me it was always abot the voice acting, the characters and making choices. The fact that the gameplay is progressively more enjoyable doesn't change that.

[dreman9999]

Chaotic-Fusion wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

I am disappoint wrote...

Noveria and feros were just smaller Hub worlds and not as interesting.
The Citadel was the main attraction and a large hub world.

Omega, Illium, The Citadel and Tuchanka were all small - medium sized hub worlds.

The Citadel in ME3 was a medium - large hub, not as impressive as the last two games.

Noveria and feros are not hub worlds at all. After you did the mission there, how many time did you go back?

After completing Mordin's and Grunt's loyalty missions you had no reason to go back to Tuchanka. And the shop didn't restock either. Is Tuchanka not a hub world, now?

You havetwo shops with mods you need to get for your guns and weapons. That the only place you can get those mods and you have no garantee have enough those 2 times to get them. While in noveria and Feros, whats there you get anywhere...
You don't have any reason to go back to noveria and feros.

[AresKeith]

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

The ship. But really, the galexy is at war. What place would have shops left out side of the citadel?

Thessia, Sur'kesh, Tuchanka after Genophage mission, the Crucible Site could have been a hub just for fun

Thessia is at war, Tuchancka is at war. So no to that. The crucible site.....maybe, but just to get missions.

Thessia wasn't attacked by the Reapers till after Rannoch, could have been a Hub till them

Sur'kesh wasn't even touched till you head back to Earth, obvious Hub

Tuchanka only had the Destroyer at that time till later on in the game, could've been a small hub till then

[dreman9999]

I am disappoint wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

I am disappoint wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

I am disappoint wrote...

Noveria and feros were just smaller Hub worlds and not as interesting.
The Citadel was the main attraction and a large hub world.

Omega, Illium, The Citadel and Tuchanka were all small - medium sized hub worlds.

The Citadel in ME3 was a medium - large hub, not as impressive as the last two games.

Noveria and feros are not hub worlds at all. After you did the mission there, how many time did you go back?

That is a stupid basis for determining if hub world is a hub world or not.
After all in ME1 I'm pretty sure you can avoid going to the citadel of your own free will for the entire game.
The 2 times you're forced to do there is for the story.

No it's not. Hub worlds are centers of activity. How can something be a center of activity you you have not reson to go back?
In ME1 you had no story related reason to go back till after your done with your story missions, yet we go back many times...That is a hub world.

But there is reasons to go back.
To sell goods and to chat and do side missions.

I went back many times as did many others.

Noveria had one side mission on planet. Also, if you don't have to go to novera to sell things as you can do that on your ship.
Faros had 3 and you can easily do them on the main mission.
As for talking... One hanar that says that says same thing over is taking?
Same thing with feros....One salarian 
that says same thing over is taking? 

[I am disappoint]

dreman9999 wrote...

Chaotic-Fusion wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

I am disappoint wrote...

Noveria and feros were just smaller Hub worlds and not as interesting.
The Citadel was the main attraction and a large hub world.

Omega, Illium, The Citadel and Tuchanka were all small - medium sized hub worlds.

The Citadel in ME3 was a medium - large hub, not as impressive as the last two games.

Noveria and feros are not hub worlds at all. After you did the mission there, how many time did you go back?

After completing Mordin's and Grunt's loyalty missions you had no reason to go back to Tuchanka. And the shop didn't restock either. Is Tuchanka not a hub world, now?

You havetwo shops with mods you need to get for your guns and weapons. That the only place you can get those mods and you have no garantee have enough those 2 times to get them. While in noveria and Feros, whats there you get anywhere...
You don't have any reason to go back to noveria and feros.

You have no guarantee that you have enough to buy the goods in Noveria the first time you visit.

[dreman9999]

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

The ship. But really, the galexy is at war. What place would have shops left out side of the citadel?

Thessia, Sur'kesh, Tuchanka after Genophage mission, the Crucible Site could have been a hub just for fun

Thessia is at war, Tuchancka is at war. So no to that. The crucible site.....maybe, but just to get missions.

Thessia wasn't attacked by the Reapers till after Rannoch, could have been a Hub till them

Sur'kesh wasn't even touched till you head back to Earth, obvious Hub

Tuchanka only had the Destroyer at that time till later on in the game, could've been a small hub till then

Thessia was being attacked before. Sur'kesh you had no reason to go there. The thing with hubsis that you need a story related reason why it would be a hub world.

[dreman9999]

I am disappoint wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Chaotic-Fusion wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

I am disappoint wrote...

Noveria and feros were just smaller Hub worlds and not as interesting.
The Citadel was the main attraction and a large hub world.

Omega, Illium, The Citadel and Tuchanka were all small - medium sized hub worlds.

The Citadel in ME3 was a medium - large hub, not as impressive as the last two games.

Noveria and feros are not hub worlds at all. After you did the mission there, how many time did you go back?

After completing Mordin's and Grunt's loyalty missions you had no reason to go back to Tuchanka. And the shop didn't restock either. Is Tuchanka not a hub world, now?

You havetwo shops with mods you need to get for your guns and weapons. That the only place you can get those mods and you have no garantee have enough those 2 times to get them. While in noveria and Feros, whats there you get anywhere...
You don't have any reason to go back to noveria and feros.

You have no guarantee that you have enough to buy the goods in Noveria the first time you visit.

But I can buy the goods found in Noveria any where elses....Heck, I can get them via drops for free. 

[Chaotic-Fusion]

dreman9999 wrote...

Chaotic-Fusion wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

I am disappoint wrote...

Noveria and feros were just smaller Hub worlds and not as interesting.
The Citadel was the main attraction and a large hub world.

Omega, Illium, The Citadel and Tuchanka were all small - medium sized hub worlds.

The Citadel in ME3 was a medium - large hub, not as impressive as the last two games.

Noveria and feros are not hub worlds at all. After you did the mission there, how many time did you go back?

After completing Mordin's and Grunt's loyalty missions you had no reason to go back to Tuchanka. And the shop didn't restock either. Is Tuchanka not a hub world, now?

You havetwo shops with mods you need to get for your guns and weapons. That the only place you can get those mods and you have no garantee have enough those 2 times to get them. While in noveria and Feros, whats there you get anywhere...
You don't have any reason to go back to noveria and feros.

lol no.

Opold sells upgrades you can't get anywhere else. You can also get a unique weapon mod. Opold also stocks alien armor, rarely found anywhere else.

Really, is it so difficult to admit you were wrong?

Modifié par Chaotic-Fusion, 09 septembre 2012 - 09:33 .

[RevenantWolf]

dreman9999 wrote...

RevenantWolf wrote...

When I take the entire Universe into consideration for both Halo and Mass Effect, I like Halo better. I read all the comics and books of both, as well as played all the games. ME3 and the last ME book ruined it for me. Halo was second to Mass Effect for me but now ME has dropped out of my top 5.
Oh and the Covenant would destroy the Reapers. no contest.

The reapers ae basicly like the flood. If the convent can handle the flood, they can't handle the reapers.

Humanity defeated the flood. The Reapers are nothing like the flood. The Flood is an infection. Not slow indoctrination. Not a process.  But that is for a different thread.