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[revo76]

Mass Effect: The Best known Sci-Fi franchise

Mass Effect 3: The Worst game in the best sci-fi based game franchise

Mass Effect 2: The Best game in the best sci-fi based game franchise.

Too complicated ? Short answer: ME2 was the best.

[Yate]

I think no. It holds up well in the series, but ultimately there are too many ideas that weren't executed properly.

Sooner or later, BioWare or some other company is going to make an ME-type epic saga with carry-over saves, and it'll be done far better.

Nobody's ever tried doing something like Mass Effect 3 before, it might not be the best game ever, but it'll inspire a thousand other great games.

[pgcis136]

Mumba1511 wrote...

 

What Mumba said.

[Ozida]

to LeandroBraz wrote...

Once again, to prove that I am not a true "hater" and use my honest judgement, I'll give you a scale of "awesomeness" of games that I usually use to measure how great each game is. This includes:

Plot
Characters
Uniqueness
Graphics
Gameplay
Sound/ music/ VO

Points are positioned in importance order, so Plot is more important to me, than, let's say, a gameplay.

Here is how I rate Fallout 2, one of the most epic post-apocalypses RPGs (in my opinion, of course):
1. Plot - 10/10
2. Characters - 10/10
3. Uniqueness - 8/10 (because it is a sequel, it is not as unique as Fallout 1... Besides, there were more similar games after Falllout 1 came out at that time).
4. Graphics - 9/10
5. Gameplay - 10/10
6. Sound - 10/10.

So it total Fallout 2, the game that I personally consider one of the best experiences I have played, gains 9.5 points.

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Now Me3 scale is something like this:
1. Plot - 3/10. I have seen super-weapon ideas that solve all problems too many times and it bores me. The game is shorter than it should be and fetch quests don't add anything to the story. The worlds seem very limited comparing to previous two games, I got sick of Citadel pretty soon. I also didn't like how Priority quests went in specific order, so it was too linear. And endings, of course, I cannot just "forget about them" all of a sudden. Reapers act like idiots, there is nothing mysterious left of them... and, oh yeah, we are actually fighting with Cerberus 99% of time, while I was under the impression, that Reapers are our main threat.  And, honestly, why London? Is it because Anderson was born there?
2. Characters - 5/10. Characters are OK, but while some got great treatment, others felt bland. There are only two moments that touch my heart in the whole game: Mordin's death and Grunt's survival. Samara almost killing herself is cheesy, Thane's death is pathetic, Jacob didn't get any personal interactions at all, Kaidan is gay all of a sudden, and I disapprove what they did to EDI.
3. Uniqueness - 5/10. Once again, because it is a sequel I always rate it lower on uniqueness. They have added new enemies and I give BioWare credit for that. However, there are many elements in the game borrowed from other media. I am not shocked or upset about seeing the same cliché over and over, but this does make me bored.
4. Graphics - 9/10. I had some glitches with face expressions, so it ruined it a bit for me, but overall, it was great.
5. Gameplay - 8/10 - It losses the point for journal system, it was terrible. I also had some minor glitches in control.
6.  Sound - 10/10. Epic, I always thought the com[poser did fanastic job.

That gives it 6.6 points. As I said in my original post, a good C+ game.

And if you find an animated pictures offensive, I will put it in words: "The idea that ME3 could possibly be called the best game ever made makes me laugh, because there are so many better games out there that it cannot even compete".

Modifié par Ozida, 14 septembre 2012 - 03:09 .

[stonbw1]

revo76 wrote...

Mass Effect: The Best known Sci-Fi franchise

Mass Effect 3: The Worst game in the best sci-fi based game franchise

Mass Effect 2: The Best game in the best sci-fi based game franchise.

Too complicated ? Short answer: ME2 was the best.

What made ME2 the best, in your opinion?  Even while playing ME2, I knew it to be weak:  irrelevant story arc, uninspired squadmates with a few notable exceptions, simple corridor shooter-characteristics, and don't get me started on the baby terminator...  ME2 had some strong points: great combat/diversity of classes, Legion, and I liked the different outcomes from the SM. Otherwise, I put it #3 of the ME franchise. I respect your opinion, especially since SO MANY on the BSN claim #2 was the best.  I just remember the furor after it was released (not ME3-ending furor), but deafening nonetheless.

[LeandroBraz]

Ozida wrote...

to LeandroBraz wrote...

