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[zRz Tyr]

+ The phaeston sounds ridiculous (is that how you spell it), and needs another colour. It looks awesome when it's black.

[zRz Tyr]

Ziegrif wrote...

pffft. assault rifles.
I NEED A GUDDAMN MINIGUN!!



A-10 mingun for multiplayer!

OOOO-YEA! ****S GONA GET REAL!

[Star fury]

Zaidra wrote...

Right, and when you run out of them by wave 3, what then? Running back to the ammo crates gets tiresome and dangerous. 

Use them wisely, not on wave 1 for killing a husk.

If you don't like running to ammo crates, it doesn't make Harrier worse.

Oh and Phaeston is a great AR for engineers - light and have decent damage, easily applies ammo effects.

Modifié par Star fury, 14 septembre 2012 - 08:05 .

[DESTRAUDO]

zRz Tyr wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

pffft. assault rifles.
I NEED A GUDDAMN MINIGUN!!



A-10 mingun for multiplayer!

OOOO-YEA! ****S GONA GET REAL!

The A10 is probably one of the coolest vehicles ever built in the real world.  Every sci fi franchise should have an equivelant. 

[Lord Rosario]

Sorry.. when a pistol is comparable to a heavy single shot rifle and a sub machine gun is better than any full auto assault rifle, that is just bad.. Assault Rifles need more bang for their weight. Same goes for Snipers.

You'd think some of the heaviest weapons in the game would also be able to push out the most damage in the most efficient way possible.

[Trontor]

Mass Effect does not have an AR problem. 

Yes, it does.

Falcon - One of the best utility guns in the game, penultimate Phantom control (GPS is ultimate), now lightweight for an AR, incredible for applying ammo powers.  One of the best guns in the game when filling its niche.

The Falcon is not an assault rifle, it is a granade launcher.

Saber (which you didn't list) - Love it on Batarians, Krogans and the Destroyer.  Headshot machine, sold damage per shot, works at any range from CQC to all the way across the map

The Saber is not an assault rifle, it is a sniper rifle without a scope.

Mattock - Not my cup of tea, but I have watched others do very well with it.

The Mattoch is not an assault rifle, it is a sniper rifle without a scope.

Revenant - See Mattock. 

The Revenant is not an assault rifle, it is a light machine gun. And I'm not making up that distinction. In Far Cry 2 e.g. ARs went into the primary weapon slot while LMGs went into the heavy weapon slot.

Harrier - You're wrong.  No, seriously, that's my answer.  It may well be the single best gun in the game. 

Yes, the Harrier is alright until you run out of ammo.

PPR - Unlimited ammo, crazy powerful even at level I on a few builds, can't wait to get it leveled up so it works on more classes

I'm not sure what the PPR is but it is not an assault rifle. But it probably comes closer to one than the Falcon or Saber.

Typhoon - I'm personally still feeling this one out.  I didn't get it until post-nerf and have only played a handful of games with it so far. 

The Typhoon is a light machine gun and not an assault rilfe.

Seven different ARs, that are all used and liked by many players, and all serve a different purpose.

Sevent different random weapons, only one of them a real assault rifle. And that is the problem: BioWare uses the assault rifle category for random weapon design that don't fit into other categories.

There are only three real assault rifles in this game:
- Avenger (Common)
- Phaeston (Uncommon)
- Harrier (Ultra Rare)

What I would like to see is the proper rare assault rifle. Something like a Phaeston with more damage and the same weight.

Modifié par JustAnotherVanguard, 14 septembre 2012 - 08:15 .

[GroverA125]

We need the N7 Valkyrie, that's what we need.

If they were to do it properly (put it on par and compare with the harrier), we'd have a high damage 2-round burst assault rifle with limited ammo. (8 bursts per mag, not much spare ammo). All they have to do with the SP version is give it 100-125/125-150 damage per shot and we have an awesome burst-fire N7 weapon for multiplayer.

The basis for the Valkyrie is that it is literally a 2-round burst version of the harrier by concept, so making ti work like that shouldn't be difficult. Just up the damage and drop the weight. We already have a heavy assault rifle for the job, we don't need two.

Modifié par GroverA125, 14 septembre 2012 - 08:17 .

[zRz Tyr]

The mattock is not an assault rifle OR a sniper rifle. It is a Battle-Rifle. How can a revenant be a sniper rifle? It's a goddamn machine gun. The phaeston is also a light machine gun, if i remember correctly from the description.

[Ashen One]

Mattock is a sniper rifle without a scope?

Now I've heard it all....

Modifié par Ashen Earth, 14 septembre 2012 - 08:19 .

[darkpassenger2342]

this thread has become " how many redundant ways can we re-classify a rifle/gun/firearm/laser shooter/machine gun/sniper?"

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 14 septembre 2012 - 08:20 .

[Star fury]

Lord Rosario wrote...

