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[Spicen]

Well no i do NOT support sex scenes in games maybe, romances that does not end up as sex. But still a video game is a video game and romances should have part in it. It is my opinion.

But so far most people it seems would prefer romances so i guess romance wins, as for ******-romances, i wonder is it legal that people are discussing about this so frequently.

Modifié par Spicen, 13 septembre 2012 - 08:53 .

[Maria Caliban]

I support sex scenes in games and contend that Dragon Age 2's sex scenes are not only better than those in any other BioWare game but better than the vast majority of games and many movies.

Spicen wrote...

... as for ******-romances, i wonder is it legal yet that people are discussing about this so frequently.

I find this comment difficult to understand. Could you rephrase?

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 13 septembre 2012 - 08:49 .

[Kidd]

Spicen wrote...

i wonder is it legal yet that people are discussing about this so frequently.

I wasn't aware the moderation team had a bias against such discussion. Don't see why they would either, hence I doubt they do.

[fchopin]

I like romances in games if done well, if they are like DA2 then i would rather they take them out.

In DAO the romances were probably about the best in any game even with the bugs.

[Spicen]

KiddDaBeauty wrote...

Spicen wrote...

i wonder is it legal yet that people are discussing about this so frequently.

I wasn't aware the moderation team had a bias against such discussion. Don't see why they would either, hence I doubt they do.

I heard that USA  were going to legalize the thing after next election. If thats true, it means its not legal yet, right?

[Plaintiff]

Spicen wrote...
as for ******-romances, i wonder is it legal that people are discussing about this so frequently.

You'd be surprised. In most developed countries, homosexuals can even hold hands and kiss in public without being executed.

[Plaintiff]

hangmans tree wrote...

Do you know how this sounds? Most of you buy BW games because of romances. And thats it. Next thing we know we will get a date simulator, a new brand and title from Bioware, new rpg formulae to revitalize and reinvent a dying genre.

What biased garbage. If I said I was against combat being removed from Bioware games, would you rant about how "It seems like you only buy Bioware games to kill things"?

[Spicen]

Plaintiff wrote...

hangmans tree wrote...

Do you know how this sounds? Most of you buy BW games because of romances. And thats it. Next thing we know we will get a date simulator, a new brand and title from Bioware, new rpg formulae to revitalize and reinvent a dying genre.

What biased garbage. If I said I was against combat being removed from Bioware games, would you rant about how "It seems like you only buy Bioware games to kill things"?

Well honestly some people DO buy BW games for romances.

[Kidd]

Spicen wrote...

I heard that USA  were going to legalize the thing after next election. If thats true, it means its not legal yet, right?

As for the USA, the only thing not legalised is marriage. The rest is fine.

More to the point however, Thedas isn't the USA and BioWare isn't an American company either.

Plaintiff wrote...

You'd be surprised. In most developed countries, homosexuals can even hold hands and kiss in public without being executed. 

I'd ask you to marry me if we weren't gay on the opposite ends of the spectrum =(
(at least I've always surmised you being male, otherwise your hand is being requested in jest! )

[Spicen]

Plaintiff wrote...

Spicen wrote...
as for ******-romances, i wonder is it legal that people are discussing about this so frequently.

You'd be surprised. In most developed countries, homosexuals can even hold hands and kiss in public without being executed.

Strange, isn't it?

[Spicen]

KiddDaBeauty wrote...

Spicen wrote...

I heard that USA  were going to legalize the thing after next election. If thats true, it means its not legal yet, right?

As for the USA, the only thing not legalised is marriage. The rest is fine.

More to the point however, Thedas isn't the USA and BioWare isn't an American company either.

 






Well thedas is a middle age country right? I swear i heard somewhere that the church forbade such things.

Funny thing is that Hawke and his mate seems to be the only homos in the entire Thedas

Modifié par Spicen, 13 septembre 2012 - 09:14 .

[Plaintiff]

KiddDaBeauty wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

You'd be surprised. In most developed countries, homosexuals can even hold hands and kiss in public without being executed. 

I'd ask you to marry me if we weren't gay on the opposite ends of the spectrum =(
(at least I've always surmised you being male, otherwise your hand is being requested in jest! )

You surmise correctly.

[hangmans tree]

KiddDaBeauty wrote...

My PCs usually end up romancing somebody, so I'd say yes, DA3 should definitely keep romances. I've been very happy to see more reactivity to romance lately too. Whereas nobody aside from my LI ever brought up the connection between the characters in the old games, other characters are now commenting, making jokes and teasing - not to mention a few scenes play out slightly differently depending on your choice of romance.

I think this is great. Romance is a huge thing in people's lives, and getting the opportunity to have our characters live through subplots such as these really strengthen their existence in the virtual world. Having other characters react makes it all feel even more organic.

It's a low cost, game length spanning subplot which serves to add characterisation to your own character and several major players in the character's world. Definitely zots well spent.


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hangmans tree wrote...

Do you know how this sounds? Most of you buy BW games because of romances. And thats it.

Well, that's your interpretation.

I was originally adding a little clause at the end of my post saying it's telling of how people who generally do not enjoy romance content perceive those who do, when I felt the need to put something like "not that this feature should take up anywhere near the majority of the resources or anything."  I didn't write that however since I figured the post was fine on its own without a silly disclaimer. Seeing your post after I originally hit Submit, perhaps one was needed.

Well, I for one like when romances are ingame coz they are a kind of progression of the plot - meaning pc-npc grow fond of eachother (whatever the reason maybe) and NOT because 'we do it for mass appeal' lake its was done lately.

