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[Ender Ghost]

Biotic_Warlock wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

OniTYME wrote...

A man is either gay or straight. Bi is for the confused who haven't quite grown up.

You're trolling



... are you?

Unfortunatly a lot of non trolls are naive to believe this.
Those who say bi doesn't exist are as bad as homophobes, if not worse.

Actually something that I thought interesting, gays justify being gay with creatures in nature, but said creatures never select those of their own sex exclusively, they 'mate' with both genders, so wouldn't in theory there be no gays and instead only bisexuals? (tl;dr gays might not be really gay and just bisexuals making a scene.)

*Puts on flame suit*

[XXIceColdXX]

Shep always gives, Kaiden always takes. Perfect harmony.

[Ender Ghost]

Flog61 wrote...

Ender Ghost wrote...

Biotic_Warlock wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

OniTYME wrote...

A man is either gay or straight. Bi is for the confused who haven't quite grown up.

You're trolling



... are you?

Unfortunatly a lot of non trolls are naive to believe this.
Those who say bi doesn't exist are as bad as homophobes, if not worse.

Actually something that I thought interesting, gays justify being gay with creatures in nature, but said creatures never select those of their own sex exclusively, they 'mate' with both genders, so wouldn't in theory there be no gays and instead only bisexuals? (tl;dr gays might not be really gay and just bisexuals making a scene.)

*Puts on flame suit*

Detecting high levels of troll in this system

No trolling or homophobia, but think about it, doesn't that make more sense then these people who may or may not be gay? That or the other dozens of theories of other causes of homosexuality (Which isn't too flatering to gays, like being victims of child abuse or something).

[shepskisaac]

Ender Ghost wrote...

Actually something that I thought interesting, gays justify being gay with creatures in nature, but said creatures never select those of their own sex exclusively, they 'mate' with both genders

No, for example, around 8% of male rams are exclusively homosexual

Ender Ghost wrote...

so wouldn't in theory there be no gays and instead only bisexuals? (tl;dr gays might not be really gay and just bisexuals making a scene.)

*Puts on flame suit*

At least when it comes to guys, it's very simple. There's a certain part of male body that tell us exactly and visibly what the guy likes and surprise surprise, there are guys who are just not attracted to women. How hard it is to get?

Modifié par IsaacShep, 13 septembre 2012 - 11:31 .

[IllusiveManJr]

IsaacShep wrote...

Ender Ghost wrote...

so wouldn't in theory there be no gays and instead only bisexuals? (tl;dr gays might not be really gay and just bisexuals making a scene.)

*Puts on flame suit*

At least when it comes to guys, it's very simple. There's a certain part of male body that tell us exactly and visibly what the guy likes and surprise surprise, there are guys who are just not attracted to women. How hard it is to get?

Depends.

[shepskisaac]

theillusiveman11 wrote...

Depends.

If a guy needs help of blue pill or is watched by an audience of 10 people, sure, it may depend. But when a guy gets on his computer alone and fires up pr0n, there's really no questions what will get him going - it will be what he likes.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 13 septembre 2012 - 11:37 .

[Ender Ghost]

IsaacShep wrote...

theillusiveman11 wrote...

Depends.

If a guy needs help of blue pill or is watched by an audience of 10 people, sure, it may depend. But when a guy gets on his computer alone and fires up pr0n, there's really no questions what will get him going - it will be what he likes.

Yeah but think of the hundreds of people that claim to be gay but just do it to make a scene? I mean sure its nice to fight for people's rights, but its down right childish for people to either act knowingly or unknowingly homosexual just to make others disapprove, its like scene girls- except being gay is whats 'popular' now.

Still, I think science needs to find a concrete (no joke intended) reason for homosexuality, be it a chemical imbalance in the brain (Which can be fixed if they want it to be), child abuse, or something that occurs naturally.

[MACharlie1]

Ender Ghost wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

theillusiveman11 wrote...