Sorry.. when a pistol is comparable to a heavy single shot rifle and a sub machine gun is better than any full auto assault rifle, that is just bad.. Assault Rifles need more bang for their weight. Same goes for Snipers.

You'd think some of the heaviest weapons in the game would also be able to push out the most damage in the most efficient way possible.

Artistic integrity.

[zRz Tyr]

Star fury wrote...

Lord Rosario wrote...

Sorry.. when a pistol is comparable to a heavy single shot rifle and a sub machine gun is better than any full auto assault rifle, that is just bad.. Assault Rifles need more bang for their weight. Same goes for Snipers.

You'd think some of the heaviest weapons in the game would also be able to push out the most damage in the most efficient way possible.

Artistic integrity.

EXACTLY! Your peasant ways are unworthy the fine arts of Mass Effect!

[Ziegrif]

DESTRAUDO wrote...

zRz Tyr wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

pffft. assault rifles.
I NEED A GUDDAMN MINIGUN!!



A-10 mingun for multiplayer!

OOOO-YEA! ****S GONA GET REAL!

The A10 is probably one of the coolest vehicles ever built in the real world.  Every sci fi franchise should have an equivelant. 

Vehicle? i was on the impression we could put this thing on a krogans back or maybe an Elcor and call it a day. War won reapers dead. never can have enough dakkaaaa~

[Lord Rosario]

JustAnotherVanguard wrote...

Mass Effect does not have an AR problem. 

Yes, it does.

Falcon - One of the best utility guns in the game, penultimate Phantom control (GPS is ultimate), now lightweight for an AR, incredible for applying ammo powers.  One of the best guns in the game when filling its niche.

The Falcon is not an assault rifle, it is a granade launcher.

Saber (which you didn't list) - Love it on Batarians, Krogans and the Destroyer.  Headshot machine, sold damage per shot, works at any range from CQC to all the way across the map

The Saber is not an assault rifle, it is a sniper rifle without a scope.

Mattock - Not my cup of tea, but I have watched others do very well with it.

The Mattoch is not an assault rifle, it is a sniper rifle without a scope.

Revenant - See Mattock. 

The Revenant is not an assault rifle, it is a light machine gun. And I'm not making up that distinction. In Far Cry 2 e.g. ARs went into the primary weapon slot while LMGs went into the heavy weapon slot.

Harrier - You're wrong.  No, seriously, that's my answer.  It may well be the single best gun in the game. 

Yes, the Harrier is alright until you run out of ammo.

PPR - Unlimited ammo, crazy powerful even at level I on a few builds, can't wait to get it leveled up so it works on more classes

I'm not sure what the PPR is but it is not an assault rifle. But it probably comes closer to one than the Falcon or Saber.

Typhoon - I'm personally still feeling this one out.  I didn't get it until post-nerf and have only played a handful of games with it so far. 

The Typhoon is a light machine gun and not an assault rilfe.

Seven different ARs, that are all used and liked by many players, and all serve a different purpose.

Sevent different random weapons, only one of them a real assault rifle. And that is the problem: BioWare uses the assault rifle category for random weapon design that don't fit into other categories.

There are only three real assault rifles in this game:
- Avenger (Common)
- Phaeston (Uncommon)
- Harrier (Ultra Rare)

What I would like to see is the proper rare assault rifle. Something like a Phaeston with more damage and the same weight.

Harrier is a modified Mattock, therefore, if the Harrier is an assault rifle by your standards, so should be the Mattock. As for the three you call light machine guns, you'll find that in the Mass Effect universe, guns run on thermal clips and thanks to that some of the weapons would have a far higher copacity than a regular 'assault rifle,' though I'd agree that the Typhoon would probably be a light machine gun. The other two though, not so much. The Saber is highly customisable, so I'm sure one could make it fire at several different speed settings if they so pleased, which is something that is the norm for an assault rifle, not a sniper.

Anyhow, don't argue peoples wording when it's the category the game puts the guns in. That is what they are going off of, not the actual classification of the gun. The thread would just sound silly if they said that we need better assault rifles, scopeless snipers, and light machine guns...

[zRz Tyr]

The falcon is not an assault rifle? Well since it has a rifle shaped design and is propably excellent in assaults, perhaps you should reconsider your statements about it?

[Lord Rosario]

zRz Tyr wrote...

Star fury wrote...

Lord Rosario wrote...

Sorry.. when a pistol is comparable to a heavy single shot rifle and a sub machine gun is better than any full auto assault rifle, that is just bad.. Assault Rifles need more bang for their weight. Same goes for Snipers.

You'd think some of the heaviest weapons in the game would also be able to push out the most damage in the most efficient way possible.

Artistic integrity.

EXACTLY! Your peasant ways are unworthy the fine arts of Mass Effect!

Eh, think that's out the window. Guns from the future being less effective than those of present day? That's just rediculous. Artistic integrity is rather silly to be calling out on Mass Effect multiplayer.

