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[NM_Che56]

Red + Blue = Green


So Paragade

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 It's both.

Extreme/unprecedented solution, but it lets everyone live - even the Reapers (only with Shepard's sacrifice).

As I've always been in the middle of both moralities, it appeals to me.

[aj2070]

Synthesis is an abomination. Control is paragon than synthesis in my opinion because at least then, you aren't violating the entire galaxy to prevent a possible outcome based on flawed logic.

For the record, I did pick it on my first playthrough based on the fewest casualties approach but have since grown to hate it for how it achives this.

Modifié par aj2070, 11 septembre 2012 - 04:30 .

[GreyLycanTrope]

Master Che wrote...

Red + Blue = Green


So Paragade

Red + Blue = Purple

Green = Yellow + Blue

[Jere85]

Chaotic evil mode. Renegade allways stood for doing your mission, no matter what it takes, not turn us all into cyborgs, we had a mission since day 1, destroy the reapers.

[N7 Lisbeth]

I chose Synthesis in my first playthrough and struggled with the ending because of it. At the time, I found it to be the best option, given the conditions. (Synthesis was self-sacrifice = paragon. Destroy was genocide = renegade. Control was indoctrination but had separatation for both alignments = neutral. Refuse was stupid = game over.)

Shortly after, I came to the conclusion most of the fans come to: all of the endings are stupid, utterly beyond redemption. The entire encounter with the Catalyst is highly suspect, and Synthesis is just a different variation of Indoctrination. (That green glow, ugh!) Even Destroy; I'm convinced it plays into the Reapers' hand by forcing the cycle to repeat by causing another synthetic-organic war down the road.

It's a no-win scenario and, like ROUSes, I don't believe they exist. So I patently skip the ending and read Marauder Shields instead. I refuse to muddy the game by exploring those endings ever again. (Well, I would if they were properly changed, but that'll never happen.)

That's right. Real Paragon players read Marauder Shields instead, because "art" and "integrity" actually refer to words we classically know and understand. (Unlike Bioware's defintiions.) It's nice to know that somebody out there understands us.

Addendum: I apologise for using Shields as a deflection, but it really is the only light in a dark place. I simply can't express my hatred for the endings and Bioware's willfully ignorant stance without adding something positive.

Modifié par N7 Lisbeth, 11 septembre 2012 - 07:08 .

[T-Raks]

It's bogus.

[Reorte]

Massive wide-reaching consequences to every living thing? Very definitely Renegade, screwing everyone around to achieve your goal. That doesn't mean the other choices aren't too (Control could be the most Paragon, depending upon Shepard, but it's too bloody risky for me).

[wizardryforever]

Well all three endings (refuse is glorified game-over, not an ending) can be interpreted in different ways along the Paragon/Renegade scale.  Destroy sacrifices an entire race as well as various individuals (like EDI) in order to win, which seems Renegade.  But it could also be Paragon because you are essentially "freeing" the galaxy from further meddling by the Reapers.

Control is definitely the most grey, since you can have any number of motivations for choosing it.  Essentially, you act as either the galaxy's protector or its dictator.  But it changes things the least otherwise.  So if you're all about the status quo, then Control is ideal.

Synthesis brings about a technological and philosophical Renaisance (screw the spelling), but it does so with vague implications of "force."  So really it's up to personal interpretations.

Personally, I feel like Synthesis is exceedingly Paragon.  You sacrifice yourself to better the galaxy for thousands of years to come.  I don't necessarily feel like I'm picking it to solve the problem that the Catalyst believes it will solve.  I'm picking it because of the long-term effects, which are difficult to even fathom how far things will advance in the wake of synthesis.  The fact that it ends the war with no casualties other than Shepard, with numerous visible and explained benefits applied equally across the galaxy makes it a clear winner in my eyes.

[Veloric Wu]

I'm mildly surprised that most of you here didn't bring up the link between EDI and the Synthesis.