Once again, to prove that I am not a true "hater" and use my honest judgement, I'll give you a scale of "awesomeness" of games that I usually use to measure how great each game is. This includes:

Plot
Characters
Uniqueness
Graphics
Gameplay
Sound/ music/ VO

Points are positioned in importance order, so Plot is more important to me, than, let's say, a gameplay.

Here is how I rate Fallout 2, one of the most epic post-apocalypses RPGs (in my opinion, of course):
1. Plot - 10/10
2. Characters - 10/10
3. Uniqueness - 8/10 (because it is a sequel, it is not as unique as Fallout 1... Besides, there were more similar games after Falllout 1 came out at that time).
4. Graphics - 9/10
5. Gameplay - 10/10
6. Sound - 10/10.

So it total Fallout 2, the game that I personally consider one of the best experiences I have played, gains 9.5 points.

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Now Me3 scale is something like this:
1. Plot - 3/10. I have seen super-weapon ideas that solve all problems too many times and it bores me. The game is shorter than it should be and fetch quests don't add anything to the story. The worlds seem very limited comparing to previous two games, I got sick of Citadel pretty soon. I also didn't like how Priority quests went in specific order, so it was too linear. And endings, of course, I cannot just "forget about them" all of a sudden. Reapers act like idiots, there is nothing mysterious left of them... and, oh yeah, we are actually fighting with Cerberus 99% of time, while I was under the impression, that Reapers are our main threat.  And, honestly, why London? Is it because Anderson was born there?
2. Characters - 5/10. Characters are OK, but while some got great treatment, others felt bland. There are only two moments that touch my heart in the whole game: Mordin's death and Grunt's survival. Samara almost killing herself is cheesy, Thane's death is pathetic, Jacob didn't get any personal interactions at all, Kaidan is gay all of a sudden, and I disapprove what they did to EDI.
3. Uniqueness - 5/10. Once again, because it is a sequel I always rate it lower on uniqueness. They have added new enemies and I give BioWare credit for that. However, there are many elements in the game borrowed from other media. I am not shocked or upset about seeing the same cliché over and over, but this does make me bored.
4. Graphics - 9/10. I had some glitches with face expressions, so it ruined it a bit for me, but overall, it was great.
5. Gameplay - 8/10 - It losses the point for journal system, it was terrible. I also had some minor glitches in control.
6.  Sound - 10/10. Epic, I always thought the com[poser did fanastic job.

That gives it 6.6 points. As I said in my original post, a good C+ game.

And if you find an animated pictures offensive, I will put it in words: "The idea that ME3 could possibly be called the best game ever made makes me laugh, because there are so many better games out there that it cannot even compete".

I disagree about characters (Agree about EDI, her having a body and the Joker romance was kind of forced), and the game is not a simple sequel, the save import is a major feature that clearly distinguishes it from other franchises sequels. When was the last time a game started with at least 15 characters being possibly dead? If this is not uniquiness, I don't know what it is. Off course, it didn't had the deepeness we hope this differences would have, but still, it's a pioneer on the concept.

just two things about your reply:

- I didn't called you Hater, I said that most of the negativism towards ME3 come from emotional answer, so no need to explain why you aren't a "true hater", I never said you are.

- I didn't found the animated picture offensive, I never stated anything about it. 

Modifié par LeandroBraz, 14 septembre 2012 - 03:30 .

[CronoDragoon]

LeCavalier wrote...

No it's not. There are at least 10 other games that would be considered before ME3. In no particular order they would be:

Red Dead Redemption
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Metal Gear Solid (PS1)
The Witcher 2
Resident Evil 2 (PS1)
Okami
Kingdom Hearts 2
Warcraft 3
Half-Life
Knights of the Old Republic

and those are just the ones off the top of my head. ME 3 is a good game, but it will always have the "but" factor tied to it because of the endings and the controversies surrounding it. It will probably be more known for the fallout about the endings then anything else.

I get the feeling many people are just listing their favorite games. RE2 is my second favorite game of all time, but objectively by today's standards it's crap. The tank-turning system was cute back in the PSX days but RE4 was a drastic upgrade in maneuverability.

[Ozida]

LeandroBraz wrote...

I disagree about characters (Agree about EDI, her having a body and the Joker romance was kind of forced), and the game is not a simple sequel, the save import is a major feature that clearly distinguishes it from other franchises sequels.

