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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...
Can you honestly say that everything Cerberus did was a failure?
1. Rachni warriors. A mistake, and admitted as such by Miranda, due to underestimating the intelligence and cognitive abilities of the Rachni.
2. Thorian Creepers. An indirect experiment done on behalf of Cerberus by ExoGeni, and a successful one until events beyond Cerberus or ExoGeni's control (namely the Geth invasion on Feros and Shepard killing the Thorian) caused the Creepers to go insane and attack.
3. Husk experimentation. We don't have the context of the entire experiment, and we don't know what Cerberus was trying to accomplish. Without a named goal, we can't label this as a success or failure based on Cerberus alone. Ultimately, it did fail, but it was due to Shepard's intervention, not due to any experimental crises shown. Granted, Cerberus would've done better to keep their information even more tightly secured.
4. Akuze. My Shepard was the only survivor, and we of course have no information on Cerberus' goals or motive. This cannot be distinguished as a success or failure without information in mind.
5. Lazarus. Unquestionably a success.
6. Overlord. From a purely technical standpoint, the project, despite the costs in personnel, did indeed achieve a way to control the Geth. It achieved its purpose, even if it was in a semi-rogue state. I'd label it a partial success.
7. Teltin: The purpose of this was to create enhanced biotic capability in humans. This succeeded. Jack was created to be an ultra-powerful biotic, and she is indeed an ultra-powerful biotic. Even though the facility was rogue, I would still call it a partial success due to accomplishing its goal.
8. Firewalker: A success, even though it was internally betrayed by a scientist who sold out the project to the Collectors. The Geth also heavily interfered with the project. However, the Hammerhead was field-tested and approved, and the Prothean artifact was recovered and studied, though much of the information was simply beyond the ability to be understood to modern science.
9. The Derelict Reaper: A success. The Reaper IFF was recovered and direct information about the Reapers themselves was gleaned from the derelict Reaper, even at the cost of the crew. Also, the weapon used by the civilization that destroyed the Reaper was recovered.
Name any others?
Euurgh. Let's look at this again.
1. Agreed.
2. Fair enough.
3. Based on Sanctuary, we can probably assume they were looking for ways to control them. Sensible goal, I'll let it slide.
4. Here's where we get into the dregs- you can't give Akuze a pass for not knoweing the exact goal because the method was still stupid and pointlessly evil. Whatever they were trying to do, it must have had something to do with studying thresher maws and there are so many ways they could have done it that didn't involve sacrificing soldiers. You don't study sharks by strapping steaks to unsuspecting snorkellers. The fact that they were human soldiers, the race that Cerberus is supposedly trying to prop up, makes it all the more ridiculous.
5. Except for the fact that mechs killed all but 3 people and they apparently didn't try to retrive any of the all-important data on the cure for death. If the survival of Shepard is more important to Cerberus than the potentially miraculous Project Lazarus technology, then their priorities and level of basic competence is even worse than I thought.
6. The geth weren't controlled, they were running wild. Plus, Gavin only did what he did because the Illusive Man was rushing him. It wouldn't have been unreasonable for him to just explain TIM that he'd made an important breakthrough and needed a bit more time to iron out all the kinks and maybe build a less traumatic crucifix-esque harness for his mentally challenged brother. As it stands, at least one of Archer and TIM was being evil for the sake of it there.
7. Jack never would have been useful to them without Shepard. I forget when she escaped, but there would have been a good few years between the horrific mad science death lab closing down with everyone either dead or abandoning ship to join the Alliance, and the unexpected return of investment in having the one survivor who hates your guts and wants to kill you and all your guys grudgingly working for you via proxy.
8. I never played Firewalker, but it hardly counts since Shepard was doing all the work. I will give Cerberus credit for understanding they get their best work done when it isn't by their own staff.
9. Are you kidding? All the scientists were indoctrinated and huskified and you call that a success? At this point, Shepard is practically Cerberus' Almighty Janitor, cleaning up the messes they make with a weary sigh and showing more knowledge and competency than any of the overpaid higher-ups whose toilets he diligently scrubs. Can you blame him for leaving as soon as the Collectors were done with?
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