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[staindgrey]

I've had a decent mix of great players with those horrible ones. I've had similar experiences of feeling like the only competent one, e.g. when my basic human soldier outscored two N7 Destroyers and an N7 Fury.

The skilled players are dwindling because they're bored. Most of my immediate friends who I know are good at the game have moved on by now, and I have to drag them back by whining for a bit in their party. (Not really, but kinda). It's unfortunate, but that's how online shooter communities go, unless they're named CoD or Halo.

[Outlawstar15a2]

aarnold1 wrote...

Outlawstar15a2 wrote...

BDelacroix wrote...

I've been in many games that wipe on wave 10 even in silver lately. I don't know what is going on.

The Human gene pool has been getting shallower in recent decades it is a ongoing problem and now it has spilled over into ME3. Tsk tsk.

@X M3TH0D1C4L X: The reason people guard their consumerables is because they treat them like investments in order to minimize time spent recovering from a lost game. "This game is on wave V if I burn W medi gel on this wave that means this team sucks. There's a X% probability that we will lose this match resulting in a mission failed with credits reduced by 50-75%. Which means I will have wasted Y minutes and Z seconds therefore this mission is a wash and is not worth the consumables as it will probably take 1 game to recover my investment of consumables and 2 games before I can start farming or playing for credits again. Again this is unacceptable. We will not use consumables we will find another way. Releasing control and finding a new game."

I thought games were for fun.  How can someone say they had fun if they got mad?  At least in the MLB, the players get paid big bucks so anger is expected if someone misses a toss.  Peeps in ME3 multi act like they are paid milllions to show up to the game and missed their bonus when they lost the game due to someone's error.

Nevertheless there it is. It's not just ME3 MP it's gaming in general. People play a game with a specific goal in mind in this game it's to max your manifest for most people. That being said people will not brook games or people who derail or lengthen the time necessary to achieve their goal all that angst, paranoia (I can tell you all about paranoia :XD), and impatience stems from them wanting to achieve a goal with maximum efficiency and least time spent. They lack the ability to relax and that's gaming in general yet if there was no specific goal to work towards people would get bored almost instantly and the community would fail. It's a defining paradox of gaming.

Gamers by their very nature are competitive and efficiency minded (something real world companies are beginning to take notice of for purposes of employment.) So it's understandable they would have difficulty calming down. What kills me when I see people consumable hog is the fact that 9/10 times by them doing so they throw the game for everyone and they hit their own efficiency twice.

One by wasting the time it took to play the failed game and in two in the longer run by perpetuating a condition in the ME3 MP population that stalls other people and thus making them take longer to get the consumables they need and thus slowing them down and increasing the chance that you will eventually fall prey to your own selfishness again because if I, and I'm going to use me in the general sense for the sake of cutting it short please don't take offense, lose my consumables due to your throwing the game it's screws me over in the long run because if it becomes a pattern I run out and the next game I play I become less effective for my team, they suffer, and you again will suffer sense somewhere along the line your run into doing the exact same thing because their hurting for consumables to. And I am seeing it more and more often and for me it's becoming a problem.

Modifié par Outlawstar15a2, 10 septembre 2012 - 04:32 .

[Hyp3rpyrexia]

What does pug actually stand for? im getting that its a completely useless player but what do the actual letters mean?

[Road Wulf]

Honestly, dumb players are dumb no matter what difficulty they're in. I got two randoms, on FBW, in a SILVER MATCH, who ran down the to the Farming spot. Me and the other guy in the match proceeded to then destroy everything and made sure nothing ever got to their farming areas. Every objective, these two were downed constantly, rezzing each other because they clearly didn't know what the hell they were doing.

[Outlawstar15a2]

Hyp3rpyrexia wrote...

What does pug actually stand for? im getting that its a completely useless player but what do the actual letters mean?

Public Unknown Game.

Usually U/U/G. Or Unknown Map/Unknown Enemy/Gold.

Modifié par Outlawstar15a2, 10 septembre 2012 - 04:34 .