Depends.

If a guy needs help of blue pill or is watched by an audience of 10 people, sure, it may depend. But when a guy gets on his computer alone and fires up pr0n, there's really no questions what will get him going - it will be what he likes.

Yeah but think of the hundreds of people that claim to be gay but just do it to make a scene? I mean sure its nice to fight for people's rights, but its down right childish for people to either act knowingly or unknowingly homosexual just to make others disapprove, its like scene girls- except being gay is whats 'popular' now.

Still, I think science needs to find a concrete (no joke intended) reason for homosexuality, be it a chemical imbalance in the brain (Which can be fixed if they want it to be), child abuse, or something that occurs naturally.

I can tell you right now, it's not a chemical imbalance (at least not in the sense of one such as depression or any other treatable ailment - which would make it a natual occurence) or child abuse. 99% of scientists agree - which is why any of the psychiatric organizations with any prestige says that it's wrong to convert any homosexual into a heterosexual. 

[shepskisaac]

Ender Ghost wrote...

Yeah but think of the hundreds of people that claim to be gay but just do it to make a scene? I mean sure its nice to fight for people's rights, but its down right childish for people to either act knowingly or unknowingly homosexual just to make others disapprove, its like scene girls- except being gay is whats 'popular' now.

Sorry but this is just silly. 100 years ago, homosexuality was punishable in most countries in the world, in many even by death. It is STILL, to this day punishable by death in some countries. Who, in the right mind would just 'make a scene' in such countries? And even in countries where it ain't punishable, but homophobia still prevails to smaller or lesser degree, who would just 'pretend' to be fully gay just to be popular or irritate someone while risking being beaten up, ridiculed or insulted in the more homophobic countries. This is ridiculous.

Ender Ghost wrote...
Still, I think science needs to find a concrete (no joke intended) reason for homosexuality, be it a chemical imbalance in the brain (Which can be fixed if they want it to be), child abuse, or something that occurs naturally.

The way you sneak in 'fixing' and 'child abuse' theories make me not believe you're not trolling. But I can already tell you one thing (in case you actually are curious about it) - it has nothing to do with child abuse. I was never abused by anyone and I'm gay. I don't need scientists to prove it because I'm myself a proof that this theory is false, as are millions of other gay people.

[Ender Ghost]

MACharlie1 wrote...

Ender Ghost wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

theillusiveman11 wrote...

Depends.

If a guy needs help of blue pill or is watched by an audience of 10 people, sure, it may depend. But when a guy gets on his computer alone and fires up pr0n, there's really no questions what will get him going - it will be what he likes.

Yeah but think of the hundreds of people that claim to be gay but just do it to make a scene? I mean sure its nice to fight for people's rights, but its down right childish for people to either act knowingly or unknowingly homosexual just to make others disapprove, its like scene girls- except being gay is whats 'popular' now.

Still, I think science needs to find a concrete (no joke intended) reason for homosexuality, be it a chemical imbalance in the brain (Which can be fixed if they want it to be), child abuse, or something that occurs naturally.

I can tell you right now, it's not a chemical imbalance (at least not in the sense of one such as depression or any other treatable ailment - which would make it a natual occurence) or child abuse. 99% of scientists agree - which is why any of the psychiatric organizations with any prestige says that it's wrong to convert any homosexual into a heterosexual. 

Thats an issue of ethics, but if they want to be heterosexual then I think we should let them, otherwise we'd be discriminating against them.

[MACharlie1]

Ender Ghost wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

Ender Ghost wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

theillusiveman11 wrote...

Depends.

If a guy needs help of blue pill or is watched by an audience of 10 people, sure, it may depend. But when a guy gets on his computer alone and fires up pr0n, there's really no questions what will get him going - it will be what he likes.

Yeah but think of the hundreds of people that claim to be gay but just do it to make a scene? I mean sure its nice to fight for people's rights, but its down right childish for people to either act knowingly or unknowingly homosexual just to make others disapprove, its like scene girls- except being gay is whats 'popular' now.

