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[KuroFye]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Because we're the master race.

I would've thought that was obvious.

[Torguemada]

DopedGoat84 wrote...

I've had an Xbox for 7 years now, cost me £119.99.

A good PC gaming desktop back then would have cost around £800+ - unfortunately for the PC players they will constantly have to upgrade their machine to keep up with games coming out.

Not really no, i have had the same rig for about 5 years now and havent yeat found a game i cant play.

[Epique Phael767]

Because they have enough money for a high-end gaming computer, and are therefore more able to purchase more pack with real money, so bioware makes nice with them.

Modifié par Epique Phael767, 14 septembre 2012 - 10:15 .

[Invader Nemesis]

BouncyFrag wrote...

Bioware feels sorry for them.

Lol

[ZiRK]

BetrayerOfNihil wrote...

That price tag has to try to make itself not look like a complete ****ing waste somehow. For around a thousand dollars, in addition to about a couple hundred every two or so years to keep it from going obsolete, you get all these little tiny pros and the ability to play with really pretty graphics. Then in a few years it slows/breaks down even with great care and know-how, like all electonics. Yeah, money well-spent. Even if I had a nice-paying job or won the lottery, I wouldn't put a single Penny into a building a gaming computer.

Please tell me youre trolling.

[Ernest Tse]

I got into the habit of using my index finger to awkwardly press down the A/X button for games that require a gas pedal running button.

This way my thumb is free to move the camera (but i have to use my middle finger to hit the shoulder button and triggers though).

I think this habit originated from playing Assassin's Creed where you often have to change the camera while running to make jumps properly.

[AlexMBrennan]

Please Bioware let us re-map our controls.

No. You bought a console because you wanted to have no control over your hardware, software or gaming experience. You got exactly what you wanted.

[Learn To Love Yourself]

Ernest Tse wrote...

I got into the habit of using my index finger to awkwardly press down the A/X button for games that require a gas pedal running button.

This way my thumb is free to move the camera (but i have to use my middle finger to hit the shoulder button and triggers though).

I think this habit originated from playing Assassin's Creed where you often have to change the camera while running to make jumps properly.

Even while using "the claw" grip, you still cannot turn the camera while running.  It is a bit annoying.  I got used to doing this playing COD and have always wished you could turn the camera while running in ME3 MP

[jakenou]

Derek Hollan wrote...

I like using my PC because there's nothing more satisfying than cranking up a monstrously, huge case that sounds like a Bell Jet Ranger's turbine kicking in and causing the paint on the back wall to peel.  At full juice, after the city kicks the secondary power grid in, I'm good to go and make a fool of myself in MP.

People think I'm compensating for something. *shrug*

Cheers

This actually reminds me of my first gen 60GB PS3 fatty, which I still have but never use for exactly the same reasons you describe above. When I run it, it pretty much sounds like a space shuttle launch... the entire time. At the time I got it ('06 I think?), I probably could have bought or built an entry level gaming PC for the same price too - i.e. an arm, a leg and a couple of fingers and toes.

Me being the PC player I am I might not be the right guy to ask but when I've tested on consoles I guess I just got used to the idea of turning with the left stick while holding A / X down.

Maybe not the answer you're looking for, but it's all I've got

As mentioned in another reply here, death claw grip works a little bit, but it has to be a long arching turn. The camera will catch up with you eventually this way, but an abrupt 90 degree turn will stop sprint mode no matter how good your death claw grip is. It's just built into the controller schematic sadly.

I do play on both PC and Xbox though, and I find a pretty level pro and con list for both. When I play on the PC for awhile, it's a nice break to go to Xbox and not have to quick glance for the right keys and I get to kick back in a much more comfortable position to play. Side rolling is also much easier with a controller vs keyboard for me - and that's actually a fairly decent technique to prep for a sharp turn, making up for the sprint cut at least a little bit.

On the other hand, when I switch over to PC from Xbox, I feel like all the controls have been set free, particularly with the mouse. Everything is a ton quicker and responsive, and adjustable. I actually set up a gamepad (Nostromo) I had lying around unused for a long time just for ME3 MP on the PC. I have all keyboard controls on that and the thumbstick set up for direction. It works like a charm (I barely have to key-glance at all with it now, and can side roll almost as well as on the Xbox). Tried configuring an Xbox controller for ME3 using Xpadder and some of the other controller mappers at first, and they all caused major lag since they have to run in the background and I couldn't get a good match on the Xbox controller layout with any of them. It's a shame, because you can see the Xbox controller mapping right in the files of the PC version of ME3, but there's the whole HUD problem messing it's usefulness all up.

Modifié par jkthunder, 14 septembre 2012 - 10:34 .

[LoboFH]

BioWare could fix easily, just remapping the sprint button to L1, I think is not used on multiplayer (it's the tactic pause on singleplayer if I am not wrong, I've played the XBox demo long time ago), but yeah, I am glad I am a member of the Master Race, Mass Effect 3 coop on console is like a slo mo version for Barbie dolls of the PC game.

Saint's Row The Third has this setup for sprinting and is delicious, I use my controller to play this game on my PC and works great.

Modifié par LoboFH, 14 septembre 2012 - 10:40 .

[AsheraII]

BetrayerOfNihil wrote...

That price tag has to try to make itself not look like a complete ****ing waste somehow. For around a thousand dollars, in addition to about a couple hundred every two or so years to keep it from going obsolete, you get all these little tiny pros and the ability to play with really pretty graphics. Then in a few years it slows/breaks down even with great care and know-how, like all electonics. Yeah, money well-spent. Even if I had a nice-paying job or won the lottery, I wouldn't put a single Penny into a building a gaming computer.

