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[Allan Schumacher]

Me either, I'm sure TOR would be a fantastic game for MMO players, and people can say you can solo it the whole way through as much as they like, but I like my games to be finite and I can't stand the concept of paying for a game beyond purchase. DLC I can handle, but subscriptions I cannot.

The game is going free to play. For anyone that wants to experience some KOTOR like writing, I emphatically encourage everyone to play it. The storylines have definitive conclusions.

[Cyne]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Me either, I'm sure TOR would be a fantastic game for MMO players, and people can say you can solo it the whole way through as much as they like, but I like my games to be finite and I can't stand the concept of paying for a game beyond purchase. DLC I can handle, but subscriptions I cannot.

The game is going free to play. For anyone that wants to experience some KOTOR like writing, I emphatically encourage everyone to play it. The storylines have definitive conclusions.

any word on when this will happen? I would LOVE to play this if it's free. I don't go for mmos normally but guild wars 2 converted me

[Mr Fixit]

Emzamination wrote...

Yeah, I think DA3 will be a bioware masterpiece from what I've heard so far.

And what exactly do you base that opinion on, since we've heard almost nothing conclusive?

[Sable Rhapsody]

Cyne wrote...
any word on when this will happen? I would LOVE to play this if it's free. I don't go for mmos normally but guild wars 2 converted me

Later this fall, probably November or December.  Further details to come as we get closer to F2P.  It'll be nice to play TOR again.  I had to stop halfway through playing some really fun class content because I couldn't justify spending all that subscription money.

Anyway, back to DA3.  I expect DA3 to grow from the design decisions (both good and bad) of DA:O and DA2.  Despite all the flak it gets, I didn't think DA2 was a bad game, and I don't want the devs to throw out the baby with the bath water on that one.  I expect more PC and NPC customization, convincingly real and engaging characters, solid voice acting, a plot that makes sense (have to throw that in after ME3), and most importantly, emotional impact.

Oh, and I also want French accents galore.  But maybe that's just me 

[Avaflame]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Me either, I'm sure TOR would be a fantastic game for MMO players, and people can say you can solo it the whole way through as much as they like, but I like my games to be finite and I can't stand the concept of paying for a game beyond purchase. DLC I can handle, but subscriptions I cannot.

The game is going free to play. For anyone that wants to experience some KOTOR like writing, I emphatically encourage everyone to play it. The storylines have definitive conclusions.

I only just realised what you meant by F2P hahaha. I will probably give it a go if I get the chance, and I hope it smashes my apprehensions into tiny, tiny pieces. I've just always had a mental block when it comes to online gaming and MMOs and I hold BioWare and the KOTOR games (I know #2 was Obsidian) in such high esteem that it would be a huge disappointment to me if it didn't live up to my expectations.

Modifié par Avaflame, 10 septembre 2012 - 07:39 .

[Roobz82]

Mr Fixit wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Yeah, I think DA3 will be a bioware masterpiece from what I've heard so far.

And what exactly do you base that opinion on, since we've heard almost nothing conclusive?

Based on your own logic, what do you base your doubt on?  I didn't even know DA2 was so critically panned until I joined whiny bsn.

[KiwiQuiche]

Roobz82 wrote...

Mr Fixit wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Yeah, I think DA3 will be a bioware masterpiece from what I've heard so far.

And what exactly do you base that opinion on, since we've heard almost nothing conclusive?

Based on your own logic, what do you base your doubt on?  I didn't even know DA2 was so critically panned until I joined whiny bsn.

Maybe Mr Fixit is sceptical because of Bioware's recent flops like DA2 and ME3?

[Mr Fixit]

Roobz82 wrote...

Mr Fixit wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Yeah, I think DA3 will be a bioware masterpiece from what I've heard so far.

And what exactly do you base that opinion on, since we've heard almost nothing conclusive?

Based on your own logic, what do you base your doubt on?  I didn't even know DA2 was so critically panned until I joined whiny bsn.

How do you know I have any doubts? I certainly didn't express them in this thread.

For the record, I don't have any opinions on DA3. DA2 was a mediocre game, but I don't know what BioWare intends to change for the next game. I am perfectly neutral and ready to judge the game for what it is when it comes out.

Don't you think it's silly to call a game a "masterpiece" before you know anything conclusive about it?