Still, I think science needs to find a concrete (no joke intended) reason for homosexuality, be it a chemical imbalance in the brain (Which can be fixed if they want it to be), child abuse, or something that occurs naturally.

I can tell you right now, it's not a chemical imbalance (at least not in the sense of one such as depression or any other treatable ailment - which would make it a natual occurence) or child abuse. 99% of scientists agree - which is why any of the psychiatric organizations with any prestige says that it's wrong to convert any homosexual into a heterosexual. 

Thats an issue of ethics, but if they want to be heterosexual then I think we should let them, otherwise we'd be discriminating against them.

I didn't say that - if a homosexual wants to be stragiht - let him be. If a heterosexual wants to be gay - thats their business. But I'm just talking run of the mill - you go where your dick is pointed. 

[Taboo]

I was abused as a child. Physically and emotionally. I suffer from clinical depression and OCD. The latter are caused by chemical imbalances in the brain. By all accounts I should be gay by your standards Ender Ghost.

I'm not. My favorite character is Miranda and I'm one of her biggest advocates here. Ask anyone on this forum who Miranda's biggest fan is.

I'm also a big advocate for LGBT rights both here on the BSN and in the real world. Please educate yourself in these manners because you're coming off as incredibly ignorant.

[Ender Ghost]

MACharlie1 wrote...

Ender Ghost wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

Ender Ghost wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

theillusiveman11 wrote...

Depends.

If a guy needs help of blue pill or is watched by an audience of 10 people, sure, it may depend. But when a guy gets on his computer alone and fires up pr0n, there's really no questions what will get him going - it will be what he likes.

Yeah but think of the hundreds of people that claim to be gay but just do it to make a scene? I mean sure its nice to fight for people's rights, but its down right childish for people to either act knowingly or unknowingly homosexual just to make others disapprove, its like scene girls- except being gay is whats 'popular' now.

Still, I think science needs to find a concrete (no joke intended) reason for homosexuality, be it a chemical imbalance in the brain (Which can be fixed if they want it to be), child abuse, or something that occurs naturally.

I can tell you right now, it's not a chemical imbalance (at least not in the sense of one such as depression or any other treatable ailment - which would make it a natual occurence) or child abuse. 99% of scientists agree - which is why any of the psychiatric organizations with any prestige says that it's wrong to convert any homosexual into a heterosexual. 

Thats an issue of ethics, but if they want to be heterosexual then I think we should let them, otherwise we'd be discriminating against them.

I didn't say that - if a homosexual wants to be stragiht - let him be. If a heterosexual wants to be gay - thats their business. But I'm just talking run of the mill - you go where your dick is pointed. 

But what does it mean when you're walking backwards?

(On topic, while I don't particularly care what sexuallity Kaidon has, its pretty annoying with all the sudden changes in ME3 that had no mention in previous games that end up being pivital to the plot, like the crucible, Kaidon being gay, etc.)

[MACharlie1]

Taboo-XX wrote...

I was abused as a child. Physically and emotionally. I suffer from clinical depression and OCD. The latter are caused by chemical imbalances in the brain. By all accounts I should be gay by your standards Ender Ghost.

I'm not. My favorite character is Miranda and I'm one of her biggest advocates here. Ask anyone on this forum who Miranda's biggest fan is.

I'm also a big advocate for LGBT rights both here on the BSN and in the real world. Please educate yourself in these manners because you're coming off as incredibly ignorant.

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101? 

[Taboo]

MACharlie1 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

I was abused as a child. Physically and emotionally. I suffer from clinical depression and OCD. The latter are caused by chemical imbalances in the brain. By all accounts I should be gay by your standards Ender Ghost.

I'm not. My favorite character is Miranda and I'm one of her biggest advocates here. Ask anyone on this forum who Miranda's biggest fan is.

