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[tiberius_adamantine]

So I'm playing origins again and am trying things a little differently this time around. My character is an atheist, as always, and believes that Andraste was a mage who came into contact with a spirit, "the Maker", if you will and that the story of the blight is different from what the chantry teaches. So i'm wondering, in the search for the urn, is it possible to get a pinch of the sacred ashes for Eamon but then keep it a secret so the place does not become a mecca to support an oppressive religion? I don't want to support the dragon cult, help them spread, but I also want to prevent the above from happening. Anyone know a way to make it happen?

[BevH]

One thing you can do is not kill the dragon. She will make it impossible for anyone to reach the ashes.

[Klidi]

I think you can prevent it by killing Genitivi. At least, it's one of the options when he starts blabbering about spreading the news. But I'm not sure, as I never did that.

[BevH]

Klidi wrote...

I think you can prevent it by killing Genitivi. At least, it's one of the options when he starts blabbering about spreading the news. But I'm not sure, as I never did that.

I thought about mentioning that as well. But, like you, I've never done that.

[tklivory]

Basically, you can:

1) Not kill the dragon (it protects the Ashes)
2) Kill Genitivi with murder knife ™
3) Don't take Genitivi with you after rescuing him (it's a dialogue choice, you basically send him home to Denerim when you first meet him) and then don't see him in Denerim or lie to him and tell him the Ashes weren't there when you do visit him in Denerim

All 3 ways mean you can kill the cult without compunction.

[tiberius_adamantine]

I think i have killed him before but it still made the site become a mecca.

[tklivory]

Hmmm, I've killed him and the dragon and it didn't become a pilgrimage location. Odd... Usually, though, i prefer to send him home early. Much as I love his signature line... I'll see if I still have that character. Maybe I'm forgetting something else about the playthrough.

[tiberius_adamantine]

maybe it was fixed in a patch? the wikia says that is what should happen, and it was a while back that i last played through it. If I remember correctly, i read something that said it would still be a mecca, and when i killed him for roleplaying reasons at the end it still said something about rumors leading to its discovery, but i don't have the save file anymore and i don't remember where i read it.

[tklivory]

Or one of my *cough* many mods changed it. I could be mixing it up with a playthrough where I destroyed the ashes and still killed kolgrim (aka one of my 'that bastard' characters). Totally possible.

[BevH]

It could also be the Leliana factor that makes it still be a mecca. All I know is that when I don't kill the dragon, she makes it impossible for people to get there. In the end, the dragon gets so perturbed that she razes the building and when people go to look for the urn, it's not there. At least according to the codex.

[coldwetn0se]

BevH posts are exactly what I got on my last play through. I killed the cult, did NOT kill Genetivi, and did NOT kill the dragon. The dragon kept all at bay until it did just as BevH said. No mecca for the ashes.