In my opinion, it is EDI that has been hinting/indirectly explaining Synthesis throughout Mass Effect 3, whereas Control is by The Indoctrinated Man (sounds more correct that way~), Destroy by Anderson

[RadicalDisconnect]

It's not paragon nor is it renegade. None of the endings are. Synthesis just has a far heavier dose of space magic than the other endings.

[d-boy15]

there is no paragon/renegade ending, it's only which ending had sugarcoat than other.

in this case synthesis...

Modifié par d-boy15, 12 septembre 2012 - 07:37 .

[Kataphrut94]

There's not meant to be a clear cut paragon or ending, though I'd say the synthesis philosophy is most reminiscent of the paragon ideals, destroy is most reminiscent of the renegade ideals and control is neutral and can go either way. Refuse is for people who don't have working brains.

[Zan51]

Jere85 wrote...

Chaotic evil mode. Renegade allways stood for doing your mission, no matter what it takes, not turn us all into cyborgs, we had a mission since day 1, destroy the reapers.

^ This

[CommanderVyse]

Zan51 wrote...

Jere85 wrote...

Chaotic evil mode. Renegade allways stood for doing your mission, no matter what it takes, not turn us all into cyborgs, we had a mission since day 1, destroy the reapers.

^ This

Agree, paragon or renegade, Shepard was still the hero doing the right thing. Synthesis is just wrong.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Paragon. every race, Reapers included, benefit from it.

[Rommel49]

cerberus1701 wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Choose Refuse.

Why?

The people who push this, either:

Do so to thumb their nose at Bioware. (Which I  get. It's pointless, but I get it.)

Some have actually, though, convinced themselves that letting the galaxy die is "winning." 

Actually, as I've noted in the past, the refusal ending is so incredibly vague (and self-contradictory in its narration) that you can't definitively judge its result, win/loss-wise (there's no timeline of events like when Liara placed the beacon, no specific events are cited by the narrator, hell, she doesn't even identify the Reapers by name and Liara basically pegged the Crucible as being a lemon in the archive). The ending itself never actually shows that a defeat takes place.

Anywho, onto the topic, none of the options are strictly "Paragon". The mass-molestation, er... Synthesis option involves both admitting that all life is broken at its core and needs to be "fixed" (i.e. basically concede the Reapers were right, since they and Husks are "synthesized" creatures), and the green fart of synthesis does that "fixing" without any implied consent from the galaxy's denizens whatsoever. Ashley, Hackett, Anderson, etc. all made it pretty clear they wanted the Reapers dead. Javik in particular was explicit that he'd rather see the Reapers extinct rather than subjugated right up until the end, nevermind singing around the campfire with them.

The closest ending to "Paragon" is sadly enough, the destruction one, genocide or no; atleast in my view. It's the only one that has the explicit or atleast implied consent of the galaxy at large - even if it results in the deaths of friendlies (which was considered a possibility right off the bat by Hackett and Anderson). It's the only one in which the good Commander follows the instruction of his superiors/heeds the advice and stated wishes of his friends and crewmates, etc. they want the Reapers and the nightmare they represent dead and gone and it's the only option that remotely fits the narrative of the series. Starkid implies Destroy will result in death too ("even you are partially synthetic..."), so that's not really a factor without metagaming.

Modifié par Rommel49, 12 septembre 2012 - 09:28 .

[EpicBoot2daFace]

Synthesis is the government option.

[DirtyPhoenix]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

As I've always been in the middle of both moralities, it appeals to me.

Same with me. In the area between two extreme lies my zone of comfort. One of the reasons I like Synthesis. Paragades rock!

Modifié par pirate1802, 12 septembre 2012 - 11:15 .

[Necrotron]

Neither, it's nonsense.

[Saans Shadow]

All ending choices have their ups and downs and cannot be categorized into paragon or renegade. Some people see it as a problem, I see it as brilliant.

[Mordak55]

I refuse to consider "space fairies sprinkling fairy dust on everyone to make them green" as an option.

[DirtyPhoenix]

Mordak55 wrote...

I refuse to consider "space fairies sprinkling fairy dust on everyone to make them green" as an option.

[Code_R]

It's the ****** option.