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[Cutlass Jack]

eddieoctane wrote...

Arcian wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Was this even a question? Even the slightest logic would tell you that if EA forced an ending on Bioware it would be very vanilla, showy and aimed at the broadest possible audience.

Pushing the button to turn on the Catalyst would result in all the Reapers exploding in a manner so spectacular that Michael Bay would be jealous.

I would actually prefer that ending.

Same here. I was rather intoxicated through most of me ME3 playthrough. Large explosions would have made me quite happy.

I just wanted Shepard to pick Refuse, put on some dark sunglasses, and do the cool, slow walk away from the Starkid as he exploded.

Is that so wrong?

[Jawsomebob]

This is the coolest thing ever:

Modifié par Jawsomebob, 11 septembre 2012 - 06:36 .

[shepskisaac]

Tazzmission wrote...

um dude bioware was originally gona release me3 in holiday 2011 dont believe me go rewatch vga 2010

Yes and if it released in Holiodays 2011, the mess would've been even bigger. Just because EA "graciously" let the game delay to March 2012 doesn't mean anything. This was a much more complex project than ME2 was AND they were also working on extensive ME2 DLC. SO yeah, this game should've been delayed till at least Holidays 2012.

Tazzmission wrote...

you can blame ea all you want but the truth is it was casey and mac that made the final call on the endings without input from the rest of the team

how is ea any way responsible for that? if anything there only guilty of funding till they were finished

I've already said EA didn't write the ending, so what the point of you telling me this? Plus, I see you're going with "no input from anyone else" thing as if it's a fact

Modifié par IsaacShep, 11 septembre 2012 - 06:37 .

[Taboo]

Arcian wrote...

NO

How about now?

[D24O]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Arcian wrote...

NO

How about now?

-snip

Well taking her clothes off is a step in the right direction. 

[Tazzmission]

[quote]IsaacShep wrote...

[quote]Tazzmission wrote...

um dude bioware was originally gona release me3 in holiday 2011 dont believe me go rewatch vga 2010 [/quote]Yes and if it released in Holiodays 2011, the mess would've been even bigger. Just because EA "graciously" let the game delay to March 2012 doesn't mean anything. This was a much more complex project than ME2 was AND they were also working on extensive ME2 DLC. SO yeah, this game should've been delayed till at least Holidays 2012.

if they hadnt pushed it back can you imagine all the game breaking bugs? also keep in mind they had multiple story leaks wich even mass effect fans cryed about like little spoiled brats.


its one thing to make accurate claims but its nuts that you would believe ea is a giant consipracy out to  just buy up a game developer milk them and throw them out on there asses

i really hope you never run a gaming buisness 

[Jawsomebob]

D24O wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Arcian wrote...

NO

How about now?

-snip

Well taking her clothes off is a step in the right direction. 

I wish Miranda had better Romance scenes...

[Lawrence0294]

[shepskisaac]

Tazzmission wrote...

if they hadnt pushed it back can you imagine all the game breaking bugs? also keep in mind they had multiple story leaks wich even mass effect fans cryed about like little spoiled brats.


its one thing to make accurate claims but its nuts that you would believe ea is a giant consipracy out to  just buy up a game developer milk them and throw them out on there asses

i really hope you never run a gaming buisness

WTF is this nonsense. I've never said anything about giant conspiracy. Strict deadlines are just reality because yes, EA execs are mostly concerned about pleasing the shareholders rather than customers

Modifié par IsaacShep, 11 septembre 2012 - 06:45 .

[Kel Riever]

HE'S AN ARTIST!

http://bottomline.nb...lub-argues?lite

[Applepie_Svk]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Yes. EA did not write this. No sane executive would have let this out the door.

I've been saying this for MONTHS.

Despite that EA is not directly for blame here, they pushed lot of studios to deadlines ... ask for franchise like C&C and Westwood studio, once great game is now few meters under surface on cementery of game industry, just last 1 or 2 titles of this series was realy downgrade of quality.

[Tazzmission]

IsaacShep wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

if they hadnt pushed it back can you imagine all the game breaking bugs? also keep in mind they had multiple story leaks wich even mass effect fans cryed about like little spoiled brats.


its one thing to make accurate claims but its nuts that you would believe ea is a giant consipracy out to  just buy up a game developer milk them and throw them out on there asses

i really hope you never run a gaming buisness

WTF is this nonsense. I've never said anything about giant conspiracy. Strict deadlines are just reality because yes, EA execs are mostly concerned about pleasing the shareholders rather than customers

you do realize ea isnt the only company that has share holders right?

everytime a story like this is discussed people fail miserably on how every publisher has stocks, share holders ect. you make it sound like ea is the soul only one  when in fact its not. thats how i know you are blinded by pure hated for the ea company

[D3SM0ND0]

Bad writing can be put at the feet of BW theres no denying that but EA must accept some blame. The development time was not long enough. Also the direction the game has gone, being a another generic shooter, lessening what made the franchise special. The same sort of thing is being done to Dead Space

[Seboist]

Endings were just an inept attempt at wiping the slate clean for future installments. It's no different than Lazarus and Arrival in concept.

