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#1
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Look I understand.
EA probably pushed you, like a slavemaster would push poor underfed slaves, to work harder and faster and that you don't want to skip that fat bonus that was promised or whatever, if you reached your deadlines (and perhaps even certain sales figures). You're no longer twentyone years old, but you've reached the end of twenty and some of you even close to hitting fourty. You got a family now, kids, bills, houses, cars and all that stuff that needs to be paid. 
So screw us ungrateful buyers for not loving your game right? We're not the one providing you with a paycheck you worked so hard for, right?

Wrong. We are, and you seem to have forgotten that. Your check might come from EA, but their money comes from US!

Hell, I'm sure there are some of you, who can understand the outrage and hate being controlled by EA, but you don't want to lose that sweet money and security your job gives you either. But you know what, you probably will.
If Bioware keeps underperfoming and keeps getting negative messages, the top at EA will probably just do what they did to all the other great studios who thought they were untouchable, and just flat out kill Bioware.

Why shouldn't they? They probably look at the budget spent on the games you made and see how much they profit from it, and if there's barely any profit made, then the choice of axing you, and in turn save a lot of money spent paying your salary, seems logical to a guy in a business suit.
Hell ME2 turned out to be a reasonable good cashcow, with great DLCs. But after the recent fiascos, TOR, DA2 and now ME3 you've turned people off. You know you're in a hole of crap when it's even reported on the BBC and on CNN.

Future looks grim, doesn't it?

What could the options be then?

A: Convince EA, to stop pushing those idiotic deadlines and their just as foolish ideas on you, and that doing the way you do it will be far better in terms of revenue. Yes, you're not Blizzard, who have a far easier time convicing companies to leave them be (for those about to write Activision, Activision has ZERO control over Blizzard) cause their games make so much money it borders on insanity, but you need to try and instead of just being a spineless company man.

B: Screw EA and just form your own studios. Risky if it doesn't work out, but look at it like this. Look how vocal your main audience is about you. Whether it's good or bad people care. Hell they even raised around 70,000 dollars to charity cause they hated the ending so much. Don't you think they will support you if you give EA the finger and make your own company?

C: Keep being a slave to EA and hope you won't get axed while alienating more and more of your audience to try to appeal to an already oversaturated market. Certain doom imminent.

In an ideal world A sounds like the perfect choice. But EA isn't doing so good from what I've come to understand. And EA doing the right choice.. well it happens a few times, but in general they're known for the right reasons as the evil company.

I don't know man, does anyone?

Any way, if you want to at least get back to our good graces, (CAUSE WE'RE THE ONE THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR YOU BUYING THAT NEW AUDI IN CASE YOU FORGOT!) you should suck it up, get rid of that phoney "artistic" pride you have (You're not an artist by the way, you make video games for entertainment. Video games aren't considered childish anymore, you don't have to use that fake art excuse to justify what you do (make games for a living) and what you enjoy doing in your spare time (play games)) and just flat out apologise and make Dragon Age 3 the best damn game ever. It's too late now I think for ME 3, you had your chance and you blew it away with the EC instead of just making a real new ending DLC. Your arrogant attitude didn't help one bit either.

Consumers have also wisened up now, that the mainstream media are bought and paid for jackalls that will give any big budget AAA game from the big companies a high score. We know that sites like IGN aren't on our sides. They're a **** to whatever company grants them special early access and other stuff hidden under the table.

Oh and to the pretentious "We're making art, not games" crowd that might read this. Go screw yourselves. You know what people want after they complete a game? A sense of satisfaction, a sense of money well spent and most of all, replaying the game. Just cause you failed to become a big writer who couldn't move beyond the Dragonlance type of stuff, doesn't mean you have the right to screw us with your failed idea of what makes a good story. A good game has to have a good ending ending, that makes you fistpump and go "**** yeah! That was awesome". So take your head out of your butt and start making games that doesn't spit players in the face after completing it. Games that make US, the players, feel awesome. Not you!

Sorry for all the spelling and grammar mistakes.

Edit: I fully recognise that I might be 100% wrong in all my assumptions. But hey, in my own honest opinion, I think I'm not.

Modifié par M25105, 10 septembre 2012 - 09:13 .


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Wordweaver2010

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I beg to differ on almost all counts, so I will not even deign to restate them for the sake of the argument. I can understand your bitterness to a certain degree, but the degree to which I can understand it certainly is also very small indeed.

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They said that they were listening but it turns out that they were not at all.

Ive said that the IT was there moment to turn the gaming world on its head and with the content in-game supporting the IT it seemed like a no-brainer. I guess BioWare lost there minds. EC?...what the hell was that bioware?!

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Brovikk Rasputin

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The ending post-EC satisfies me. Don't listen to this guy, BW

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Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

The ending post-EC satisfies me. Don't listen to this guy, BW


If Bioware did a turd and fed it to you, you would still be satisfied.

Oh wait they did.

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Brovikk Rasputin

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I am disappoint wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

The ending post-EC satisfies me. Don't listen to this guy, BW


If Bioware did a turd and fed it to you, you would still be satisfied.

Oh wait they did.

Being wrong sure is fun, huh?

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Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

I am disappoint wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

The ending post-EC satisfies me. Don't listen to this guy, BW


If Bioware did a turd and fed it to you, you would still be satisfied.

Oh wait they did.

Being wrong sure is fun, huh?


I wouldn't know, I'm always right.

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KevShep

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Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

I am disappoint wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

The ending post-EC satisfies me. Don't listen to this guy, BW


If Bioware did a turd and fed it to you, you would still be satisfied.