[whateverman7]

i dont understand what you asking: what do you mean by win? are you talking about getting the highest score or finishing the match?....to me, the only thing i count as winning in mp is finishing through wave 11...score doesnt matter to me cause if you dont make it through wave 11 (at least 10), you lost....with that said, we (i include myself cause i dont host matches and i always play public, so i'm random all the time i play) win in gold/plat cause we play as a team, have good team mates, and/or are just that damn good...

also, it seems the point of this thread was just to brag about your score and what you accomplished in the match....at least that's what i got from it

[upinya slayin]

Outlawstar15a2 wrote...

Hyp3rpyrexia wrote...

What does pug actually stand for? im getting that its a completely useless player but what do the actual letters mean?

Public Unknown Game.

Usually U/U/G. Or Unknown Map/Unknown Enemy/Gold.

eevryone has a different opinion on it apparently. I've always known it as pick up game, which is an expression thats been around since before video games existed and was used in playing sports with friends, when you go to a park and have a pick up game with whoever was there. man how times have changed lol

[Ziegrif]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...
And then, there's the seemingly bad players. People that run a Drell Vanguard with a Javelin II and a Claymore V, no or little equipment to speak of and sometimes untterly nonsensical gear (like an Operative Gear on said Drellguard). But those do definately NOT always belong to the above category of simply "bad" players. Some of those are the kind of people like a Ziegrif ( - ), that just play a specific setup for the hell of it

So my insanity has breached the point of me becoming a type of player?



I did read yer post, which is rare because I avoid Walls of text usually.

I... really have no opinion on this topic. As of now at least. Well not a coherent opinion really.

90% of my games are PuGs. I take what I can get. And I try to make the games last to the later waves and to extraction.

I've met 1 absolutely annoying person EVER, (not you neofelis ), and I still played with the kid. So I dunno. PuGs are a mixed bag you just gotta roll with the punches.

[Najarati]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Gold PUGs are infuriating at the moment.

I actually equipped two uncommon weapons to my GE and started doing solo Silver matches, which actually turned out to be the most fun I've had playing this game all day.

This is why I still play silvers so often; they're just fun and fun is the reason I play.

[Zero132132]

It can be a beautiful thing when a good team comes together. Always a great moment when, in a Gold match, someone says "Is this silver?" due to the level of roflstompage. I always feel like I'm holding teams back at that point, though.

[Outlawstar15a2]

upinya slayin wrote...

Outlawstar15a2 wrote...

Hyp3rpyrexia wrote...

What does pug actually stand for? im getting that its a completely useless player but what do the actual letters mean?

Public Unknown Game.

Usually U/U/G. Or Unknown Map/Unknown Enemy/Gold.

eevryone has a different opinion on it apparently. I've always known it as pick up game, which is an expression thats been around since before video games existed and was used in playing sports with friends, when you go to a park and have a pick up game with whoever was there. man how times have changed lol

Well if that's the case I think we should focus on ironing out our terminology before trying to clean up the server. Honestly who will take you seriusly if you can't agree on the meaning of three capitalized letters. LOL.

[Zero132132]

whateverman7 wrote...

i dont understand what you asking: what do you mean by win? are you talking about getting the highest score or finishing the match?....to me, the only thing i count as winning in mp is finishing through wave 11...score doesnt matter to me cause if you dont make it through wave 11 (at least 10), you lost....with that said, we (i include myself cause i dont host matches and i always play public, so i'm random all the time i play) win in gold/plat cause we play as a team, have good team mates, and/or are just that damn good...

also, it seems the point of this thread was just to brag about your score and what you accomplished in the match....at least that's what i got from it

Win, to me, means getting all 3 objectives. I don't care so much what happens after that. I usually won't bother with extraction. (EDIT) I will if the team is going for it, but I won't use consumables unless there's a reason for it, like a weekend op or something.

I'm not good enough to brag about score. The OP was about frustration, not pride. But I think I got the answer to my question, at least for gold games; most randoms play camping strategies, so plenty of people are surprised when they see someone play more aggressively, and they try to emulate that behavior after seeing the large score. Since they don't have as much experience with aggressive playstyles, this leads to more deaths, requiring more revives, and generally to players underperforming outside of the strategy they're familiar with.