[Maria Caliban]

I did beta testing for TOR. While there are elements of the game I don't care for, the stories themselves are far better than that of the average MMO. Honestly, if you liked KotOR and KotOR 2, there's no reason you shouldn't at least pick up TOR once it goes F2P. The content is about x8 what you'd have gotten in KotOR 3.

I think people who skipped it simply because it wasn't a single player game were out of their mind.

[Mr Fixit]

Maria Caliban wrote...

I did beta testing for TOR. While there are elements of the game I don't care for, the stories themselves are far better than that of the average MMO. Honestly, if you liked KotOR and KotOR 2, there's no reason you shouldn't at least pick up TOR once it goes F2P. The content is about x8 what you'd have gotten in KotOR 3.

I think people who skipped it simply because it wasn't a single player game were out of their mind.

I love KOTOR, both of them. Pehaps I will check TOR out when it goes free-to-play.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Welsh Inferno wrote...

Expect the worst and you may be pleasantly surprised.
Expect the best and you may be greatly disappointing.

So yeah, I think low expectations are the best way to go.

Words of wisdom.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Emzamination wrote...

Wrong? If you go into something expecting to hate it, you're going to get critical about every nook and crannie therefore bringing your prediction to fruition, that's just logic and fact.Also Your post doesn't specify that you're talking about yourself nor does my post specify that I'm talking soley about you.

Erm...no. Maybe it works that way for you, but just because you project your negativity and are incapable of judging a product obejctively, doesn't mean others do.

Also, I am critical about every nook and cranie in every game/movie/series, regardelss if I expect I'll hate it or not.

Hasn't stopped me from enjoying them.

Modifié par Lotion Soronnar, 10 septembre 2012 - 08:37 .

[Plaintiff]

I expect I will enjoy it as much as I enjoyed the previous two games.

[Renmiri1]

Mr Fixit wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Yeah, I think DA3 will be a bioware masterpiece from what I've heard so far.

And what exactly do you base that opinion on, since we've heard almost nothing conclusive?

I agree with Enzamination.

In my case I base the opinion on the fact that the ME3 problems gave a lot of good "lessons learned" to the Bioware devs. I certainly hope they will look back at what worked and what didn't on ME and will apply some of this knowledge on their next games.

[ianvillan]

Renmiri1 wrote...

Mr Fixit wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Yeah, I think DA3 will be a bioware masterpiece from what I've heard so far.

And what exactly do you base that opinion on, since we've heard almost nothing conclusive?

I agree with Enzamination.

In my case I base the opinion on the fact that the ME3 problems gave a lot of good "lessons learned" to the Bioware devs. I certainly hope they will look back at what worked and what didn't on ME and will apply some of this knowledge on their next games.

I would hope that for DA3 that they look back on what did and didn't work for Dragon Age as a whole and stop looking at Mass Effect, because in my opinion looking at ME and copying alot of there features is what caused most of the problems with Dragon Age 2.

[PinkShoes]

Emzamination wrote...

Yeah, I think DA3 will be a bioware masterpiece from what I've heard so far.

I'm asking what your expectations are for DA3 from your experiences from DA2. It isnt an outlandish question people are always guessing and assuming when it comes to games.

[PinkShoes]

Welsh Inferno wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Hmm? When you go into something expecting the worst, that's what you get because that's all you can see.

Wrong. Thats what you may do. Not me.

I didn't go into DA2 expecting the worst. I was dissapointed. I had hope that all the rage over ME3's ending was pure nonsense. I was dissapointed. Add to those some other games, numeras movies & television series where similar things have happened.

On the other hand, when I decided to get DA:O & Mass Effect for the very first time. I was extremely apprehensive. Had no idea if I would like these kinds of games. I had a fantastic surprise & loved every second of them.

Having the right expectations has never let me down.

I agree actually, when i picked up DAO and started playing i wasnt too impressed from how it first looked but before i knew it it was one of my top games. I didn't care how bad it looked and at points like in the elven ruins i thought it looked really beautiful.

[PinkShoes]

Darth Death wrote...

suntzuxi wrote...

I think it will surely be better than DA2 given the improvements we saw in DA2's dlcs. But we have to wait and see whether it can live up to DAO or not.

It won't. BioWare is too busy catering to the "wider audience", but I do agree that it may be better than DA2. 