[Conniving_Eagle]

So what kind of "Art" degree does Casey have? And what kind of "Art" does EA publish?

I don't blame EA for the endings, why they're going to support (atleast publicly) controversial bullcrap that will become a hinderance to them is beyond me.

[eddieoctane]

Tazzmission wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Yes. EA did not write this.

True. But it was EA who forced the deadline which influenced the overall game heavily

um dude bioware was originally gona release me3 in holiday 2011 dont believe me go rewatch vga 2010 

it was pushed back to 2012. you can blame ea all you want but the truth is it was casey and mac that made the final call on the endings without input from the rest of the team

how is ea any way responsible for that? if anything there only guilty of funding till they were finished

How many times are Blizzard games pushed back? People are nearly always glad they waited for the release rather than having it pushed up. Delaying ME3 by another 2-3 months could very well have resulted in a game that was better recieved by the players. EA needed the game released by March in order to include its sales figures in the annual shareholder report. EA needed the boost to its bottom line that it knew we would provide has ardent supporters of the franchise. Unfortunately, the quality of product delivered was lacking. It is not unfair to say that the production schedule contributed to this.

And as far as MP goes: EA wanted that content. EA was prepared to spend $X on ME3. If the same $X was spent on only SP content, we would have had a longer and probably less buggy experience, at least. It's still a valid point. It also proves that EA does regularly force the hands of developers to include features that they want. Which means the whole interview is an outright lie.

[shepskisaac]

Tazzmission wrote...

you do realize ea isnt the only company that has share holders right?

Of course. And other companies with shareholers are capable of balancing the satisfaction of shareholders and customers much better. Square Enix wasn't afraid to delay DXHR into next fiscal year to improve the quality as much as possible.

[jstme]

We will never know the truth. Who pushed for what ,what where the plans and deadlines ,what marketing department demanded et ctr.
I suggest to take it with few tons of grains of salt. EA has a lot to gain by pinning all the fault on developer.

[AresKeith]

vivaladricas wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...
you do realize ea isnt the only company that has share holders right?

everytime a story like this is discussed people fail miserably on how every publisher has stocks, share holders ect. you make it sound like ea is the soul only one  when in fact its not. thats how i know you are blinded by pure hated for the ea company

Agreed.  And I am sorry but 2 years is a long time, and with the toys they have to create with that is straight laziness to not get the job done.  They can render extremely fast with their render farms and should have the artists in place to do so.  I am guessing a lot of vacationing and short work days were in order for the past 2 years.  

Again Epic and Naughty Dog and others have 0 problems with that time frame.  Never once heard them complain about time constraints.  

thats because they aren't EA's RPG, MMO division which sometime does need more than two years, like ME3

[sharkboy421]

Arcian wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Was this even a question? Even the slightest logic would tell you that if EA forced an ending on Bioware it would be very vanilla, showy and aimed at the broadest possible audience.

Pushing the button to turn on the Catalyst would result in all the Reapers exploding in a manner so spectacular that Michael Bay would be jealous.

I would actually prefer that ending.

Honestly I was kinda expecting that ending.  And dammit I still want it.

[Tazzmission]

vivaladricas wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...
you do realize ea isnt the only company that has share holders right?

everytime a story like this is discussed people fail miserably on how every publisher has stocks, share holders ect. you make it sound like ea is the soul only one  when in fact its not. thats how i know you are blinded by pure hated for the ea company

Agreed.  And I am sorry but 2 years is a long time, and with the toys they have to create with that is straight laziness to not get the job done.  They can render extremely fast with their render farms and should have the artists in place to do so.  I am guessing a lot of vacationing and short work days were in order for the past 2 years.  

Again Epic and Naughty Dog and others have 0 problems with that time frame.  Never once heard them complain about time constraints.  

look at thq as an example. they do the wwe wrestling games i buy every year and the truth is its never gona be perfect. i know they have a deadline and things are hard to update currently like a wrestlers new attire or look

the new one comes out october 30th and wrestling fans are like omg hhh and cm punk cut there hair so the game is outdated...........

im like seriously? people thq isnt gona know when these guys get a frickin haircut

there start date is by wrestlemania wich is march/april and the cut off is summerslam in august

they have from that till than to have everything ready every year

Modifié par Tazzmission, 11 septembre 2012 - 06:57 .

[Cutlass Jack]

vivaladricas wrote...

Again Epic and Naughty Dog and others have 0 problems with that time frame.  Never once heard them complain about time constraints.  

I wasn't aware either company had a game that involved multiple game imports full of player choices that needed to be accounted for. Which was precicely the areas ME3 needed more time for.