Oh wait they did.

Being wrong sure is fun, huh?


most people do not like the ending no matter how they feed it to us.

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Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

The ending post-EC satisfies me. Don't listen to this guy, BW


Oh, don't worry. They haven't listened to the majority of their ( previous ) fanbase. I don't think you need to tell them not to. They do fine by themselves.

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You tell 'em M25105! Surely they'll take heed this time!

Related note: Ending wasn't great, but it's been 6 months. I'm not sure what the point is anymore. It didn't hurt my family, or crash my car because it had been drinking too much and stole my keys for a joyride. Half a year is a long time.

Modifié par chasemme, 10 septembre 2012 - 09:15 .


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Double post

Modifié par chasemme, 10 septembre 2012 - 09:13 .


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Ridwan

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chasemme wrote...

You tell 'em M25105! Surely they'll take heed this time!

Related note: Ending wasn't great, but it's been 6 months. I'm not sure what the point is anymore.


My words? No. When a company email that reads, "We're sorry to inform you that the following personal has been released from their contracts. Blablabla." then they might pay attention. They're [EA] already on a firingspree after the TOR fiasco.

Modifié par M25105, 10 septembre 2012 - 09:15 .


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dorktainian

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the ending just sucks. that is all. move on.

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M25105, chasemme is correct. I feel Bioware turned their backs on and ignored the core fans. It has been too long for a response. I'm just going to turn my back on them and ignore them. I believe they will understand when they release the next BW labeled game.

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I know, but I also like to remind them how much they messed up. Holding the flag up for the angry consumers. *plays guitar like a hippie and sings some lame song about how we've not forgotten the past and blabla*

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I'm going to just let them crumble. That is what they get after a flop like this. The only reason I'm still on the forums is so maybe, just maybe, if someone else reads threads like this they will decide not to buy from Bioware again.

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KevShep wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

I am disappoint wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

The ending post-EC satisfies me. Don't listen to this guy, BW


If Bioware did a turd and fed it to you, you would still be satisfied.

Oh wait they did.

Being wrong sure is fun, huh?


most people do not like the ending no matter how they feed it to us.


People keep saying that, but there's really no way to substantiate it. Given that a large percentage like the ending post-EC and an ever larger percentage never cared enough to even come to BSN in the first place. I'd say the haters would definitely have to be less than 50%. In any case, there's no way to prove it either way.

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Brovikk Rasputin

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I'd like some numbers on those "majority" and "most fans" claims you people keep throwing around.

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Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

I'd like some numbers on those "majority" and "most fans" claims you people keep throwing around.


There has been demographic polls, the majority of fans dislike the ending while a small minority including yourself like it.
I know you're a kid, but really do your research before asking big boy questions.

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I'd like the "numbers" you are thinking of. If you want to understand the claims we are throwing around, read the threads from 1-2 months after the game came out. Just because many people gave up or became tired of being ignored or just quit caring or whatever the **** made them quit posting doesn't mean it didn't happen. Go look them up. Start counting. You will be counting for a while.

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chasemme wrote...

You tell 'em M25105! Surely they'll take heed this time!

Related note: Ending wasn't great, but it's been 6 months. I'm not sure what the point is anymore. It didn't hurt my family, or crash my car because it had been drinking too much and stole my keys for a joyride. Half a year is a long time.

And there are people who are just finishing the game. Not everyone bought it on release day. The fact that threads are popping up everyday about the ending six months later is a testament to how much the ending truly dissapointed a vast number of the Mass Effect playerbase.

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I've never seen this before? the ideas presented are so fresh and exciting! Tell me more! /sarcasm

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I am disappoint wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

I'd like some numbers on those "majority" and "most fans" claims you people keep throwing around.


There has been demographic polls, the majority of fans dislike the ending while a small minority including yourself like it.
I know you're a kid, but really do your research before asking big boy questions.


No polls taken on these forums, or any other for that matter, are ever going to be truly demographic. Those that use the BSN, while varied, do not represent the entirety of the Mass Effect fan base. I have lots of friends that are "hardcore" Mass Effect fans, people that have played all the games, read the books and comics, and understand and talk about the lore, but I'm the only one who ever comes to the forums to do so. I'm not going to say one way which camp is the "majority" only that asking the people on the forums is only going to get you so far.

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Andy the Black wrote...

I am disappoint wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

I'd like some numbers on those "majority" and "most fans" claims you people keep throwing around.


There has been demographic polls, the majority of fans dislike the ending while a small minority including yourself like it.
I know you're a kid, but really do your research before asking big boy questions.


No polls taken on these forums, or any other for that matter, are ever going to be truly demographic. Those that use the BSN, while varied, do not represent the entirety of the Mass Effect fan base. I have lots of friends that are "hardcore" Mass Effect fans, people that have played all the games, read the books and comics, and understand and talk about the lore, but I'm the only one who ever comes to the forums to do so. I'm not going to say one way which camp is the "majority" only that asking the people on the forums is only going to get you so far.


Your friends probably dislike the ending and plot.

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I am disappoint wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

I am disappoint wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

The ending post-EC satisfies me. Don't listen to this guy, BW


If Bioware did a turd and fed it to you, you would still be satisfied.

Oh wait they did.

Being wrong sure is fun, huh?


I wouldn't know, I'm always right.

Legion:We say 2+1=3. They say 2+2=4.

Netherone ofyou guy are wrong. How you feel about the ending is up to you.