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[Jayhau]

Ugh, I must know..

How do you knit your backhair? Does it require a partner? Also what style? Can we expect new styles?

Nothing game related at all of course...

[Ledgend1221]

Chris Priestly wrote...

I'm planning on knitting my backhair into a sweater for the winter. Nothing game related at all.

Or is there?

Collecters confirmed!

[MIA115]

Flog61 wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

I'm planning on knitting my backhair into a sweater for the winter. Nothing game related at all.

Or is there?

Reported for vulgar content.

We really did not need to know that

I guess we know who watches the watchers now.

[Derek Hollan]

GroverA125 wrote...

Derek, Have you been reading the feedback regarding the survey by any chance? Are you responding to the requests for more of a developer presence in the forums, or are we your balls of yarn for the day, and you are just toying with us in your free time?

It will be Jessica Merizan, Chris Priestly, and the rest of the community management team that will be reviewing the surveys.

For my part, when I am not actively working on one project or another, I flit about the MP forums bringing joy and happiness to all the good boys and girls. 

Incidently, the survey has gone around internally as well.

If people really want to see more of a dev presence then, here's a tip:

Developers are people too.  The last thing they want to do is have people; telling them their job; telling them they suck; trying to cram their game-design / balance philsophy down their throats; or generally being jerks by saying things like, "BioFail can't patch worth a crap!", etc and the list goes on.

BSN is meant to be a place for civilized discussion.  You can disagree with each other, certainly, but there is no reason for anyone to be a jerk about it.  Although BSN's medium is the internet, this is supposed to be much more civil than the rest of the internet.  I equate this to being our home and you are all guests in it.  If you urinate in the potted plant, then you will be escorted out.  On the same note, if you are an angry, uncontrolled individual, then you will likewise be escorted off the premises regardless of whether or not you have outright broken any of the rules.  No one wants to engage that sort of person.  No matter the excuse.

We have customer service personnel who specialize in dealing with irate individuals over disputes.  As devs, we aren't customer service people.  We would like to have more open discussions, but in much more controlled and civilized environments.

Ultimately, it comes down to the fact that no dev wants a negative experience engaging people on the forums but I think everyone can agree, at this stage, BSN does not have the safe feel it once did.  Jessica, Chris, and the other BSN managers would like to see that happen again.

Devs can be a shy lot.  If they feel threatened, they will scurry back to their dark, safe, cavernous environments, and eat chocolate, cookies, chips, and other comfort foods until the scary things go away before venturing out into the light again.

I am certain none of this comes as a surprise to anyone but, there you have it.  We need to make this a safe environment in order for more dev sightings to occur.

Maybe not what you wanted to hear but, c'est la vie.

Cheers

[OneTrueShot]

Ledgend1221 wrote...

OneTrueShot wrote...

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Derek Hollan wrote...

OneTrueShot wrote...

What I must know, Derek, are you willing to accept the one and only Biotic God into your life and love him with all you are?

Protip: We have strawberry milk and cookies and the drugging is only mildly nauseating.

Milk and cookies, eh?

Awefully tempting.

Let me get back to you.

Join the brotherhood instead.
Milk, cookies, Ice cream and puppies!

He never declared you get to keep your teeth. How can you enjoy the things he stated without your teeth? ESPECIALLY THE PUPPIES.

It's a trap, Derek, don't do it!

Who needs teeth when we have Unicorns and glue(Not related in anyway.)

No glue here.

[SilentCO1]

Back hair sweater... Does this mean... Yahg characters!?!

[Pavs719]

Derek Hollan wrote...

GroverA125 wrote...

Derek, Have you been reading the feedback regarding the survey by any chance? Are you responding to the requests for more of a developer presence in the forums, or are we your balls of yarn for the day, and you are just toying with us in your free time?

It will be Jessica Merizan, Chris Priestly, and the rest of the community management team that will be reviewing the surveys.

For my part, when I am not actively working on one project or another, I flit about the MP forums bringing joy and happiness to all the good boys and girls. 

Incidently, the survey has gone around internally as well.

If people really want to see more of a dev presence then, here's a tip:

Developers are people too.  The last thing they want to do is have people; telling them their job; telling them they suck; trying to cram their game-design / balance philsophy down their throats; or generally being jerks by saying things like, "BioFail can't patch worth a crap!", etc and the list goes on.

