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[UpirNoir]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

UpirNoir wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...
The support role is a lie. There is only damage output.

Really ? So my Paladin standing in front of a Cerberus Tower with his shield so the other guys can destroy it without being torn to pieces is a lie ? Or my Paladin standing tall and soaking all the shots of that damn Prime so the others can blast that thing into smithereens is a lie ?

In this game you would be better served, and would much better serve your team by not just standing there. A good Paladin will mix snap freezes, ED's and heavy melees (as well as shield plants) to help their team mates drop that damn Prime much faster. (100% armour debuff = Prime dies very quickly).

I know, I do it all the time.

So yes, your Paladin standing there doing nothing might look cool, but you could be helping so much more.

Yeah I get that, and I actually do that as well. In between the Prime's shooting cycles, I ED, Snapfreeze and slap it. I just wanted to point out, that you can't generalize by saying support is a lie.

Btw, debuff is exactly that, support :-p

[GGW KillerTiger]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Please be trolling.

10k in a platinum? Yeah you were carried. Contrary to popular opinion: score does matter.

The support role is a lie. There is only damage output.

Through damage output I gain kills
Through kills I gain points
Through points I gain credits
Through credits, my packs are bought.

The DPS shall free me.

Points =/= credits earned

Stupid dinosaur ....

[sanitarium616]

dumdum2 wrote...

With the AJ my main focus was to have the defensive bubble where my teammates needed it most, I do not have any points in Reave on that one but instead I focused on full Fitness and Pull. Thing is, when I tried to use my powers or shoot my weapon I died so fast, had to use all of my medigels and ops packs before wave 6, mostly with  the AJ I tried to stay close to my teammates to revive them and let them revive me (cause I only have 6 medigels).

Reave is the justicar's best power, by far. In fact, it's one of the best biotic powers in the game. Skipping it is a horrible mistake.

I'm sorry to say this, but you should not consider yourself a good player. You have quite a bit to learn about the game.

[LemurFromTheId]

Get real, people. Trolls don't get more obvious than this.

dumdum2 wrote...

Whenever I dropped my shield I was almost killed immediately, so my strategy for that match was to just help my team by drawing as much enemy aggro as possible. Didn't use powers or weapons but focused on helping my team with my Paladin's blocking abilities.

dumdum2 wrote...

With the AJ my main focus was to have the defensive bubble where my teammates needed it most, I do not have any points in Reave on that one but instead I focused on full Fitness and Pull. Thing is, when I tried to use my powers or shoot my weapon I died so fast, had to use all of my medigels and ops packs before wave 6, mostly with the AJ I tried to stay close to my teammates to revive them and let them revive me (cause I only have 6 medigels).

[Clayless]

Think we're getting trolled.

[TobiasFunke]

dumdum2 wrote...

aryon69 wrote...
With the AJ were you using reave on everything that moved as well as putting down the bubble for teammates? Stripping shields with the engineer as well as using the decoy? Doing those things will be a help to the team and while you won't top any scoreboard 50-70k points should be doable.

With the AJ my main focus was to have the defensive bubble where my teammates needed it most, I do not have any points in Reave on that one but instead I focused on full Fitness and Pull. Thing is, when I tried to use my powers or shoot my weapon I died so fast, had to use all of my medigels and ops packs before wave 6, mostly with  the AJ I tried to stay close to my teammates to revive them and let them revive me (cause I only have 6 medigels).

Exactly, it doesn matter how many points you score. It's all about how many times you revive. This is a co-op game guys. It's all about support. I don't even spec into any skills other than Fitness. That's right I go 00006 on all my characters cuz I'm a support player and medic. I'm helping the team, without my support they are screwed.

[dumdum2]

sanitarium616 wrote...
People who play the paladin and sit there with a their shields deployed for long stretches really grind my gears. You're not helping the team as much as you think you are. You want damage output, and a deployed shield outputs zero damage. 

It is just a matter of different play styles, one is not necessarily better than the other. And, in a co-op game score doesn't matter at all, it is how you contribute to the team that matters.

[L.ast L.ife]

TobiasFunke wrote...

CNevarezN wrote...

L.ast L.ife wrote...

TobiasFunke wrote...

How do people not realize this thread is really overt satire... I agree with every point btw, OP.

It's BSN.

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Common sense is replaced by fragile egos and superiority complexes on a daily basis here.

 You're a sad person. Coming onto a forum to make fun of other people? For what? A good laugh? Moron.

Not sure if playing along or... This thread is hilarious. Thanks OP keep it up.

As the late great Apollo Creed said before his oh so epic friendly rematch with Rocky Balboa (sponsored by Bromance, Inc.)...

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"Ding, ding."

[megawug]

Ah, it's the morning funnies. Good show, old chap! 8)

[Rifneno]

dumdum2 wrote...

aryon69 wrote...
With the AJ were you using reave on everything that moved as well as putting down the bubble for teammates? Stripping shields with the engineer as well as using the decoy? Doing those things will be a help to the team and while you won't top any scoreboard 50-70k points should be doable.

With the AJ my main focus was to have the defensive bubble where my teammates needed it most, I do not have any points in Reave on that one but instead I focused on full Fitness and Pull. Thing is, when I tried to use my powers or shoot my weapon I died so fast, had to use all of my medigels and ops packs before wave 6, mostly with  the AJ I tried to stay close to my teammates to revive them and let them revive me (cause I only have 6 medigels).

