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[Kalms]

So. Casey Hudson.

Real, or imaginary fall guy for EA? He hasn't posted, or said anything beyond a generic statement since ME3 went gold, right? He's probably a hologram. Poorly conceived AI. Whatevs.

[Reptilian Rob]

AbnormalJoe wrote...

...EA. Electronic Arts.

...this coming from the people who said that DS3 had to 5 million dollars in order to repay the cost.
...this is coming from the people who put subscription fees into tetris.
...this is coming from the people who made 60 dollar rides in F2P games.
...this is coming from the people who make their money off of ROSTER CHANGES to both American and European football.
...this is coming from people who demand Multiplayer in everything, often being ok at best (ME3) or real, grade A crap at worst (DS2).
...this is coming from people who said they'll change their MO every time a devteam died on their watch.
...this is coming from people who are the biggest users of everything that is wrong with gaming.
...this is coming from people who want "broader appeal" in every game.

they can try to run over Bioware with the "it's their fault" bus, but look at the history of Bioware and look at the History of EA, and then tell me with a normal face that EA had NOTHING to do with ANYTHING Bioware did, including the ending.

The Tetris fees always make me giggle.

[shepskisaac]

vivaladricas wrote...

I think the suicide mission put them in a hole in all honesty.  How can the Dev know who survived and who did not.  Should have been used in ME3 IMO. 

It made things much more difficult, but it was not the end of the world. Look how well Legion, Tali, Wrex & Mordin are implemented into the storyline. Jack, Samara, Grunt & Jacob's missions are great as well. With more time, they could've give all ME2 squadmates enough content.

vivaladricas wrote...

But yeah sure some of them get rushed, I think 2 years is a lot of time though personally.  I dont do game development though, and wasnt there so I am making guesses.  Point still goes to that ending was going to be there, so for me it was screwed either way. 

You don't need to be a game developer to realize how much more complex (due to accumulated choices and variables) of a project ME3 was, compared to ME2 which had the same dev time, yet people already back then complained about ME1 squadmates not having enough presence and some of the choices (like the Council) being jumped over.

[shepskisaac]

EntropicAngel wrote...

And I have to lol at the people acting like two years is this horrible horrible development cycle, when it's actually the industry average.

For 6 hour shoorters or games like Uncharted.

[Conniving_Eagle]

EA seem to think that blaming Bioware will make people like them more.

Not when you say that you support those endings.

[Rip504]

Yawns. Why do people feel the need to defend BW or EA?

[sheppard7]

EA may have set a deadline for release but Bioware decided to feel butthurt and nerdrage because the script was leaked so they went back in the 11th hour to change the ending to that mess.

Not EA's fault Bioware had that nerdrage.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Kalms wrote...

So. Casey Hudson.

Real, or imaginary fall guy for EA? He hasn't posted, or said anything beyond a generic statement since ME3 went gold, right? He's probably a hologram. Poorly conceived AI. Whatevs.

I admit, this has me quite intrigued myself. Casey used to be pretty active on Twitter prior to ME3's release, but not since the game came out. If I remember correctly, his last tweet dates back to mid-March and was some generic PR speak.

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 11 septembre 2012 - 07:42 .

[Obeded the 2nd]

I hate EA

[Apollo Starflare]

Do people at EA really look at ME3 in a negative light at all? Even taking the rustled jimmies regarding the ending into account it's been a huge success. Eh, I prefer to see them still talking up how BioWare controls what it wants to develop and how they have creative freedom, rather than the alternative anyway.

[JeffZero]

Rip504 wrote...

Yawns. Why do people feel the need to defend BW or EA?

Sneezes seven times in rapid succession. Because some of us liked ME3.

Bear in mind, I'd never defend EA.

Modifié par JeffZero, 11 septembre 2012 - 07:41 .

[Atakuma]

If anyone actually thought that EA had anything to do with the endings, then they should get their head examined.

[Lordambitious]

 Just gonna repost this EPIC FLOWCHART OF WHAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED


Seriously, I would still be playing it over and over again if this is the way things went. 

But instead we got space magic. 

[Ridwan]

Anyone with a sense of business would know that the ending was a bad idea. A suit doesn't give a hoot about "moral" choices and colours, all they want is a happy ending cause that means the players are happy and can be milked dry.

[Yate]

THE DEADLINE WAS NOT THE REASON THE ENDING SUCKED.

There seems to be confusion here.

BioWare didn't have enough time to make ME3 as good as they wanted. OK. What would you do in that situation? Start work at the beginning of the game making it perfect and then hope to have enough time for the end? No. That's not how games, or anything are made. You start with the basic structure, and then you fill in more and more stuff, fine-tuning on the way. You don't polish one section, then start building the next. If you have a strong opening and a strong ending, nothing else matters. BioWare should know this.

BioWare has worked with deadlines before, they should know how to manage time. I'm not saying what EA did was right, but the ending was definitely not their fault, or the deadline's fault. If they ran out of time on the ending, it's their own fault because the rest of the game is polished. Either they should've used some of that polishing time on the ending, or that was their idea of a polished ending.

[shepskisaac]

EntropicAngel wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

For 6 hour shoorters or games like Uncharted.

Or, not. For most games.

Or yes. RPGs take longer. Witcher 2, Skyrim, ME1, DAO, DXHR. And with all the choices & variables accumulated, ME3 was a technically complex poject that demanded a lot of content thus more time. So no, 2 years wasn't enough. Not to mention that the team was still busy with extensive ME2 DLC up until September 2010

[Atakuma]

EntropicAngel wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

For 6 hour shoorters or games like Uncharted.

Or, not. For most games.

Do you have anything to back up this claim?

[Cutlass Jack]

Jawsomebob wrote...

It is like EA intentionally blamed Bioware but made it look like they were complimenting them at first glance at the same time. It's very subtle but you can tell by the wording. EA intetionally did this to distance themselves from this ending. But they didn't want to look like they were doing that. 

Yes its all so much clearer now! Saying something positive about their developers is all a ruse! They were intentionally distancing themselves from Bioware by stating they'd back whatever they wanted to work on.

[clarkusdarkus]

No coincidence that since EA bought bioware there games have dropped in quality, ME2 was the beggining of the downfall if u ask me, but was far better and more enjoyable than ME3, DA2/TOR are also mediocre titles.

EA are only good for there gameface app.

Gotta love the balls of them to offer 1billion for valve though, they arent the worst company in america for nothing.

Modifié par clarkusdarkus, 11 septembre 2012 - 07:58 .