Yeah, that "wider audience" does scare me.

[PinkShoes]

Shevy_001 wrote...

I'm not expecting an amazing product equal to Origins because there a confirmations which simply not allow that it will live up to Origins. ( Voiced protag, dialogue wheel, DA II art style ( more or less confirmed) )
I think it'll be better than DA II because they can't do the same mistakes twice , or they shouldn't. Whether I'll buy it or not will be depending on gameplay footage and gamer reviews.

I agree with this. I dont think it will compare to DAO but i think it will be better than DA2.

I feel like after you said that that we should think of DAO as a seprate game and DA2 as the starting point for the DA series.

[Jerrybnsn]

wsandista wrote...

I don't know. As of this moment I don't know anything about the game other than it will have a dialogue wheel. I will need more information before I can form an opinion.

What we know.

It'll have a voiced actor; so guaranteed set protagonist again.
Dialogue wheel with paraphrases.
Same combat as DA2, with auto-attack
Multiplayer
Iconic looks for squadmates, er, companions that you can switch to different iconic looks.
Orleasians
Protagonist will be trying to end the Mage/Templar Conflict
Mage/Templer conflict

What we don't know:

How big of a world will we be able to explore and how many cultures or countries will we visit.
How long of a game will it be; Origins 70-80 hour game, or DA2 25-35 hour game.
If Orleasians will be speaking with French accents or mostly British accents with only main Orleasians speaking the French accent.
Anything about the possible new companions other than a warrior, rogue and mage.
Anything about returning companions.

Did I miss anything?  Am I wrong about anything?

Modifié par Jerrybnsn, 10 septembre 2012 - 12:06 .

[Jerrybnsn]

Mr Fixit wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Yeah, I think DA3 will be a bioware masterpiece from what I've heard so far.

And what exactly do you base that opinion on, since we've heard almost nothing conclusive?

Because they are taking a longer time to develope the game so it must be a masterpiece?

[PinkShoes]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Wrong? If you go into something expecting to hate it, you're going to get critical about every nook and crannie therefore bringing your prediction to fruition, that's just logic and fact.Also Your post doesn't specify that you're talking about yourself nor does my post specify that I'm talking soley about you.

Erm...no. Maybe it works that way for you, but just because you project your negativity and are incapable of judging a product obejctively, doesn't mean others do.

Also, I am critical about every nook and cranie in every game/movie/series, regardelss if I expect I'll hate it or not.

Hasn't stopped me from enjoying them.

I judge media and i can be picky especially when it comes to games because they can be very expensive. So i agree with what you said. It never takes me away from any enjoyment i have of the game.

[Jerrybnsn]

PinkShoes wrote...

I agree actually, when i picked up DAO and started playing i wasnt too impressed from how it first looked but before i knew it it was one of my top games. I didn't care how bad it looked and at points like in the elven ruins i thought it looked really beautiful.

Same here.  I wasn't planning on playing Origins because my computer was outdated and western rpgs just really never succeed well on console. It was given to me as a Valentine's Day gift.  I almost traded the game in after the first couple of hours playing my human noble because it didn't have that open world feel.  But then the game really started to kick in and when I was finished I was just staring at the credits completely amazed at how great an experience it was.  Then I immediately started a new character.

Modifié par Jerrybnsn, 10 septembre 2012 - 09:45 .

[SpunkyMonkey]

The issue with DA 2 was that they streamlined and messed about with the wrong things - just give us DA:O but with more polished graphics, less inventory management, and writing that's not as miniscule and we're nearly there.

Personally I think the combat could do with slowing down a tad so you can fully appreciate sitting back and watching a full mighty swing from your warrior make contact etc, as opposed to having to switch to another character straight away for tactical reasons.

DA:O was so close to perfection, just needed a few tweaks.

[Fast Jimmy]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Welsh Inferno wrote...

Expect the worst and you may be pleasantly surprised.
Expect the best and you may be greatly disappointing.

So yeah, I think low expectations are the best way to go.

Words of wisdom.

I agree. As ironic as it seems, I think it's entirely possible people who strongly prefer DA:O may have their expectations quite low and be more forgiving of DA3, while those who loved DA2 may be the ones who have the 'butthurt' mentality the week or so after DA3 comes out.