BSN is meant to be a place for civilized discussion.  You can disagree with each other, certainly, but there is no reason for anyone to be a jerk about it.  Although BSN's medium is the internet, this is supposed to be much more civil than the rest of the internet.  I equate this to being our home and you are all guests in it.  If you urinate in the potted plant, then you will be escorted out.  On the same note, if you are an angry, uncontrolled individual, then you will likewise be escorted off the premises regardless of whether or not you have outright broken any of the rules.  No one wants to engage that sort of person.  No matter the excuse.

We have customer service personnel who specialize in dealing with irate individuals over disputes.  As devs, we aren't customer service people.  We would like to have more open discussions, but in much more controlled and civilized environments.

Ultimately, it comes down to the fact that no dev wants a negative experience engaging people on the forums but I think everyone can agree, at this stage, BSN does not have the safe feel it once did.  Jessica, Chris, and the other BSN managers would like to see that happen again.

Devs can be a shy lot.  If they feel threatened, they will scurry back to their dark, safe, cavernous environments, and eat chocolate, cookies, chips, and other comfort foods until the scary things go away before venturing out into the light again.

I am certain none of this comes as a surprise to anyone but, there you have it.  We need to make this a safe environment in order for more dev sightings to occur.

Maybe not what you wanted to hear but, c'est la vie.

Cheers

Fair enough but were are the team that can help reference my collector rifle upgrade or my missing bioware points, you say your here for the community and yet after a month and two weeks of being fobbed off by both EA/Bioware, my 2 cases have never been resolved, all I get is wait another week, then wait another week, its now past due.

[Derek Hollan]

Of course devs do not want a negative experiance; however the shouldn't just ignore all critcism on the forums and lavish in all the praise, or they will never be able to adapt and evolve to fit situations.


Just because a thread 0praises bioware dies not mean it is a constructive argument; just because a thread has a negative view doen not mean it is not a constuctive argument.



To keep your fans you need to accept both negative and positive criticisms

Agreed but it comes down to how those criticisms are presented.  We take all constructive criticism as...well, constructive whether good or bad.

We also take uncalled for comments and desctructive negativity at face value.  A constantly negative, destructive individual will never get a response from anyone here...except in the form of a ban.

[CmnDwnWrkn]

Chris Priestly wrote...

I'm planning on knitting my backhair into a sweater for the winter. Nothing game related at all.

Or is there?

OMG, a new clue!!

"Or is there?"

What does he mean by this??

*Gets to work deciphering

Modifié par CmnDwnWrkn, 13 septembre 2012 - 09:13 .

[nicola_nibhroin]

Flog61 wrote...

To keep your fans you need to accept both negative and positive criticisms

There's a difference between positive and negative criticism and people just being tools- which is the point Derek was making, I believe.

A discussion can be critical of a product without devolving into hysterical name-calling. When it gets to the point where terms like 'Biofail' are being tossed about you've lost pretty much all chance at productivity and intelligent dialogue and the whole exercise becomes pointless.

The developers gain nothing from that (beyond irritation, I imagine), and we as gamers fare likewise.

It is entirely possible to make your genuine complaints- even ones you passionately feel are in need of being addressed urgently, or even game-breaking- in a manner which is constructive and, human nature being what it is, it is probably far more likely to get a response.

[MrFuddyDuddy]

Maybe they'll anounce a ME MMO or something, a new DLC woulld probably just add 2 or 3 new guns which will proably be OP, another 6 class' that will all be deemed OP 15 minutes after release, and who can forget another 3 MP maps that are all pulled right out of the SP. I just feel that any new content added to this games MP at this point is beating a dead horse as it has so much competition with so many new releases and DC's for other titles.

[Derek Hollan]

nicola_nibhroin wrote...

Flog61 wrote...

To keep your fans you need to accept both negative and positive criticisms

There's a difference between positive and negative criticism and people just being tools- which is the point Derek was making, I believe.

A discussion can be critical of a product without devolving into hysterical name-calling. When it gets to the point where terms like 'Biofail' are being tossed about you've lost pretty much all chance at productivity and intelligent dialogue and the whole exercise becomes pointless.

The developers gain nothing from that (beyond irritation, I imagine), and we as gamers fare likewise.

It is entirely possible to make your genuine complaints- even ones you passionately feel are in need of being addressed urgently, or even game-breaking- in a manner which is constructive and, human nature being what it is, it is probably far more likely to get a response.

Well said

[Pavs719]

So in other words then it is a waste of time here trying to get help?

[Nicegil2012]

Interesting.... I see...Yes of course....AHA!

[shepskisaac]

Chris Priestly wrote...

I'm planning on knitting my backhair into a sweater for the winter. Nothing game related at all.

Or is there?

Don't Elcor have backhair? ELCOR DLC CONFIRMED!!!11

[build319]

Derek Hollan wrote...

