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[DragonRacer]

Part 1:

It is a melancholy object to those who play in the Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer of this great game or frequent its corresponding message board, when they see the Gold lobbies, the Platinum lobbies, and the forum, crowded with beggars of the casual kind, followed by N7 ranks of three, four, or six, all with only one appearance option unlocked and importuning every elite player for a carry. These players, instead of being able to work in private lobbies with friends for their honest manifests, are forced to employ all their time in strolling to beg credits and experience for their helpless selves: who as they grow up either turn leechers for want of work, or leave their dear native difficulty level to fight for the Platinum or Gold credits, or sell themselves to the Random Number Generator Store.
I think it is agreed by all parties that this prodigious number of randoms in the arms, or on the backs, or at the heels of their carriers, is in the present deplorable state of the community a very great additional grievance; and, therefore, whoever could find out a fair, cheap, and easy method of making these randoms sound, useful members of the community, would deserve so well of the public as to have his statue set up for a preserver of the nation.

I shall now therefore humbly propose my own thoughts, which I hope will not be liable to the least objection.

I have been assured by a very knowing Elite Player of my acquaintance on XBox, that a young healthy random well nursed is at N7 level 119 or under a most delicious, nourishing, and wholesome food, whether stewed, roasted, baked, or boiled; and I make no doubt that it will equally serve in a fricassee or a ragout. A newbie random will make two dishes at an entertainment for friends; and when the player dines solo, the fore or hind quarter will make a reasonable dish, and seasoned with a little pepper or salt will be very good boiled on the fourth day, especially in winter.

I can think of no one objection, that will possibly be raised against this proposal, unless it should be urged, that the number of people will be thereby much lessened in the community. This I freely own, and 'twas indeed one principal design in offering it to the world. I desire the reader will observe, that I calculate my remedy for this one individual Community of Mass Effect.

After all, I am not so violently bent upon my own opinion as to reject any offer proposed by wise men, which shall be found equally innocent, cheap, easy, and effectual. But before something of that kind shall be advanced in contradiction to my scheme, and offering a better, I desire the author or authors will be pleased maturely to consider two points. First, as things now stand, how they will be able to find credits and experience for a hundred thousand useless random mouths. And secondly, there being a round million of creatures in gaming figure throughout this community, whose whole subsistence put into a common stock would leave them in debt two millions credits, adding those who are leechers by profession to the bulk of elite players: I desire those players who dislike my overture, and may perhaps be so bold as to attempt an answer, that they will first ask the carriers of these randoms, whether they would not at this day think it a great happiness to have been sold for food, in the manner I prescribe, and thereby have avoided such a perpetual scene of misfortunes as they have since gone through by the oppression of BSN members, the impossibility of paying for better weapons without money or credits, the want of shared experience, with neither their own lobbies nor friends to keep them from the inclemencies of the Quick Match, and the most inevitable prospect of entailing the like or greater miseries upon their breed for ever.

I profess, in the sincerity of my heart, that I have not the least personal interest in endeavoring to promote this necessary work, having no other motive than the public good of my community, by advancing our skills, providing for and relieving the randoms, and giving some pleasure to the elite.

The End

Part 2:

Seriously, what is up with all these threads slamming randoms? If you want to slam newbies, that’s one thing (of which I differ in opinion, but whatever). But randoms, which could be newbies, experienced, or anything in between? Just seems weird, guys. How did you meet a lot of your friends that you claim are the only ones worthy of your presence in this game? Are they literally ALL from real life, gaming groups, or BSN? Have you really never encountered good random players? I highly doubt it. Truth is, there are good random and bad randoms. Just the way it is. I just find it hilarious to see all this anti-random talk when you, yourself, are a random to those randoms as well. Majority of my friends list came from… you guessed it, random lobbies where I found an awesome player or two time and time again.

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tl:dr Part 1: I parodied Jonathan Swift’s “A Modest Proposal” and suggested we solve the “random” problem by eating them.

tl:dr Part 2: We are all random to somebody at some point. All these “Randoms Are Awful/Dear Random Who Stinks” threads are silly. I am not mad, but I am slightly perplexed/not-sure-if-amused-or-confused.