The save import: a) didn't really work the first time I tried it; was replaced by simmilar results when i started the default game. After all, it is "the perfect game for newcomers"

When was the last time a game started with at least 15 characters being possibly dead?

ME2?

just two things about your reply:

- I didn't called you Hater, I said that most of the negativism towards ME3 come from emotional answer, so no need to explain why you aren't a "true hater", I never said you are.
- I didn't found the animated picture offensive, I never stated anything about it. 

My bad, sorry, I must have misunderstood your reply.

Modifié par Ozida, 14 septembre 2012 - 03:35 .

[Thaa_solon]

hmmmmmmmmm

Every time I see my copy of ME3, I want to throw it to the ground...

[Cobretti ftw]

not by a long shot.the plot SUCKS there are just too many problems for it to be considered a grade 8 game. My final veredict was 7...more tan that is just mpossibleunless u are huge fanboy.

[Nicodemus]

How do you judge the criteria that make a game great? Everyone has different ways of judging that.

For me it's how many times I want to replay it. A game can be well made and the story compelling but if you only play it once it's a good game not a great one.

Great games make you want to play them again and again and again and for every person those games are probably different. If you ask the average ME fan how many times they played ME1 or ME2 you'd find out that most played them multiple times. For a lot of folks ME3 was not a game that made people want to play it again and again. Sure it has some great gameplay and graphics and at times story, but once I've finished a game I find I don't want to play it again, then it is not a great game.

[CronoDragoon]

Terror_K wrote...

Overall though, the main points for me is that most of the things I got into the series for and loved about it were so lacking, watered down or missing from ME3, it made it a total fail. Add to this the fact that our choices just didn't matter and it was as linear and railroading as hell, and overall it not only meets up to expecations, but has almost none of what I feel are the key factors of the series. To me most of the few factors they did right are things I just don't care that much about. Combat was always the least interesting feature, IMO. I got into it for the roleplaying, the idea that choices would matter, for the dialogue choices and the feeling I can explore this great sci-fi universe. ME3 had pretty much NONE of that any more.

This is the heart of the issue. As the series progressed, certain aspects were prioritized with others were minimized or deleted. What you value as a gamer ultimately decides your opinion on Mass Effect's progression as a series. For me, I like the dialogue wheel fine, but I value good cutscenes and dialogue more. I believe Mass Effect 3 is a good balance between having good cinematic cutscenes while still leaving any decision in the player's hands with the dialogue wheel - and here I define decision not as role-playing a specific attitude, but rather role-playing a specific code of action.

Mass Effect 3 was linear because it had a lengthy central plotline in which each section of the plot was connected in a timeline with the other parts of the plot. The reason that ME1 and ME2 let you have more choice is that the central plotlines are fairly short and  in comparison to the overall length of the game, and because the individual parts of the story can be largely disconnected from a coherent timeline.

For you, this turned out to be a strength because you like being able to choose which section of the story comes next. I do to a certain extent, but only if it doesn't sacrifice the overall quality of the central plot, which for me it did in ME1. I found the Thorian and Rachni plots utterly boring, and having to go through a few hours of a subplot in order to be fed a scrap of info for the main plot was a weakness for me.

As for choices not mattering, some did and some did not. Rannoch, for example, exemplifies precisely the culmination of choices throughout the series that the fans were hoping for. Other decisions, like the Rachni and Collector Base, had to be minimized because the scope of possible choice in the ME series had grown too large. But every single decision you make contained within ME3 has huge consequences story-wise, in Tuchanka, Rannoch, the Citadel/Cerberus invasion, and of course Earth.

[Cashmoney007]

People actually think that ME3 is one of the best games ever made? Really? Have other people not played amazing games like Half-Life 2, Uncharted 3, AC2, Doom 2, Prince of Persia: Sands of time, Starcraft, Knights of the Old Republic, and Warcraft 2? I could continue with more but that is enough for now.  I should make it clear that they are not the best of all time but still better than ME3 all the way around in my opinion.  Anyways, ME3 is a sub-par game at best. It had some amazing action sequences like where you fight a reaper one on one. The rest of mission on Tuchanka was a lot of fun as well as seeing the worm. I also enjoyed the mission on Citadel where it got attacked until I saw Kal Leng which was an awful villain. I also enjoyed the scene with tali on the Qurian home world. I didn't enjoy doing side quests where I don't even land on the planet. I just scan and then get the item. Bioware should have left it the other way like in ME2. Personally, I like to explore planets and always enjoyed that in both ME1 and ME2. But then on top of that, they decided to limit how many people you have in your squad. ME1 and ME2 gave you a bigger squad. I wanted to have Grunt back on the team and also Miranda and not just help them for a little while and then they go do something else.