GroverA125 wrote...

Derek, Have you been reading the feedback regarding the survey by any chance? Are you responding to the requests for more of a developer presence in the forums, or are we your balls of yarn for the day, and you are just toying with us in your free time?

It will be Jessica Merizan, Chris Priestly, and the rest of the community management team that will be reviewing the surveys.

For my part, when I am not actively working on one project or another, I flit about the MP forums bringing joy and happiness to all the good boys and girls. 

Incidently, the survey has gone around internally as well.

If people really want to see more of a dev presence then, here's a tip:

Developers are people too.  The last thing they want to do is have people; telling them their job; telling them they suck; trying to cram their game-design / balance philsophy down their throats; or generally being jerks by saying things like, "BioFail can't patch worth a crap!", etc and the list goes on.

BSN is meant to be a place for civilized discussion.  You can disagree with each other, certainly, but there is no reason for anyone to be a jerk about it.  Although BSN's medium is the internet, this is supposed to be much more civil than the rest of the internet.  I equate this to being our home and you are all guests in it.  If you urinate in the potted plant, then you will be escorted out.  On the same note, if you are an angry, uncontrolled individual, then you will likewise be escorted off the premises regardless of whether or not you have outright broken any of the rules.  No one wants to engage that sort of person.  No matter the excuse.

We have customer service personnel who specialize in dealing with irate individuals over disputes.  As devs, we aren't customer service people.  We would like to have more open discussions, but in much more controlled and civilized environments.

Ultimately, it comes down to the fact that no dev wants a negative experience engaging people on the forums but I think everyone can agree, at this stage, BSN does not have the safe feel it once did.  Jessica, Chris, and the other BSN managers would like to see that happen again.

Devs can be a shy lot.  If they feel threatened, they will scurry back to their dark, safe, cavernous environments, and eat chocolate, cookies, chips, and other comfort foods until the scary things go away before venturing out into the light again.

I am certain none of this comes as a surprise to anyone but, there you have it.  We need to make this a safe environment in order for more dev sightings to occur.

Maybe not what you wanted to hear but, c'est la vie.

Cheers

EVERYONE NEEDS TO READ THIS!

I cannot agree with your sentiment much more.  

[DESTRAUDO]

Think of it like this. From the point of the consumer, the game is a product. Like a mcdonalds hamburger. But from the core of the dev teams point of view, the artists, the writers etc, it is a home baked apple pie, or a dinner lovingly crafted.

Telling the guy in mcdonalds that their burger sucked is one thing, but telling someone who lovingly crafted a homemade dinner that it sucked, whether it is a true or false statement is going to cut the person who was waiting with great hope to hear the words 'it was delicious!' While we consume objectively, they do not create that way.

I am not saying they are not adults or that they should be treated with kid gloves, but until one can/ can visualize lovingly preparing a home-cooked meal for someone you care about only to have it throw back in your face and critiqued into the ground it is difficult to fully empathize with a devs position.

[Jayhau]

Backcombed hair?

Asari?

Wait... What's backcombing?

[shepskisaac]

Flog61 wrote...

Do they actually?

No. I'm just making stuff up while looking for an excuse to promote playable Elcor tanks

[CmnDwnWrkn]

IsaacShep wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

I'm planning on knitting my backhair into a sweater for the winter. Nothing game related at all.

Or is there?

Don't Elcor have backhair? ELCOR DLC CONFIRMED!!!11

Not sure, but they do wear a thing on their backs that looks like a sweater!!

Either way, we are clearly getting playable Elcor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Derek Hollan]

Flog61 wrote...

Derek Hollan wrote...

Of course devs do not want a negative experiance; however the shouldn't just ignore all critcism on the forums and lavish in all the praise, or they will never be able to adapt and evolve to fit situations.


Just because a thread 0praises bioware dies not mean it is a constructive argument; just because a thread has a negative view doen not mean it is not a constuctive argument.



To keep your fans you need to accept both negative and positive criticisms

Agreed but it comes down to how those criticisms are presented.  We take all constructive criticism as...well, constructive whether good or bad.

We also take uncalled for comments and desctructive negativity at face value.  A constantly negative, destructive individual will never get a response from anyone here...except in the form of a ban.

The form of more developer comment i would want is on the thought out threads, not the spam/trollnig ones.

They need a biiger prescene; many of the superb threads here have gone basically unnoticed by bioware

And, if we work together, given time, we can begin to see more of a developer presence.  I would also like to see this happen.  Right now, we have a lot of nervous devs peeking out of their hovels.