[ABjerre]

Not starting every Word with a capital letter could be a nice place to start making one self more usefull.

[N7 Whiskey]

My "Dear Random" thread wasn't about him being a bad player, it was about him being a know-it-all when he didn't know WTF he was talking about. I think we've all run into players like that at some point or another.

[Titus Thongger]

zzz tldr

[N7 Whiskey]

ABjerre wrote...

Not starting every Word with a capital letter could be a nice place to start making one self more usefull.

Actually, he should edit his OP and capitalize every word in his post.  That...... would be awesome!

[k1ngl1ves]

WTH!!! I saw the title, and thought this would be at least a 3 part thread... BS!!!

[CmnDwnWrkn]

Yes, we are all "randoms" at some point.  But not everyone plays at a difficulty level that is clearly above them.  And that's what most of the complaints involve - bad players who play Gold looking to be carried, and who end up burdening their team.

[OblivionDawn]

ABjerre wrote...

Not starting every Word with a capital letter could be a nice place to start making one self more usefull.

----Joke---->

[Head]


At OP:
So, in short, they're fools and we should eat them.

Modifié par OblivionDawn, 10 septembre 2012 - 04:24 .

[Learn To Love Yourself]

Edit: Sorry, read post through

Modifié par Jack Crapper, 10 septembre 2012 - 04:52 .

[lazysundae]

DragonRacer wrote...

Part 1:

It is a melancholy object to those who play in the Mass Effect 3 Muliplayer of this great game or frequent its corresponding message board,

I got this far and couldn't get any further.  Combo of needing moar coffee, and reading too many resumes with BS overly wordy objectives that don't make sense.

Figured I would post anyway.  

[upinya slayin]

DragonRacer wrote...

Part 1:

It is a melancholy object to those who play in the Mass Effect 3 Muliplayer of this great game or frequent its corresponding message board, when they see the Gold lobbies, the Platinum lobbies, and the forum, crowded with beggars of the casual kind, followed by N7 ranks of three, four, or six, all with only one appearance option unlocked and importuning every elite player for a carry. These players, instead of being able to work in private lobbies with friends for their honest manifests, are forced to employ all their time in strolling to beg credits and experience for their helpless selves: who as they grow up either turn leechers for want of work, or leave their dear native difficulty level to fight for the Platinum or Gold credits, or sell themselves to the Random Number Generator Store.
I think it is agreed by all parties that this prodigious number of randoms in the arms, or on the backs, or at the heels of their carriers, is in the present deplorable state of the community a very great additional grievance; and, therefore, whoever could find out a fair, cheap, and easy method of making these randoms sound, useful members of the community, would deserve so well of the public as to have his statue set up for a preserver of the nation.

I shall now therefore humbly propose my own thoughts, which I hope will not be liable to the least objection.

I have been assured by a very knowing Elite Player of my acquaintance on XBox, that a young healthy random well nursed is at N7 level 119 or under a most delicious, nourishing, and wholesome food, whether stewed, roasted, baked, or boiled; and I make no doubt that it will equally serve in a fricassee or a ragout. A newbie random will make two dishes at an entertainment for friends; and when the player dines solo, the fore or hind quarter will make a reasonable dish, and seasoned with a little pepper or salt will be very good boiled on the fourth day, especially in winter.

I can think of no one objection, that will possibly be raised against this proposal, unless it should be urged, that the number of people will be thereby much lessened in the community. This I freely own, and 'twas indeed one principal design in offering it to the world. I desire the reader will observe, that I calculate my remedy for this one individual Community of Mass Effect.

After all, I am not so violently bent upon my own opinion as to reject any offer proposed by wise men, which shall be found equally innocent, cheap, easy, and effectual. But before something of that kind shall be advanced in contradiction to my scheme, and offering a better, I desire the author or authors will be pleased maturely to consider two points. First, as things now stand, how they will be able to find credits and experience for a hundred thousand useless random mouths. And secondly, there being a round million of creatures in gaming figure throughout this community, whose whole subsistence put into a common stock would leave them in debt two millions credits, adding those who are leechers by profession to the bulk of elite players: I desire those players who dislike my overture, and may perhaps be so bold as to attempt an answer, that they will first ask the carriers of these randoms, whether they would not at this day think it a great happiness to have been sold for food, in the manner I prescribe, and thereby have avoided such a perpetual scene of misfortunes as they have since gone through by the oppression of BSN members, the impossibility of paying for better weapons without money or credits, the want of shared experience, with neither their own lobbies nor friends to keep them from the inclemencies of the Quick Match, and the most inevitable prospect of entailing the like or greater miseries upon their breed for ever.

