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[DeinonSlayer]

There's no way to skip the hug, period. Even spacebar doesn't work.

I did like the multiple-routes thing in ME1. There's a lot of that in New Vegas (and even DA:O), entire quests being available (or not) depending on who you choose to side with.

[Ryzaki]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

There's no way to skip the hug, period. Even spacebar doesn't work.

I did like the multiple-routes thing in ME1. There's a lot of that in New Vegas (and even DA:O), entire quests being available (or not) depending on who you choose to side with.

D: I thought it did. OMG WTF. BW really wanted us to see Blueberry's tru wub in action didn't they? You can skip gretting everyone else overly friendly but woe betide you do that to Liara. The game might explode.

Yeah it was especially fun on Noveria.

There were three different ways of getting the pass. Snitch on Parsini to Anoelis, Give the evidence to Lorik, give it to Parisini.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 01 décembre 2013 - 05:58 .

[DeinonSlayer]

Ryzaki wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

There's no way to skip the hug, period. Even spacebar doesn't work.

I did like the multiple-routes thing in ME1. There's a lot of that in New Vegas (and even DA:O), entire quests being available (or not) depending on who you choose to side with.

D: I thought it did. OMG WTF. BW really wanted us to see Blueberry's tru wub in action didn't they? You can skip gretting everyone else overly friendly but woe betide you do that to Liara. The game might explode.

Yeah it was especially fun on Noveria.

There were three different ways of getting the pass. Snitch on Parsini to Anoelis, Give the evidence to Lorik, give it to Parisini.

You could also give Opold's package to Anoleis, and avoid the shootout in Lorik's office entirely.

[DeinonSlayer]

StreetMagic wrote...

Not to mention screw over Opold and give it to the Krogan. Schemes within schemes!

And there was something like six different ways to handle the corporate espionage sidequest. Turn down her offer, reveal that you're spying for her, etc. It was great.

[Ryzaki]

DeinonSlayer wrote...
You could also give Opold's package to Anoleis, and avoid the shootout in Lorik's office entirely.

D: 

I didn't realize this. Well I know what I'm doing my next playthrough of ME1. :innocent: See I love that I can still find new things in DAO/ME1.

DeinonSlayer wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

Not
to mention screw over Opold and give it to the Krogan. Schemes within
schemes!

And there was something like six different ways to
handle the corporate espionage sidequest. Turn down her offer, reveal
that you're spying for her, etc. It was great.

It was. Also I loved being able to get to Benezia without having to kill any of the guards (or brute forcing my way through and killing all the guards).

[Barquiel]

rashie wrote...

How liara is written actually makes sense in all 3 games if your going for her as a LI from the start. Bit obsessive but there's people being like that in IRL as well, its not unusual per say.

The thing is she is written to be like that even when you do not have her as a LI which is kind of where things went south.

This is the problem confining Liara's character development to comics and DLC...not everyone will read/play them. For example, Liara is rather sceptical of the Lazarus project. She says it herself (at the end of Redemption, when Miranda tells her about Cerberus's true motives)..."I really think you should let the dead rest..."

And Liara isn't the only one who was looking for Shepard. She was just the one who was successful because she received an anonymous tip from cerberus. Yes, she could have just ignored the tip...but why should she? Shepard is her lover, her friend, and/or the person who saved her life on Therum. Her decisions in the comic were pragmatic, but the game summarized the entire arc of ME:Redemption as "I couldn't let you go" (which doesn't make much sense for some Shepards, I agree).

[DeinonSlayer]

Ryzaki wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

Not to mention screw over Opold and give it to the Krogan. Schemes within schemes!

And there was something like six different ways to handle the corporate espionage sidequest. Turn down her offer, reveal that you're spying for her, etc. It was great.

It was. Also I loved being able to get to Benezia without having to kill any of the guards (or brute forcing my way through and killing all the guards).

It was great for RP too. One of my Shepards I RP'd as secretly working for Cerberus from the beginning. It was only after discovering the Rachni Queen that she went back and cleaned out the guards - no witnesses, and all (a policy which extended to Wrex and Ashley). She released the Queen, made no report to the Council, and (I headcanon) tipped off Cerberus to pick her up, leading to the situation she had to clean up later. The queen had no idea she was complicit in her capture, of course, so Shep played along through the sequels before picking her up as a legitimate ally in ME3.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 01 décembre 2013 - 06:17 .

[Ryzaki]

Wait...I thought you couldn't go back up to the guards once you encountered Benezia? You can?

[DeinonSlayer]

Ryzaki wrote...

Wait...I thought you couldn't go back up to the guards once you encountered Benezia? You can?

Yep, just go back through the door you came through and take a right - it'll take you through the security station from the rear. Going out the other way back to the tram station will get you locked out.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 01 décembre 2013 - 06:23 .

[Ryzaki]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Wait...I thought you couldn't go back up to the guards once you encountered Benezia? You can?

Yep, just go back through the door you came through. Going out the other way back to the tram station will get you locked out.

WHY DO I MISS SO MANY THINGS.

Do they say anything special if you do that?

Modifié par Ryzaki, 01 décembre 2013 - 06:24 .

[DeinonSlayer]

Ryzaki wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Wait...I thought you couldn't go back up to the guards once you encountered Benezia? You can?

Yep, just go back through the door you came through. Going out the other way back to the tram station will get you locked out.

Do they say anything special if you do that?

No, not that I remember - you just set off an alarm and they shoot on sight. I think you do run across that Volus as a sole survivor and he says something new.