This is my favorite part.  Focused on a power that only works on unshielded, unarmored, unbarriered enemies, and then took it to plat.  Priceless.

[rka001]

Obvious troll is obvious.

[DylanBar]

10k on Platinum isn't getting carried it's leeching, you're lucky your teammates didn't report you after the kick.

[APEX KING19]

I dont care what score people get as long as we complete the game and get the creds. I hate the players that go running head first into the enemy on plat or gold and are taken out straight away forcing the whole team to risk being wiped out straight away trying to save them. All i ask is common sense.

[Subguy614]

Hi Robert!

Sorry to hear you got kicked after your first Platinum.

When will they learn it's not about score.????

[DeadeyeCYclops]

optimal build for scoring 10k on platinum lvl sentinel to 20 with one of the original humans, then deploy the N7 Paladin, lvl up fitness to 6, do not spend any other points. Then join a platinum game, do nothing but stand in a corner with your shield up = 10k points

[Zero132132]

So White/Geth matches actually DO fail sometimes? Throughout the thread, it seems like the OP is keeping up with the troll. I thought the OP was satire, but maybe not.

10k in Platinum is just terribad. I agree that score isn't everything, since it doesn't account for aggro drawn, kiting enemies away from objectives, getting revives, getting objectives, or softening up enemies with debuffs, but it DOES relate to killing stuff, and that's in no way mutually exclusive to killing stuff.

Unless you had the 15 revives medal, got about triple that in actual revives, and did every objective ever by yourself, you absolutely got carried.

Modifié par Zero132132, 12 septembre 2012 - 04:21 .

[dumdum2]

sanitarium616 wrote...

Reave is the justicar's best power, by far. In fact, it's one of the best biotic powers in the game. Skipping it is a horrible mistake.

I'm sorry to say this, but you should not consider yourself a good player. You have quite a bit to learn about the game.

Ehh, no it is not. On Silver for example I use the Acolyte on my Justicar, strip the enemies barriers or shields then use pull on them and shoot them again. On Platinum the time it took for me to charge up my Acolyte made me get killed all the time, so maybe that combination wasn't the best but I will definately try out reave or another weapon later on that difficulty. 

Thing is, I didn't use Reave cause I see it mainly as a power that is defensive for me only while my other powers can actually help my team.

[L.ast L.ife]

BjornDaDwarf wrote...

L.ast L.ife wrote...

It's BSN.

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Common sense is replaced by fragile egos and superiority complexes on a daily basis here.

Fragile superiority complexes?

Keep quiet, damnit.

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You're going to spoil the bait.

[Kenshen]

dumdum2 wrote...

aryon69 wrote...
With the AJ were you using reave on everything that moved as well as putting down the bubble for teammates? Stripping shields with the engineer as well as using the decoy? Doing those things will be a help to the team and while you won't top any scoreboard 50-70k points should be doable.

With the AJ my main focus was to have the defensive bubble where my teammates needed it most, I do not have any points in Reave on that one but instead I focused on full Fitness and Pull. Thing is, when I tried to use my powers or shoot my weapon I died so fast, had to use all of my medigels and ops packs before wave 6, mostly with  the AJ I tried to stay close to my teammates to revive them and let them revive me (cause I only have 6 medigels).

I have never heard of anyone doing this and honestly it makes zero sense.  Pull is rather useless to start and on gold and plat it wouldn't be used at all.  Reave is a AJ best friend and also a huge help for other biotics in the group.  If you die everytime trying to use it then the same should be the case with pull.  I am sorry but I am starting to agree with the people that kicked you if you are being truthful which I have my doubts.

[Rifneno]

You guys who think this is obvious troll have too much faith in humanity. Some people really are this... let's go with "dense." I mean it MAY be a troll, but not definitely.

[iTrollz0r]

Probably a trolling attempt, but I would say 10K is being carried.

Heck, 20K is carried.

[Boretsky]

honestly anything under 40k is being carried on gold or platinum, I have a friend who plays like you, not a bad player (he doesn't rush in and get killed or make bad choices that would lead to failing an objective), but he doesn't really contribute all that much beside alerting us to enemy placement.

I wondered how he got such a low score all the time (he averages 15k), so I tried a level 1 SE on a WGG match, tried to only fire my gun when needed and only use decoy and energy drain and I still broke 30k.

The thing is, outside of the three objectives, the only goal in the game is to kill enemies, not contributing to that in order to distract enemies is more of an hindrance to the team than an asset. I wouldn't kick you but I would probably leave the lobby.

[dumdum2]

APEX KING19 wrote...

I dont care what score people get as long as we complete the game and get the creds. I hate the players that go running head first into the enemy on plat or gold and are taken out straight away forcing the whole team to risk being wiped out straight away trying to save them. All i ask is common sense.

Ohh, well, we didn't actually complete wave 10 objective on the first match, should have said something about that in my opening post, sorry 

[DieselL]

cant be possible 10k means you nearly never shoot and use any powers !
using one rocket on platinum gives you at least a couple of 1000 points!
just respec your AJ and put max on reave and by just spamming it the whole game you will at least 3x your score !
the best help is to shoot as many targets or deal as much damage as possible , in some rare cases a shield might save some one the way you used it but you dont want to be a reviving stone the entire match?