[Kidd]

Spicen wrote...

Well thedas is a middle age country right? I swear i heard somewhere that the church forbade such things.

Funny thing is that Hawke and his mate seems to be the only homos in the entire Thedas

I'll give you a cookie if you find me a single mention of Jesus Christ in either Dragon Age game; or England, or France, or Sweden, or Spain. Likewise I don't remember any Qunari in my history books - you get the picture, I'm sure. Thedas is not medieval Europe, it's a separate setting with its very own parameters.

There are plenty of displays of LGBT identities and sexuality in Thedas. If you don't remember Hespith, Branka, Julien, Nicolas, Serendipity, Wade, Herren and likely others I'm forgetting off the top of my head, then that's simply selective memory and/or perception on your part.

Plaintiff wrote...

You surmise correctly. 

Cool beans, even though that leaves me with a ring unclaimed... *grumbles*

hangmans tree wrote...

Well, I for one like when romances are ingame coz they are a kind of progression of the plot - meaning pc-npc grow fond of eachother (whatever the reason maybe) and NOT because 'we do it for mass appeal' lake its was done lately.

I don't understand what you mean. Please tell me more. The only "mass" thing I can think of is the amount of LIs in ME3 (12, if memory serves?) which led to most of the romances sadly not receiving a lot of dialogue content. But I don't think that's what you referred to.

Modifié par KiddDaBeauty, 13 septembre 2012 - 09:38 .

[N7 ElusiveOne]

I won't lie, the romances in Bioware games are a selling point for me. Though I enjoy them because of the context they provide for the story. I do not appreciate how Bioware deals with physical interaction in these scenes. Kissing and hugging looks awkward and I skip right past sex scenes. Would I still buy a Bioware game if romances were excluded? Probably, as I know the animations during all romantic advances will be horrific and hard to watch. Id like to hope they would get better with time, but it's clearly an especially hard thing to master for them.

Modifié par ElusiveOneN7, 13 septembre 2012 - 10:03 .

[Kidd]

Animation is difficult. Animating two separate models to function together is an outright nightmare.

You can usually get away with not having by-centimeter accuracy when a two handed sword slices somepony in two since the animation will look good regardless. But when people are locking hands and kissing etc, you can't have people putting their hands through their partner's and/or have them kissing noses.

[whykikyouwhy]

"Should there be romance in DA3?" I would like there to be, and would hope that it is indeed included. It is one element of the Dragon Age games, among many other elements, that I enjoy.

[Wulfram]

I like romances.  They're a good excuse to replay the game, and good opportunities for characterisation of both PC and NPC.

Maria Caliban wrote...

I support sex scenes in games and contend that Dragon Age 2's sex scenes are not only better than those in any other BioWare game but better than the vast majority of games and many movies.
 

Dragon Age 2's scenes are only sex scenes by very straight laced standards.

[MichaelStuart]

I can live with out them, but I have no problem with it being put in.

Modifié par MichaelStuart, 13 septembre 2012 - 10:24 .

[N7 ElusiveOne]

KiddDaBeauty wrote...

Animation is difficult. Animating two separate models to function together is an outright nightmare.

You can usually get away with not having by-centimeter accuracy when a two handed sword slices somepony in two since the animation will look good regardless. But when people are locking hands and kissing etc, you can't have people putting their hands through their partner's and/or have them kissing noses.

I figured as much. So maybe I have no right to fault Bioware on their animations not being near perfect in what I consider to be important scenes. This just means I'll continue to skip these scenes for fear of cringing.

[Plaintiff]

Wulfram wrote...

I like romances.  They're a good excuse to replay the game, and good opportunities for characterisation of both PC and NPC.

Maria Caliban wrote...

I support sex scenes in games and contend that Dragon Age 2's sex scenes are not only better than those in any other BioWare game but better than the vast majority of games and many movies.
 

Dragon Age 2's scenes are only sex scenes by very straight laced standards.

Well whatever was happening in DA:O certainly wasn't any sort of sex I ever heard of.

I don't need to see the sex onscreen, and indeed, I would rather not, if it's going to be an awkward, clumsy, unnecessarily long montage of positions.

I think the scenes in DA2 are a vast improvement, at least in the way that the character models move together, and I prefer it when each character has personal scenes, rather than DA:O, where everyone gets pretty much the same thing.

[hexaligned]

KiddDaBeauty wrote...

Spicen wrote...

I heard that USA  were going to legalize the thing after next election. If thats true, it means its not legal yet, right?

As for the USA, the only thing not legalised is marriage. The rest is fine.

)

It's actually based on state law.  Here in NY gay marrage is legal.  It's also legal for women to go topless.... God I love NY.

[gonzalez.melissa53]

I would deeply fear for the safety of the Dev team if the romance opption was removed... Fangirls/boys everywhere would run riot. There would be weeping and nashing of teeth. No one would be safe! And I would be among the horde! XD

[Masha Potato]

why not

[Wulfram]

Plaintiff wrote...

Well whatever was happening in DA:O certainly wasn't any sort of sex I ever heard of.

I don't need to see the sex onscreen, and indeed, I would rather not, if it's going to be an awkward, clumsy, unnecessarily long montage of positions.

I think the scenes in DA2 are a vast improvement, at least in the way that the character models move together, and I prefer it when each character has personal scenes, rather than DA:O, where everyone gets pretty much the same thing.

Yes, DA2's scenes were an improvement on DA:O scenes.  Perhaps because they weren't sex scenes.