I think that's it, at least, for gold runs. I think the Platinum run last night was just bad luck, either with getting ****ty randoms in lobbies, or just ending up with a few people that were really off their game for a match.

Modifié par Zero132132, 10 septembre 2012 - 05:04 .

[whateverman7]

Zero132132 wrote...

Win, to me, means getting all 3 objectives. I don't care so much what happens after that. I usually won't bother with extraction. (EDIT) I will if the team is going for it, but I won't use consumables unless there's a reason for it, like a weekend op or something.

I'm not good enough to brag about score. The OP was about frustration, not pride. But I think I got the answer to my question, at least for gold games; most randoms play camping strategies, so plenty of people are surprised when they see someone play more aggressively, and they try to emulate that behavior after seeing the large score. Since they don't have as much experience with aggressive playstyles, this leads to more deaths, requiring more revives, and generally to players underperforming outside of the strategy they're familiar with.

I think that's it, at least, for gold runs. I think the Platinum run last night was just bad luck, either with getting ****ty randoms in lobbies, or just ending up with a few people that were really off their game for a match.

aight, i get what you mean by win now...we on the same page there, except i go for extractions no matter what...i'm talking, i use consumables and all...

you may say that, but that's how your op came across...you mentioned everything you accomplished scorewise, even telling what the second highest score was...that is bragging, cause you couldve asked the same question without mentioning that stuff....anyway, that's no big deal/not the focus of the thread, just my opinion on it

as for strategy: yes, we (randoms) do camp, initially....reason being in most cases it's an all new team and you dont know how your mates play....so you camp to get a feel for them, their play style, and it helps you to stay alive if you gotta save a wave....when someone joins and is aggressive, the others usually still camp cause they trying to feel out whether that player is good at being aggressive; also, they trying to feel out the other players...if a random team stays together for a couple games, they tend to camp less and become more aggressive, cause they now have a feel of how their mates play

yea, it seems you just ran into bad game last night....dont let that 1 game make you judge the rest of us.....us randoms arent that bad

[Ziegrif]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...
Just giving you the benefit of doubt/leeway you deserve. You are a great player and I wouldn't want you getting kicked out of lobbies for whatever inane setups you chose if I can help it (though I very much doubt the kind of players that would kick you would read my post, duh).

Also, maybe you feel indebted to me now in some kind of sorts, meaning I can count on your loyalty should my plan to take over the world proceed to phase two.

edited://
Typo and a small revelation.

Only time I've ever got kicked was cuz of I rolled a lvl 1 krogan with newbies or that one time I tried a 5 second cooldown with pull. Otherwise I get to stay for who knows why. Even the adrenaline rushless soldier gets the benefit of doubt at times.

Also if you do have a solid plan (better than last time. Flying flaming jellyfish? REALLY?!)
Yeah I'll join up. Just make sure you got a good political setup for the aftermath then contact me by squirrel.
I'd rather take care of the dominating and play second fiddle with dictatorship.

[FynAch]

Asebstos wrote...

friedricethem0n wrote...

My back might finally give way from carrying way too many Krogans (they weigh a ton) and Batarians...

People other than me play Krogan/Batarian characters on Platinum? I'm shocked.


And they're bad with them? I'm saddened.

....Why does this remind me of Bishop?.....I can actually hear him saying this.

[Chealec]

X M3TH0D1C4L X wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

They don't win them unless I am alive.

Period.

As soon as I go down they all start dying within 25 seconds guaranteed.

So 90% of the time I have to medigel anyways.

This.

No one bothers to use a medigel or missle in a time of need. I end up using all my gel to revive them and if I go down, its over.

I don't know what it is about randoms not using their consumables.

Although I was a random in somebody else's game a while back, 2 Americans (presumably friends) had started a lobby and were happily chatting away when I (and another random) got dropped in.