I'm also a big advocate for LGBT rights both here on the BSN and in the real world. Please educate yourself in these manners because you're coming off as incredibly ignorant.

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101? 

I said fan.

Not...whatever that is.

[MACharlie1]

Ender Ghost wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

Ender Ghost wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

Ender Ghost wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

theillusiveman11 wrote...

Depends.

If a guy needs help of blue pill or is watched by an audience of 10 people, sure, it may depend. But when a guy gets on his computer alone and fires up pr0n, there's really no questions what will get him going - it will be what he likes.

Yeah but think of the hundreds of people that claim to be gay but just do it to make a scene? I mean sure its nice to fight for people's rights, but its down right childish for people to either act knowingly or unknowingly homosexual just to make others disapprove, its like scene girls- except being gay is whats 'popular' now.

Still, I think science needs to find a concrete (no joke intended) reason for homosexuality, be it a chemical imbalance in the brain (Which can be fixed if they want it to be), child abuse, or something that occurs naturally.

I can tell you right now, it's not a chemical imbalance (at least not in the sense of one such as depression or any other treatable ailment - which would make it a natual occurence) or child abuse. 99% of scientists agree - which is why any of the psychiatric organizations with any prestige says that it's wrong to convert any homosexual into a heterosexual. 

Thats an issue of ethics, but if they want to be heterosexual then I think we should let them, otherwise we'd be discriminating against them.

I didn't say that - if a homosexual wants to be stragiht - let him be. If a heterosexual wants to be gay - thats their business. But I'm just talking run of the mill - you go where your dick is pointed. 

But what does it mean when you're walking backwards?

(On topic, while I don't particularly care what sexuallity Kaidon has, its pretty annoying with all the sudden changes in ME3 that had no mention in previous games that end up being pivital to the plot, like the crucible, Kaidon being gay, etc.)

Explain how it is walking backwards for me please. 

And first, no sudden change. No reason to believe anyone was exclusively straight or otherwise in ME1. Nobody wears it on their sleeve. And then...how exactly is it pivitol to the plot? Romances are optional and there are a BUNCH in the entire series. 

[spirosz]

And here we go.

[Ender Ghost]

Taboo-XX wrote...

I was abused as a child. Physically and emotionally. I suffer from clinical depression and OCD. The latter are caused by chemical imbalances in the brain. By all accounts I should be gay by your standards Ender Ghost.

I'm not. My favorite character is Miranda and I'm one of her biggest advocates here. Ask anyone on this forum who Miranda's biggest fan is.

I'm also a big advocate for LGBT rights both here on the BSN and in the real world. Please educate yourself in these manners because you're coming off as incredibly ignorant.

-,- not sure if trolling or just not very good at reasoning....

Not everyone that went to Iraq got PTSD, not everyone who got cancer dies, see the theme here? You could be abused as a child and not be gay, we see this alot, you can have chemical imbalances and not be gay (Seriously thats pretty obvious, do I really need to explain about how there are different kinds of chemicals? Shocking I know), and really I couldn't care less if you were gay, I'm just pointing out that a lot of scientific studies point that homosexuality is 'natural' but not 'normal' or whatever you want to call it.

[spirosz]

Ender, you do realize that people can grow up having perfectly great lives and be gay, bi, whatever, it's their choice, sure - certain factors can influence their decision on sexuality, but who cares, sexuality shouldn't define a person, IMO. Straight Kaidan is no different from Bi Kaidan.

[MACharlie1]

Ender Ghost wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

I was abused as a child. Physically and emotionally. I suffer from clinical depression and OCD. The latter are caused by chemical imbalances in the brain. By all accounts I should be gay by your standards Ender Ghost.

I'm not. My favorite character is Miranda and I'm one of her biggest advocates here. Ask anyone on this forum who Miranda's biggest fan is.