I profess, in the sincerity of my heart, that I have not the least personal interest in endeavoring to promote this necessary work, having no other motive than the public good of my community, by advancing our skills, providing for and relieving the randoms, and giving some pleasure to the elite.

The End

Part 2:

Seriously, what is up with all these threads slamming randoms? If you want to slam newbies, that’s one thing (of which I differ in opinion, but whatever). But randoms, which could be newbies, experienced, or anything in between? Just seems weird, guys. How did you meet a lot of your friends that you claim are the only ones worthy of your presence in this game? Are they literally ALL from real life, gaming groups, or BSN? Have you really never encountered good random players? I highly doubt it. Truth is, there are good random and bad randoms. Just the way it is. I just find it hilarious to see all this anti-random talk when you, yourself, are a random to those randoms as well. Majority of my friends list came from… you guessed it, random lobbies where I found an awesome player or two time and time again.

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tl:dr Part 1: I parodied Jonathan Swift’s “A Modest Proposal” and suggested we solve the “random” problem by eating them.

tl:dr Part 2: We are all random to somebody at some point. All these “Randoms Are Awful/Dear Random Who Stinks” threads are silly. I am not mad, but I am slightly perplexed/not-sure-if-amused-or-confused.

I don't slam randoms, i do laugh at their ignorance at times though. The main reason is simple, they reach for the stars and fall flat way too often. Personally i worked my way up. I dind't burden better players by playing above my skill level. I didn't even play a silver until i was an N7 of 120. then you get these people who are a N7 of 50ish scoring 13k in a gold game and they think its all good and they are good enough to be playing gold. newsflash, they aren't. Sure everyone wants to take the easy way out and be carried for quick creds but I'm not a fan of that. They should earn eevrything they have like I did. I don't mind helping out cool people or peeps form teh forums on a difficulty they can't play. At least i know what i'm getting into.

And yes rarely you'll find a good random. I actually had one last night. I had to kick him to make room for slimjim after the game but i sent him a message letting him know he's a good player and i just needed room for a friend. he replied back no rpoblem, i figured that anyway.

[rmccowen]

DragonRacer wrote...

Part 1:

...I have been assured by a very knowing Elite Player of my acquaintance on XBox, that a young healthy random well nursed is at N7 level 119 or under a most delicious, nourishing, and wholesome food, whether stewed, roasted, baked, or boiled; and I make no doubt that it will equally serve in a fricassee or a ragout.

Seems legit. I've got a nice California cab on my wine rack, and some onions and carrots chilling in my veggie crisper; I'd be willing to make a nice PUG bourguignon.

Part 2:

Seriously, what is up with all these threads slamming randoms?

Mostly venting, I think. It's incredibly frustrating to sit down for a couple of hours of ME3 play, get quickmatched into three or four FBWGG lobbies, give up and host your own game, finally get started, and find out that one or two of the (other) random players are going to spend the next twenty minutes herping and derping their way across the map--disrupting spawns, needing to be revived, grabbing the pizza and then walking the wrong way, etc., etc.

Not all random players are bad--and, as you correctly note, everyone is random to other random players. But sometimes you need to write an open letter to the pack of morons who camp the Jade LZ. Sometimes you're in the middle of a no-consumable challenge weekend and a random player opens up with his rocket launcher on Bronze Wave 11 to deal with one Pyro.

The XBox community is bolstered by the console's popularity, but that means a lot of variance in skill. In my experience about half of the people playing at any given time would be worth playing with again; the other half makes you wonder whether and how they manage to get themselves dressed and fed in the morning. Sometimes you need to vent about the latter half, because the other alternative is an incoherent rant to your non-ME-playing spouse, friends, etc.--or maybe an ulcer.