To that, I answer: It's entirely optional, but at least PC players CAN upgrade their machines to get better results. Buy a console, and you're stuck with whatever quality the hardware market was at a year before it released.
As a PC player you can still play all those games even after 5 years. Perhaps not at max settings, but still with results similar to what a 5 year old console would make out of them. And if you want to upgrade your old machine to the new specs, then that'll cost as little as the next generation of consoles would cost you.

No idea why people still buy consoles, really. The whole concept should've died with the Atari 2600.

[Ubergrog]

OP.


Because we are smart enough to use a mouse and keyboard.

/thread.

[Lord Chun]

It's that way so the games not too hard for the master race

[Yajuu Omoi]

BouncyFrag wrote...

Bioware feels sorry for them.

"Master Race my ****"

Lord Chun wrote...

It's that way so the games not too hard for the master race

 

They need a lot of help...but not the kind BioWare can give...they need a Woman (or Man) and a good plastic surgeon...

Modifié par Yajuu Omoi, 15 septembre 2012 - 12:05 .

[Chaoswind]

Not all of us are fat

[Bon3zz1001]

 L2 Claw and yes, that's a serious response. Use your thumb for the thumbstick obviously, your index finger for the buttons and middle for RB RT. 


Congrats. You can now use the AXYB without ever having to move your thumb. 

[Yajuu Omoi]

Bon3zz1001 wrote...

 L2 Claw and yes, that's a serious response. Use your thumb for the thumbstick obviously, your index finger for the buttons and middle for RB RT. 


Congrats. You can now use the AXYB and RB without ever having to move your thumb. 

SOMEONE WITH A BRAIN!! YES!!!! XD

Btw...I use this grip a lot...mostly for charge weapons though, so I can still use my right button power easily.
Took some getting used to, but it works wonders once you do.


Edit: Edited yours a little.

Modifié par Yajuu Omoi, 15 septembre 2012 - 12:16 .

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

Bon3zz1001 wrote...

 L2 Claw and yes, that's a serious response. Use your thumb for the thumbstick obviously, your index finger for the buttons and middle for RB RT. 


Congrats. You can now use the AXYB without ever having to move your thumb. 

I'm glad I use a mouse+Keyboard. 

I wouldn't want to break my hand or something 

[Yajuu Omoi]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

Bon3zz1001 wrote...

 L2 Claw and yes, that's a serious response. Use your thumb for the thumbstick obviously, your index finger for the buttons and middle for RB RT. 


Congrats. You can now use the AXYB without ever having to move your thumb. 

I'm glad I use a mouse+Keyboard. 

I wouldn't want to break my hand or something 

Dexterity, does WONDERS for your...uh...significant other... 
Controller = Fingers
Mouse and Keyboard = Wrists

Think about it.

Modifié par Yajuu Omoi, 15 septembre 2012 - 12:27 .

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

Yajuu Omoi wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

Bon3zz1001 wrote...

 L2 Claw and yes, that's a serious response. Use your thumb for the thumbstick obviously, your index finger for the buttons and middle for RB RT. 


Congrats. You can now use the AXYB without ever having to move your thumb. 

I'm glad I use a mouse+Keyboard. 

I wouldn't want to break my hand or something 

Dexterity, does WONDERS for your...uh...significant other... 

I don't use my thumb for this :innocent:.

[Yajuu Omoi]

Flies_by_Handles wrote...

Ernest Tse wrote...

I got into the habit of using my index finger to awkwardly press down the A/X button for games that require a gas pedal running button.

This way my thumb is free to move the camera (but i have to use my middle finger to hit the shoulder button and triggers though).

I think this habit originated from playing Assassin's Creed where you often have to change the camera while running to make jumps properly.

 This is incredibly awkward for many players to try to do, especially when the controller has two free buttons that can still be used: both the left and right analogue click-in buttons. Strange that the other devloper only chooses to post and brag a bit about his PC specs rather than address the issue console players have with sprinting.

Like I had said a moment ago, its unusual at first, but once you get used to it not only will you be more dextrous 
But you will be able to run circles (literally) around your teamates.

[heavyplay]

Ernest Tse wrote...

I got into the habit of using my index finger to awkwardly press down the A/X button for games that require a gas pedal running button.

This way my thumb is free to move the camera (but i have to use my middle finger to hit the shoulder button and triggers though).

I think this habit originated from playing Assassin's Creed where you often have to change the camera while running to make jumps properly.

Hah. I got that habit from the original Mario Kart on the SNES. I had to keep my thumb on the accelerator and curl my index finger around to shoot items.

[thegamefreek78648]

Torguemada wrote...

DopedGoat84 wrote...

I've had an Xbox for 7 years now, cost me £119.99.

A good PC gaming desktop back then would have cost around £800+ - unfortunately for the PC players they will constantly have to upgrade their machine to keep up with games coming out.

Not really no, i have had the same rig for about 5 years now and havent yeat found a game i cant play.

Ive had mine for a few years, only replaced my previous one cause it was a low end system i bought to hold me over till i could get a better computer put together.

Tyipicaly I will upgrade, better graphics card, better/more ram, secondary hard drive and spend $50 bucks.

By the way, how much does it cost to replace a console when one minor part goes out, like the graphics card?  The hard drive?  Or even the CD tray?