[zRz Tyr]

Lord Rosario wrote...

zRz Tyr wrote...

Star fury wrote...

Lord Rosario wrote...

Sorry.. when a pistol is comparable to a heavy single shot rifle and a sub machine gun is better than any full auto assault rifle, that is just bad.. Assault Rifles need more bang for their weight. Same goes for Snipers.

You'd think some of the heaviest weapons in the game would also be able to push out the most damage in the most efficient way possible.

Artistic integrity.

EXACTLY! Your peasant ways are unworthy the fine arts of Mass Effect!

Eh, think that's out the window. Guns from the future being less effective than those of present day? That's just rediculous. Artistic integrity is rather silly to be calling out on Mass Effect multiplayer.

SHUT UP! They are whatching................

[Lord Rosario]

zRz Tyr wrote...

Lord Rosario wrote...

zRz Tyr wrote...

Star fury wrote...

Lord Rosario wrote...

Sorry.. when a pistol is comparable to a heavy single shot rifle and a sub machine gun is better than any full auto assault rifle, that is just bad.. Assault Rifles need more bang for their weight. Same goes for Snipers.

You'd think some of the heaviest weapons in the game would also be able to push out the most damage in the most efficient way possible.

Artistic integrity.

EXACTLY! Your peasant ways are unworthy the fine arts of Mass Effect!

Eh, think that's out the window. Guns from the future being less effective than those of present day? That's just rediculous. Artistic integrity is rather silly to be calling out on Mass Effect multiplayer.

SHUT UP! They are whatching................

How do you know I'm not secretly working for them to spy..? And you just told me to shut up.. in all caps.. with and exclaimation mark none the less. tsk tsk.

[zRz Tyr]

Also in the present day, we dont fight cyborg-machine monsters from outer SPEHSS, terminator-wannabes created by a race that apparently whines alot when they have a tummy ake. We do have factions of our own kind that is brainwashed believing they are doing things right.....

[zRz Tyr]

Lord Rosario wrote...

zRz Tyr wrote...

Lord Rosario wrote...

zRz Tyr wrote...

Star fury wrote...

Lord Rosario wrote...

Sorry.. when a pistol is comparable to a heavy single shot rifle and a sub machine gun is better than any full auto assault rifle, that is just bad.. Assault Rifles need more bang for their weight. Same goes for Snipers.

You'd think some of the heaviest weapons in the game would also be able to push out the most damage in the most efficient way possible.

Artistic integrity.

EXACTLY! Your peasant ways are unworthy the fine arts of Mass Effect!

Eh, think that's out the window. Guns from the future being less effective than those of present day? That's just rediculous. Artistic integrity is rather silly to be calling out on Mass Effect multiplayer.

SHUT UP! They are whatching................

How do you know I'm not secretly working for them to spy..? And you just told me to shut up.. in all caps.. with and exclaimation mark none the less. tsk tsk.

OHMYGODIDIDNTDOANYTHINGISWEAR!.... UGH!... i mean: Yes gooood you have passed your first test my child. Thou are worthy to join our ranks of ARTISTIC INEGRETEH!

[DarkseidXIII]

You're wrong. Shut up! Have outscored many a gold player with a mattock. Maybe you can press the button fast, but your aim sucks. Get better.

[FeralJester616]

zRz Tyr wrote...

The falcon is not an assault rifle? Well since it has a rifle shaped design and is propably excellent in assaults, perhaps you should reconsider your statements about it?

Just because it looks like a rifle, doesn't make it one.
The Falcon is a "launcher" by design and function.

[darkpassenger2342]

i thought we had moved passed over-classifying the rifles???
as lord rosario said, the game says they are rifles, so they are rifles.

the "class" of the gun in real world terms is irrelevant.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 14 septembre 2012 - 08:44 .

[zRz Tyr]

FeralJester616 wrote...

zRz Tyr wrote...

The falcon is not an assault rifle? Well since it has a rifle shaped design and is propably excellent in assaults, perhaps you should reconsider your statements about it?

Just because it looks like a rifle, doesn't make it one.
The Falcon is a "launcher" by design and function.

Just saying.

[Lord Rosario]

FeralJester616 wrote...

zRz Tyr wrote...

The falcon is not an assault rifle? Well since it has a rifle shaped design and is propably excellent in assaults, perhaps you should reconsider your statements about it?

Just because it looks like a rifle, doesn't make it one.
The Falcon is a "launcher" by design and function.

Fine.. Technically, the weapons in Mass Effect are not even firearms then. They do not fire bullets. They self propel chunks of metal carved from a block at high velocities and use thermal clips to keep the whole process from overheating the weapon.

On that note, the Falcon fires the same chunks of metal, only charged with some sort of space magic that allows it to explode on contact.

But seriously.. What do you want the title of this to be? "We need a better grenade launcher/scopeless sniper rifle/light machinegun/assault rifle!" That just rolls off the tongue and everyone would know exactly what the op is talking about!