Sometimes I need to vent, at any rate, and so can't begrudge anyone else the same privilege.

EDIT: Fixed link.

Modifié par rmccowen, 10 septembre 2012 - 04:38 .

[Cole Frehlen]

Beautiful post, OP. Simply beautiful.

[BongMong]

I get your points but they are only really valid in a calculator style game. If gold requires a certain N7 level, or a regular score above such and such, or a build calculated to make the biggest numbers out of the game engine, then I don't want to play it.

ME3 is a role playing game. Want to play a fun build in a tough spot? Should be fine in an RPG. If you die a lot and score low then fine, just die well. If you're just playing for the sake of the RNG, well, perhaps an FPS game like COD may be better suited for you?

If some people here like playing the role of the calculator, no wonder they didn't like the ending.

[Gunboat Diplomat]

The notion of gaming elitism leaves me baffled.

Edit: also, reading some of those threads it seems to me the OP is just looking for validation

Modifié par bjiogyof icyr, 10 septembre 2012 - 05:03 .

[BongMong]

Additional:

I wonder, if BW made an Excel front end for the ME3 RNG engine would it keep the calculator 1337s happy? They could feed their builds into that and never need to 'carry' any RPGers again. In turn, us RPGers would never have to 'carry' the story for the micless calcs again. Everyone's a winner!

[BouncyFrag]

Good show! Elites stinking up the board with their drivel is getting a bit old. Sure, the internet wouldn't be the internet if there weren't people b*tching and moaning about something, but the whining is tiresome. Then again, I'm just a dirty random who quite possibly doesn't know his place and should seek the enlightened approval of my betters.
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[Cyonan]

bjiogyof icyr wrote...

The notion of gaming elitism leaves me baffled.

Elitism exists in just about everything that humans do.

To be honest, it wouldn't surprise me to find humans that are elitist about the way somebody sleeps.

[TheWarofArt]

I too have taken a high school English lit class.

[N7Kopper]

inb4someonedoesntgetthe"amodestproposal"reference

[rmccowen]

BongMong wrote...

Additional:

I wonder, if BW made an Excel front end for the ME3 RNG engine would it keep the calculator 1337s happy? They could feed their builds into that and never need to 'carry' any RPGers again. In turn, us RPGers would never have to 'carry' the story for the micless calcs again. Everyone's a winner!

Read this, and get back to me. This gets under my skin for reasons having nothing to do with this board, but there's absolutely nothing that prevents "RPGers" from being mechanically competent.

Or, to put it another way: in the multiplayer game, you're an elite special-ops soldier. What part of that role indicates that you should be playing a deliberately ineffective build?

[Gunboat Diplomat]

Cyonan wrote...

bjiogyof icyr wrote...

The notion of gaming elitism leaves me baffled.

Elitism exists in just about everything that humans do.

To be honest, it wouldn't surprise me to find humans that are elitist about the way somebody sleeps.

True enough.
However, at the end of the day, it's still a frea**ng videogame.

[N7Kopper]

rmccowen wrote...

BongMong wrote...

Additional:

I wonder, if BW made an Excel front end for the ME3 RNG engine would it keep the calculator 1337s happy? They could feed their builds into that and never need to 'carry' any RPGers again. In turn, us RPGers would never have to 'carry' the story for the micless calcs again. Everyone's a winner!

Read this, and get back to me. This gets under my skin for reasons having nothing to do with this board, but there's absolutely nothing that prevents "RPGers" from being mechanically competent.

Or, to put it another way: in the multiplayer game, you're an elite special-ops soldier. What part of that role indicates that you should be playing a deliberately ineffective build?

Or, to put it in an even simpler way, make a good, competent character, then decide their traits, personalities, tics, build, appearance, ect. around the build, not the other way around.

(Unorthodox isn't a bad thing, though - as long as you make it work. My FQI comes to mind)

[whateverman7]

i dont host matches and always play public games, so that makes me a random...with that said: i dont give a **** what the bsn says about us....if you join a lobby i'm in, let's have fun..if you liked how we played last match, stay...if you dont, leave...