Allers and Vega didn't even need to be on my Normandy. Why do we even need Vega when we have Williams? I just found that to be a waste. Allers was not a very interesting character and should have kicked her off the Normandy but decided not too. I read the back story of Vega and was actually pretty good but still didn't belong on the Normandy. Grunt was a much more interesting character as well as Miranda.

The game could have been amazing just like ME1 and ME2 as other people have pointed out on this topic. But even after the EC came out, I still didn't love this game and still don't. I had fun with certain parts of the game, and even enjoyed the bucket list on the citadel. Bioware should have made it so all those war assets mattered in the finale battle.  My goal in the game was always to destroy the Reapers even if I died doing it.  The way the final scene was constructed should not have gone that way at all.  Bioware should have just ran with the indoctrination theory.

Modifié par Cashmoney007, 14 septembre 2012 - 06:46 .

[CronoDragoon]

Cashmoney007 wrote...

People actually think that ME3 is one of the best games ever made? Really? Have other people not played amazing games like Half-Life 2, Uncharted 3, AC2, Doom 2, Prince of Persia: Sands of time, Starcraft, Knights of the Old Republic, and Warcraft 2?

More listing of favorite games. For the record, I don't believe ME3 is the best game ever, but many of these games don't come close either. Especially Warcraft and Doom. Sands of Time had a charming story, but it's gameplay was punked by Warrior Within. Uncharted 3 is my favorite of the series, but that is not the popular opinion of the fanbase. Assassin Creed 2 might actually be one of the greatest games of all time, however, considering the total package. KOTOR's gameplay would get laughed at today.

Modifié par CronoDragoon, 14 septembre 2012 - 04:06 .

[Cashmoney007]

CronoDragoon wrote...

Cashmoney007 wrote...

People actually think that ME3 is one of the best games ever made? Really? Have other people not played amazing games like Half-Life 2, Uncharted 3, AC2, Doom 2, Prince of Persia: Sands of time, Starcraft, Knights of the Old Republic, and Warcraft 2?

More listing of favorite games. For the record, I don't believe ME3 is the best game ever, but many of these games don't come close either. Especially Warcraft and Doom. Sands of Time had a charming story, but it's gameplay was punked by Warrior Within. Uncharted 3 is my favorite of the series, but that is not the popular opinion of the fanbase. Assassin Creed 2 might actually be one of the greatest games of all time, however, considering the total package. KOTOR's gameplay would get laughed at today.

But all those games gave you everything that you could ask for at the time.  It is probably true that they wouldn't hold a candle to what games have become.  I didn't play Warrior Within so I can't say anything about that one.  Uncharted 3 should be the popular opinion because it was the best game out of the series.  I should have also added the Metal Gear Series.  I am also going to add Golden Eye for Nintendo 64 because that was one amazing game though the graphics would not hold up these days but still amazing.  I personally feel that all those games I put up are better than ME3.  I can't say some of them are when it comes to graphics.

Modifié par Cashmoney007, 14 septembre 2012 - 04:36 .

[Blueprotoss]

JBPBRC wrote...

No. ME2 was better.

Everyone can have an opinion, but ME2 wasn't the better RPG compared to ME3.

Shepard Cmdr wrote...

no, there were too many flaws other than the endings. glitches, fetch quests, auto dialogue, and the ending was atrocious.

Yet you decribed what some people said in ME1 and ME2 before ME3. 

dorktainian wrote...

Mass Effect 2 is just so much better than ME3. How can anyone justify ME3 being one of the best games ...... really delusional. There are MANY better games.

Yet anyone could say the same about ME2.  To be fair ME2 didn't get 75 perfect scores.

Ozida wrote...

Anger and hate have nothing to do with that. But there are soooo many games that are better than ME3, that it seems that you may just have a poor gaming experience claiming "the best". It is a good mediocre game, something that I would've given a good C+.

As for us, "hater", being here, I can only speak for myself, but discussing ME3 is actually much more fun than playing it. And I am not a heppy bunny about that, believe me.

This is always a factor especially when you at BSN in the past with ME1 and ME2.

Shepard Cmdr wrote...

