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#1
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 people always seem to go on about how the Catalyst is useing broken Logic, which he isn't.


What is something Reapers have told us since day one? That we can not understand their existence. So the Catalysts logic is perfectly sound, we just can't understand it so it seems broken.


if a Theoretical Physicist goes up to a 12 year old kid and starts describeing the Theory of relativity, of course the kid won't understand it, but that does not mean the logic behind the theory is broken.


So Catalysts Logic is not broken, its just what they have always said, us Organics are incapable of understanding it.

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F*** the Catalyst.

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HAL-9000 (Space Odyssey), VIKI (I, Robot) etc. The Catalyst is not something new for Sci-fi

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I can understand it fine, thanks.

How do you think I know it's made of stupid?

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IsaacShep wrote...

HAL-9000 (Space Odyssey), VIKI (I, Robot) etc. The Catalyst is not something new for Sci-fi

I never said he was.

the Reapers have always said we can not understand their existence, which we can't, this is why people don't understand the Catalysts logic, and call it broken, when in fact it is simply to complicated for an organic mind to process properly

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Organics and synthetics clash.  However every account on record has resulted in a "live and let live" truce or organics coming back and winning.  Every war between organics and synthetic has resulted in a synthetic victory because of reaper intervention.

The catalyst is a self fulfilling prophecy.

Modifié par Xellith, 11 septembre 2012 - 12:28 .


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In fact, if we follow the Catalyst's logic all the way, the Reapers will eventually rebel against him. Maybe one or more of them are already on the rebellion slope. If the Reapers' actions alienate the whole galactic forces against them in this cycle, some Reapers could very well feel that the Catalyst is throwing them to their probable death in this very cycle or any future cycle. That is not a safe way to preserve "advanced species".

Modifié par Iconoclaste, 11 septembre 2012 - 12:29 .


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The Night Mammoth

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If it's too complicated for us, as in organics, to understand how was it ever created by BioWare?

This line of reasoning always confuses me. You realize this is all fictional, that eal people, like us, actually made this, right? 

Unless you're implying BioWare are actually a conglomerate of super-intelligent machines.

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 11 septembre 2012 - 12:31 .


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Its not so much his logic that bothers me. He clearly is just an AI stuck in a solution and unable to breach his programming.

Its the fact that we know its rubbish, the games prove that his 'solution' is flawed and doesn't have to be enacted, and we are still pretty much forced to agree with him and do what he says. The game gives us ample examples to refuse him, tell him that he's wrong and blow him to hell and yet we still have to agree with him.

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The universe will end next week.

I'd explain how I know this, but you're all too stupid to understand.

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Xellith wrote...

Organics and synthetics clash.  However every account on record has resulted in a "live and let live" truce or organics coming back and winning.  Every war between organics and synthetic has resulted in a synthetic victory because of reaper intervention.

The catalyst is a self fulfilling prophecy.



Cthulhu42 wrote...

The universe will end next week.

I'd explain how I know this, but you're all too stupid to understand.



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catalyst's logic is bull crap till the end. have fun on your pedal-stool OP.

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

The universe will end next week.

I'd explain how I know this, but you're all too stupid to understand.


Thank you Based God.

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

The universe will end next week.

I'd explain how I know this, but you're all too stupid to understand.

I know. And did you also know it will be re-created in the exact state it was just prior the end in the following second? I could explain that but it's useless, since nobody will notice anything.

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Don't bother. Leviathans already explained they programmed it wrong.

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Go study the concepts of rhetoric, logic, fallacy, and reason and then come back and say he isn't using broken logic with a straight face. I dare ya!

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try to explain a worm about= quantum physics, string or relativity theories, neurology or even the rules of football

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Nyoka wrote...

Don't bother. Leviathans already explained they programmed it wrong.

And they still haven't learned about modesty...

Modifié par Iconoclaste, 11 septembre 2012 - 12:36 .


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Iconoclaste wrote...

Nyoka wrote...

Don't bother. Leviathans already explained they programmed it wrong.

And they still haven't learned about modesty...

:blink:...:blush:Oh thank god, I misread that as molesting! Not modesty!

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The Shadow Broker wrote...

try to explain a worm about= quantum physics, string or relativity theories, neurology or even the rules of football


The Shadow Broker on BSN.

Seems Legit.

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Ghost1017 wrote...

The Shadow Broker wrote...

try to explain a worm about= quantum physics, string or relativity theories, neurology or even the rules of football


The Shadow Broker on BSN.

Seems Legit.


:blink:

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That means that the Catalyst and the Reapers are Emos? Nobody understands them...how sad.

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k0xfilter wrote...

That means that the Catalyst and the Reapers are Emos? Nobody understands them...how sad.

Lol they're the Goth kids from South Park

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k0xfilter wrote...

That means that the Catalyst and the Reapers are Emos? Nobody understands them...how sad.


They are more likely goths because of how angry and nihilistic they come across as.

"YOUR WORDS ARE AS EMPTY AS YOUR FUTURE"

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Hrothdane wrote...

k0xfilter wrote...

That means that the Catalyst and the Reapers are Emos? Nobody understands them...how sad.


They are more likely goths because of how angry and nihilistic they come across as.

"YOUR WORDS ARE AS EMPTY AS YOUR FUTURE"
*Takes drag on Cigarette*
"Life is pain, life is only pain, were tought to believe in fairy tales endings, but there's only blackness, dark depressing loneliness that eats at your soul..."

Fixed