I'm also a big advocate for LGBT rights both here on the BSN and in the real world. Please educate yourself in these manners because you're coming off as incredibly ignorant.

-,- not sure if trolling or just not very good at reasoning....

Not everyone that went to Iraq got PTSD, not everyone who got cancer dies, see the theme here? You could be abused as a child and not be gay, we see this alot, you can have chemical imbalances and not be gay (Seriously thats pretty obvious, do I really need to explain about how there are different kinds of chemicals? Shocking I know), and really I couldn't care less if you were gay, I'm just pointing out that a lot of scientific studies point that homosexuality is 'natural' but not 'normal' or whatever you want to call it.

But is everyone who is gay have an "unnatural" chemical imbalance? Or been abused by a child? 

If we're talking biological normalcy then every single time you have sex without the intention of procreating or a girl sucks your dick or you put it somewhere where it can't create a baby - then it's not "normal". 

[Taboo]

Ender Ghost wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

I was abused as a child. Physically and emotionally. I suffer from clinical depression and OCD. The latter are caused by chemical imbalances in the brain. By all accounts I should be gay by your standards Ender Ghost.

I'm not. My favorite character is Miranda and I'm one of her biggest advocates here. Ask anyone on this forum who Miranda's biggest fan is.

I'm also a big advocate for LGBT rights both here on the BSN and in the real world. Please educate yourself in these manners because you're coming off as incredibly ignorant.

-,- not sure if trolling or just not very good at reasoning....

Not everyone that went to Iraq got PTSD, not everyone who got cancer dies, see the theme here? You could be abused as a child and not be gay, we see this alot, you can have chemical imbalances and not be gay (Seriously thats pretty obvious, do I really need to explain about how there are different kinds of chemicals? Shocking I know), and really I couldn't care less if you were gay, I'm just pointing out that a lot of scientific studies point that homosexuality is 'natural' but not 'normal' or whatever you want to call it.

I merely pointing out how absurd your assessment is. Homosexuality occurs in nature. Look it up. So does Bisexuality.

You're born that way. There are gay bats. There are gay penguins. They are gay chimps. There are gay seals.

And guess what? Sometimes there are gay people.

No one wakes up in the morning and says "I think I'll be gay because I want to be put into a minority and suffer for it." They've always been that way.

I didn't decide to be heterosexual. I was born that way. I love women. I never woke and made a choice to like them. I just did and always have.

It works the same way with Homosexuals as well. Same as Bisexuality. There is no choice.

You simply are.

[Made Nightwing]

Because a yaoi fangirl started writing him, why else? Despite what IsaacShep likes to delude himself about, Kaidan was never meant to be available for both sides in ME1. Everyone was just reading off the exact same scripts. The reason the files were in the game code was because it would never have been worth removing them. However, the way the game was cut paints Kaidan as red-blooded woman chaser. Case in point, Kaidan acts nervous and stuttery around FemShep, but never around BroShep, and never shows the slightest bit of romantic interest in him, at all. He also flirts with Ash and with Liara. And, despite the numerous occasions of chiselled jaws and masculine features in the game, the only time he sneaks in a dirty comment is around female asari dancers. I don't know how many more hints you need before you understand that someone is so far off one end of the Kinsey scale as to be uncatchable, but I'd like to think that there's enough.

Unfortunately, just like cool, cat-loving, woman chasing Anders, a different writer came along whose personal tastes in pr0n should not be mentioned in polite company. As a consequence, my noble warrior/Forever Alone Shepard now has to romance Liara to actually get BroKaidan and not CreepyKaidan. BroKaidan is awesome and feels like a genuine bro, CreepyKaidan feels like a stalker who's upset that he's been turned down. Again, it just leaves me scratching my head, especially since Ash wasn't flipped around, so it wasn't like they were embarking on a tolerance crusade. Anyway, I'm out of here.

[IllusiveManJr]

Disclosing your personal life on BSN is never a good idea.