Yes 75 perfect scores can easily be wrong when the people giving those reviews are on EAs payroll
Yes I am still on these forums, because the game had quite a few bad qualities that Bioware could easily (or maybe not so easily fix) but the point is that they are calling it art, and refusing to admit that they screwed up.  I did not get what I paid for, and instead of a refund, which I will never get, and to tell the truth do not want.  I want the product that I paid for.

Yet this is a contradiction because opinion is usually never wrong and this is also a double-edged sword when some people will always rage about something.  No matter what reviewer you look at its a 2nd opinion whether it was biased or unbiased, which most of those 75 perfect scores weren't biased.  Its like saying that the Elder Scroll games don't deserve their perfect scores and Game of the Year awards.

Shortened wrote...

ME3 was a good game, but it wasn't even in the same class of game as ME1 and ME2 for me. I enjoyed ME3 but there was quite a few instances where you could tell it was rushed and that it had changed to try to appeal to the wider audiences too much (which hurt the game and my overall experience playing it).

ME3 was far from rushed since ME3 and ME2 were developed and prodcued at the same time, which means ME2 had the shorter developement and production.  The widening of audience happened the most in ME2 especially when most of the RPG elements were removed in ME2. 

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 14 septembre 2012 - 05:11 .

[Blueprotoss]

Cashmoney007 wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

Cashmoney007 wrote...

People actually think that ME3 is one of the best games ever made? Really? Have other people not played amazing games like Half-Life 2, Uncharted 3, AC2, Doom 2, Prince of Persia: Sands of time, Starcraft, Knights of the Old Republic, and Warcraft 2?

More listing of favorite games. For the record, I don't believe ME3 is the best game ever, but many of these games don't come close either. Especially Warcraft and Doom. Sands of Time had a charming story, but it's gameplay was punked by Warrior Within. Uncharted 3 is my favorite of the series, but that is not the popular opinion of the fanbase. Assassin Creed 2 might actually be one of the greatest games of all time, however, considering the total package. KOTOR's gameplay would get laughed at today.

But all those games gave you everything that you could ask for at the time.  It is probably true that they wouldn't hold a candle to what games have become.  I didn't play Warrior Within so I can't say anything about that one.  Uncharted 3 should be the popular opinion because it was the best game out of the series.  I should have also added the Metal Gear Series.  I am also going to add Golden Eye for Nintendo 64 because that was one amazing game though the graphics would not hold up these days but still amazing.  I personally feel that all those games I put up are better than ME3.  I can't say some of them are when it comes to graphics.

Its a matter of opinion of whats better just like how some ME fans vary on what ME game is the best.  To deny opinion of whether someone is right or wrong is contradicting of what an opinion is unless if someone tries to turn an opinion into a fact.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 14 septembre 2012 - 04:43 .

[CronoDragoon]

Cashmoney007 wrote...

But all those games gave you everything that you could ask for at the time.  It is probably true that they wouldn't hold a candle to what games have become.  I didn't play Warrior Within so I can't say anything about that one.  Uncharted 3 should be the popular opinion because it was the best game out of the series.  I should have also added the Metal Gear Series.  I am also going to add Golden Eye for Nintendo 64 because that was one amazing game though the graphics would not hold up these days but still amazing.  I personally feel that all those games I put up are better than ME3.  I can't say some of them are when it comes to graphics.

While they might have been great for their time, that doesn't mean they are some of the greatest games of all time. It isn't just the graphics, either. Gameplay has evolved leaps and bounds. If someone played GoldenEye today they would think it was a terrible FPS. If you want to make a universal claim about a game's greatness, it must hold up to modern standards. The only exception would, of course, be a game's story which, like a movie, is independent of technical prowess.

[AllegedVixEo]

I agree.  I don't have a problem with the endings, but to me ME3 is just one big ending and a glorious one, at that.  I loved the game.  I've never had a story line in a video game pull so drastically on my heart strings.  I think the decision at the end was tough, and yes I do prefer the ending with Extended Cut DLC (it seems like it should have been there all along).  That said, I felt like I could really empathize with my Shepard character who was put in a position to make this grueling decision that she didn't really want to make, she didn't feel she was qualified to make, but she was chosen to make - and it effected the entire galaxy.  The emotion I experienced afterward was unexpected, and hard to deal with, but I've never had a game put me in the main character's shoes like that.  And overall, I was really impressed with ME3.

[Cashmoney007]

Blueprotoss wrote...

Cashmoney007 wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

Cashmoney007 wrote...