Glacier/Cerberus/Gold - speed run I figured, specially looking at the classes the first 2 guys had chosen - I think 1 was a Destroyer and the other a GI. I figured I go with a complementary Turian Techburster (Sentinel + Falcon + Disruptor ammo)...

I think it was an assassination on wave 6 and I just happened to be in the right place at the right time and rocketed an entire spawn plus the target (kill streak) ... the other random guy got another.

I think the comments from the guy hosting were something like....

"Whoah, was that a rocket? - what's wrong with these randoms? They're actually using consumables?! ... and ... they're actually good!"

It's always nice to surprise people by being a random that doesn't completely suck

Modifié par Chealec, 10 septembre 2012 - 06:05 .

[aarnold1]

Najarati wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Gold PUGs are infuriating at the moment.

I actually equipped two uncommon weapons to my GE and started doing solo Silver matches, which actually turned out to be the most fun I've had playing this game all day.

This is why I still play silvers so often; they're just fun and fun is the reason I play.

Ditto.  Silver has less "structure" and Marine corp hardship.  I'll play a gold game for some quick cash or if I want to try out a tactic under intense stress, but I like to relax when I play and Silver is good enough.  And no, I don't have to have level X on everything, especially UR and Promos.  Nothing wrong with those who want that, live and let live.  It's just funny how casual players get slammed as hard as famers do.

[corporal doody]

aarnold1 wrote...

Najarati wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Gold PUGs are infuriating at the moment.

I actually equipped two uncommon weapons to my GE and started doing solo Silver matches, which actually turned out to be the most fun I've had playing this game all day.

This is why I still play silvers so often; they're just fun and fun is the reason I play.

Ditto.  Silver has less "structure" and isnt Marine Corps hardcore!! .  I'll play a gold game for some quick cash or if I want to try out a tactic under intense stress, but I like to relax when I play and Silver is good enough.  And no, I don't have to have level X on everything, especially UR and Promos.  Nothing wrong with those who want that, live and let live.  It's just funny how casual players get slammed as hard as famers do.

fix'd.

for me silver is mindless fun. run around with goofy builds and to test out certain techniques. it isnt as stressful as it once was back in the early days. i could care less what someone else is doing and how they are playing..so long as we get those creds...and if we dont..no big woop.

and yeah...people here on the BSN slam casual players...because they dont post here as often as some of us do. they aint hip or cool as we are. many of us that frequent the BSN boards are long time fans and dedicated players. we spend more time at it so we have more and better stuff. That doesnt translate to being UBER though...which is contrary to the popular belief herein. We awesome..they bad!

and who gives a crap about "farmers"?  you receive creds for completing stuff so you can buy stuff. there is only one type of game mode. How else you gonna gain creds?  this aint like playing "Oregan Trail."

just my two cents....but i want a receipt.

Modifié par corporal doody, 11 septembre 2012 - 03:37 .

[HBSWong]

I completed 2 platinum farming W/G/P games with randoms as I only have an hour to play yesterday night.
I do have to admit that good platinum pub games are getting harder and harder to find nowadays due to the drop in the number of players still actively playing this game.

But still there are randoms who can play platinum games decently as evident in that I am still able to join random pug games and successfully complete till wave 10 objectives.

It's about utilizing an effective strategy and being able to execute it successfully.

I see no reason why randoms cannot learn how to farm platinum games effectively.

Modifié par HBSWong, 11 septembre 2012 - 07:56 .

[A MIAOW]

I don't really mind how PuGs doing in gold because this is just gold.

But PUG in platinum, I am not sure. It is not supposed to play platinum without 2 friends now.

[darkpassenger2342]

krogan headbutts.

[banans_huligans]

I play only pugs and randoms are not that bad, just select lobbies as there some hopeless ones out there. For the ppl that claim gold is walk in the park I really suggest to play in those hopeless nub lobbies, maybe they will learn something out of it while you'll be having your walk

Only thing that annoys me in the gold pugs is that even in objective waves a lot of ppl wont medigel and will wait till the last moment to be reved and only then medigel. FFS when you have brutes and banshees stomping in your hack zone and marauders/ravagers picking team apart from the distance there is no time for reving your lazy ass