That was a fun Shepard to roleplay. She never tipped her hand. Later on she intentionally failed Thane's loyalty mission to see the racist Turian politician eliminated while keeping her hands clean.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 01 décembre 2013 - 06:26 .

[Ryzaki]

DeinonSlayer wrote...
No, not that I remember - you just set off an alarm and they shoot on sight. I think you do run across that Volus as a sole survivor and he says something new.

Awesome.

Why shoot on sight if you helped them out though? Jerks. <_<

[rashie]

Barquiel wrote...

rashie wrote...

How liara is written actually makes sense in all 3 games if your going for her as a LI from the start. Bit obsessive but there's people being like that in IRL as well, its not unusual per say.

The thing is she is written to be like that even when you do not have her as a LI which is kind of where things went south.

This is the problem confining Liara's character development to comics and DLC...not everyone will read/play them. For example, Liara is rather sceptical of the Lazarus project. She says it herself (at the end of Redemption, when Miranda tells her about Cerberus's true motives)..."I really think you should let the dead rest..."

And Liara isn't the only one who was looking for Shepard. She was just the one who was successful because she received an anonymous tip from cerberus. Yes, she could have just ignored the tip...but why should she? Shepard is her lover, her friend, and/or the person who saved her life on Therum. Her decisions in the comic were pragmatic, but the game summarized the entire arc of ME:Redemption as "I couldn't let you go" (which doesn't make much sense for some Shepards, I agree).

I did read Redemption. That still do not excuse her behavior with a non romance shepard, fact is the only difference in that entire conversation between a non romance and a romanced shepard plays out the same to 100% except how she greets you.

With a shepard who expressed he did not wish to have a relationship ( or outright said she is creepy ) her motivations for Redemption should have been explained on a more professional and less emotional level in ME2, i.e only did it because the collectors wanted the body.

Modifié par rashie, 01 décembre 2013 - 06:28 .

[DeinonSlayer]

Ryzaki wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...
No, not that I remember - you just set off an alarm and they shoot on sight. I think you do run across that Volus as a sole survivor and he says something new.

Awesome.

Why shoot on sight if you helped them out though? Jerks. <_<

They're all working for Benezia. The guards massacre the scientists if I remember right in the event that they find out you were poking about. I think that's what the volus says - there were no scientists to be found when I got back upstairs.

All witnesses sterilized. Green-light for Cerberus to extract the queen. 

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 01 décembre 2013 - 06:30 .

[Ryzaki]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...
No, not that I remember - you just set off an alarm and they shoot on sight. I think you do run across that Volus as a sole survivor and he says something new.

Awesome.

Why shoot on sight if you helped them out though? Jerks. <_<

They're all working for Benezia. The guards massacre the scientists if I remember right in the event that they find out you were poking about. I think that's what the volus says - there were no scientists to be found when I got back upstairs.

All witnesses sterilized. Green-light for Cerberus to extract the queen. 

Ooooh. Wow and any sympathy I had for them went down the toilet.

LOL

That was a fun Shepard to roleplay. She never tipped her hand. Later
on she intentionally failed Thane's loyalty mission to see the racist
Turian politician eliminated while keeping her hands clean.

You can just kill him yourself and still succed at Thane's LM though...

[DeinonSlayer]

Yeah, but it's better for Shepard to keep her hands clean. Let them blame the Drell.



I might have actually gone to the Hot Labs before Benezia in that playthrough to get the guards to kill the scientists. I went back through the barracks to clean up after dealing with her.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 01 décembre 2013 - 06:46 .

[Barquiel]

rashie wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

rashie wrote...

How liara is written actually makes sense in all 3 games if your going for her as a LI from the start. Bit obsessive but there's people being like that in IRL as well, its not unusual per say.

The thing is she is written to be like that even when you do not have her as a LI which is kind of where things went south.

This is the problem confining Liara's character development to comics and DLC...not everyone will read/play them. For example, Liara is rather sceptical of the Lazarus project. She says it herself (at the end of Redemption, when Miranda tells her about Cerberus's true motives)..."I really think you should let the dead rest..."

And Liara isn't the only one who was looking for Shepard. She was just the one who was successful because she received an anonymous tip from cerberus. Yes, she could have just ignored the tip...but why should she? Shepard is her lover, her friend, and/or the person who saved her life on Therum. Her decisions in the comic were pragmatic, but the game summarized the entire arc of ME:Redemption as "I couldn't let you go" (which doesn't make much sense for some Shepards, I agree).

I did read Redemption. That still do not excuse her behavior with a non romance shepard, fact is the only difference in that entire conversation between a non romance and a romanced shepard plays out the same to 100% except how she greets you.

With a shepard who expressed he did not wish to have a relationship ( or outright said she is creepy ) her motivations for Redemption should have been explained on a more professional and less emotional level in ME2, i.e only did it because the collectors wanted the body.

That's why I said the problem is ME2, and not Redemption. Mac Walters made it clear in Redemption that Liara just agreed to  recover Shepards body because TIM mentioned the involvement of the collectors. But ME2 gave us "I couldn't let you go" (which never seemed a declaration of love but an admission of failure on her part).

[Ryzaki]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Yeah, but it's better for Shepard to keep her hands clean. Let them blame the Drell.



I might have actually gone to the Hot Labs before Benezia in that playthrough to get the guards to kill the scientists. I went back through the barracks to clean up after dealing with her.

Ice cold! D:

But yeah that's what my renedouche is gonna do from now on. They work with the enemy they pay the price.

[marcelo caldas]

Deadlysyns wrote...

Yvonne is better as a blonde. But yes to More Miranda

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