People actually think that ME3 is one of the best games ever made? Really? Have other people not played amazing games like Half-Life 2, Uncharted 3, AC2, Doom 2, Prince of Persia: Sands of time, Starcraft, Knights of the Old Republic, and Warcraft 2?

More listing of favorite games. For the record, I don't believe ME3 is the best game ever, but many of these games don't come close either. Especially Warcraft and Doom. Sands of Time had a charming story, but it's gameplay was punked by Warrior Within. Uncharted 3 is my favorite of the series, but that is not the popular opinion of the fanbase. Assassin Creed 2 might actually be one of the greatest games of all time, however, considering the total package. KOTOR's gameplay would get laughed at today.

But all those games gave you everything that you could ask for at the time.  It is probably true that they wouldn't hold a candle to what games have become.  I didn't play Warrior Within so I can't say anything about that one.  Uncharted 3 should be the popular opinion because it was the best game out of the series.  I should have also added the Metal Gear Series.  I am also going to add Golden Eye for Nintendo 64 because that was one amazing game though the graphics would not hold up these days but still amazing.  I personally feel that all those games I put up are better than ME3.  I can't say some of them are when it comes to graphics.

Its a matter of opinion of whats better just like how some ME fans vary on what ME game is the best.  To deny opinion of whether someone is right or wrong is contradicting of what an opinion is unless if someone tries to turn an opinion into a fact.

I can agree with what you are saying.  But I feel that consumers should get everything they deserve and not settle with half of it.

[Blueprotoss]

Cashmoney007 wrote...

I can agree with what you are saying.  But I feel that consumers should get everything they deserve and not settle with half of it.

To be fair everybody does get what they wanted and design will always change during a production of a project just like in ME as a whole.  What consumers think just like most people are mainly opinion based.

[Cashmoney007]

Blueprotoss wrote...

Cashmoney007 wrote...

I can agree with what you are saying.  But I feel that consumers should get everything they deserve and not settle with half of it.

To be fair everybody does get what they wanted and design will always change during a production of a project just like in ME as a whole.  What consumers think just like most people are mainly opinion based.

I can see what you are saying.  But at times people get shortchanged by videogame companies when they were promised a lot.  The companies should not make promises when they don't come through.

Modifié par Cashmoney007, 14 septembre 2012 - 06:04 .

[CronoDragoon]

Cashmoney007 wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

Cashmoney007 wrote...

I can agree with what you are saying.  But I feel that consumers should get everything they deserve and not settle with half of it.

To be fair everybody does get what they wanted and design will always change during a production of a project just like in ME as a whole.  What consumers think just like most people are mainly opinion based.

I can see what you are saying.  But at times people get short-changed by videogame companies when they were promised a lot.  The companies should not make promises when they don't come through.

BW made unreasonable, grandiose claims for this game without a doubt. But I don't feel short-changed even if it didn't live up to their claims. It's like eating a piece of pizza some dude says will change your life but doesn't. Still a fantastic piece of pizza.

I avoided all pre-release marketing and info btw, so I was able to avoid the over-hyping.

[Blueprotoss]

Cashmoney007 wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

Cashmoney007 wrote...

I can agree with what you are saying.  But I feel that consumers should get everything they deserve and not settle with half of it.

To be fair everybody does get what they wanted and design will always change during a production of a project just like in ME as a whole.  What consumers think just like most people are mainly opinion based.

I can see what you are saying.  But at times people get short-changed by videogame companies when they were promised a lot.  The companies should not make promises when they don't come through.

Promises are usually never set in "stone" with video games unless if you're name is Peter Molyneaux.

CronoDragoon wrote...

BW made unreasonable, grandiose claims for this game without a doubt. But I don't feel short-changed even if it didn't live up to their claims. It's like eating a piece of pizza some dude says will change your life but doesn't. Still a fantastic piece of pizza.

I avoided all pre-release marketing and info btw, so I was able to avoid the over-hyping.

What Bioware promised is what we got but nippicking on what words were used is shrouded by opinion.

The real peice of over-hyping occured from the way too high expectations from some of the fans.  I won't lie, but I had low expectations for ME3 based on ME2. 

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 14 septembre 2012 - 05:03 .

[dancarrero]

 Its a very good game. A lot of disappointed fans have gone overboard in the criticism. I'm disappointed but I can recognize it is very good. However, I rank it third in the trilogy. It certainly isnt a great game.