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[slimgrin]

I guess I won't be donating since it's Steam exclusive. Developers need to stop doing this.

[RinuCZ]

Actually, Jozape, Ouya project was about helping to get the console on the market, not about kickstarting a development. Just saying.

[Jozape]

slimgrin wrote...

I guess I won't be donating since it's Steam exclusive. Developers need to stop doing this.

I'd be surprised if they don't release a DRM free version. Steam is just the only definite atm, is the impression I got.

RinuCZ wrote...

Actually, Jozape, Ouya project was about helping to get the console on the market, not about kickstarting a development. Just saying.

 

I admittedly didn't look at it too much, as consoles aren't my thing. It's still weird seeing any console with such a low funding goal for any stage at all.

Modifié par Jozape, 14 septembre 2012 - 11:02 .

[RinuCZ]

slimgrin wrote...

I guess I won't be donating since it's Steam exclusive. Developers need to stop doing this.

Many, many people have asked for DRM-free copy, me included. A hour or so after a launch, Obsidian wrote in Questions section that they're looking into other distribution options. I understand your stance, I was torn about it too & still hope they'll add it.

Modifié par RinuCZ, 14 septembre 2012 - 11:05 .

[kirvingtwo]

This is a game with soul. "So there are a few things—we want the player to be able to build their own character, and we want the player to be able to evolve and grow. And this growth wouldn't be limited to the first game, but would continue into subsequent titles as well. The story and world is built around the concept of magic and power tied to a character's soul, and the player's soul and the souls of his companions are... special."

I've just quoted this from the Kotaku article and I'm feeling confused regarding character creation and customisation. I won't fund a Kickstarter rpg with character creation that doesn't allow choice of gender. I wish they would clarify this on the Kickstarter page as I can't get the Obsidian forums to load to see if choice of gender has been raised.
Does anyone know the answer, please?

Modifié par kirvingtwo, 14 septembre 2012 - 11:02 .

[Leinadi]

There is no definitive answer at the moment but I would be very, very surprised if they didn't include a female gender option.

[MerinTB]

slimgrin wrote...

I guess I won't be donating since it's Steam exclusive. Developers need to stop doing this.

It won't stay just Steam.  They'll learn.  Kickstarter corrects PC game developers.  It's be Mac-OS compatible and, I almost guarantee it, Linux compatible in the end as well.

Plus, at $65, you get a physical boxed copy.

Modifié par MerinTB, 14 septembre 2012 - 11:05 .

[Gatt9]

Jozape wrote...

I find it funny that this has a higher funding goal than OUYA, which is supposed to be a game console.

Of course, Project Eternity won't get as much money as OUYA. But it's hard to imagine a game console requiring less funds than an RPG with a mid-sized team.

You have to remember though,  the Ouya is basically a android based smartphone with a controller.  It's using cheap plentiful parts that aren't terribly powerful.  I think people's expectations for the Ouya are unrealistically high,  I don't think people realize that it isn't "Next gen" console equivalent nor is it PC equivalent.

That said,  I think the Ouya is a good sign to the Industry that they need to change directions,  and it's my hope that this Kickstarter reaffirms that.

Also...Pledged!

[Jozape]

If you're worried about the DRM, you can cancel your pledge before the project ends if there is no option for DRM free. If a mass of people do it, that'll be a nice incentive for them to include a DRM free option next time, at least.

Modifié par Jozape, 14 septembre 2012 - 11:10 .

[Korusus]

Meh, Steam is not what it used to be. I used to hate it, now I love it. It's convenient and they support modders and indie projects like this one. It's convenient for developers as well as a tool to get content to the players. In 2004 I would have agreed about Steam being a problem, but not anymore.

[kirvingtwo]

Leinadi wrote...

There is no definitive answer at the moment but I would be very, very surprised if they didn't include a female gender option.

I hope so.  I'm not prepared to make the assumption though and just back it.  Wasteland 2 and Dead State were both clear on choice of gender in character creation from the beginning of those projects.  Deciding to back those projects became easy because they provided lots of information.

[Cimeas]

Hmm, I don't know about the isometric-only camera. Why not just make it like NWN2 where you could choose? I don't understand why they would go backwards. I like to play RPGs from a zoomed out 3rd person perspective (MMO-style).

[Jozape]

kirvingtwo wrote...

Leinadi wrote...

There is no definitive answer at the moment but I would be very, very surprised if they didn't include a female gender option.

I hope so.  I'm not prepared to make the assumption though and just back it.  Wasteland 2 and Dead State were both clear on choice of gender in character creation from the beginning of those projects.  Deciding to back those projects became easy because they provided lots of information.

You can always throw them a question on twitter if you have one, and it doesn't take long to make one if you don't have one. @ChrisAvellone @Obsidian @jesawyer

Of course, I'm sure they're getting a ridiculous amount of spam right now, so I wouldn't expect an answer right away.

[RinuCZ]

Jozape wrote...
I admittedly didn't look at it too much, as consoles aren't my thing. It's still weird seeing any console with such a low funding goal for any stage at all.

No biggie . I'm not particulary knowledgeable about Ouya too, I just felt it's better to state here how things are, so others won't be confused.

MerinTB wrote...
It won't stay just Steam.  They'll learn.  Kickstarter corrects PC game developers.  It's be Mac-OS compatible and, I almost guarantee it, Linux compatible in the end as well.
...

Previous successful projects certainly ended that way. Even Republique, originally a game exclusively for iPhone/iPad, managed to integrate DRM-free PC support.

[Korusus]

Cimeas wrote...

Hmm, I don't know about the isometric-only camera. Why not just make it like NWN2 where you could choose? I don't understand why they would go backwards. I like to play RPGs from a zoomed out 3rd person perspective (MMO-style).

I cannot disagree hard enough about isometric-only being a step backwards.  Secondly, NWN2 was fully 3D, Project: Eternity will be 2D Isometric, or at least "2D Isometric"-like.  Apples to Oranges.

[Leinadi]

Cimeas wrote...

Hmm, I don't know about the isometric-only camera. Why not just make it like NWN2 where you could choose? I don't understand why they would go backwards. I like to play RPGs from a zoomed out 3rd person perspective (MMO-style).

Probably a few different reasons. Aside from this really seemingly being somewhat of a "tribute" to the older style of games, locking your camera down like that saves you the trouble of having to provide support for complete camera control. I tend to enjoy "free cameras" as well but they draw with them a lot of extra work. Cameras are hard to do well and the more you free it up, the more you invite additional problems, more QA for it, and more complaining from people.

Also, I think it's easier from an art standpoint as well because you can focus more of your visual design since you won't be able to view an object from each possible camera angle, you can concentrate on making something look good from whatever perspective you're going for.

[Morroian]

Cimeas wrote...

Hmm, I don't know about the isometric-only camera. Why not just make it like NWN2 where you could choose? I don't understand why they would go backwards.

Maybe because its a kickstarter project and therefore funding is kind of limited.

[twincast]

kirvingtwo wrote...

This is a game with soul. "So there are a few things—we want the player to be able to build their own character, and we want the player to be able to evolve and grow. And this growth wouldn't be limited to the first game, but would continue into subsequent titles as well. The story and world is built around the concept of magic and power tied to a character's soul, and the player's soul and the souls of his companions are... special."

I've just quoted this from the Kotaku article and I'm feeling confused regarding character creation and customisation. I won't fund a Kickstarter rpg with character creation that doesn't allow choice of gender. I wish they would clarify this on the Kickstarter page as I can't get the Obsidian forums to load to see if choice of gender has been raised.
Does anyone know the answer, please?

Well, I understand the concern, but getting hung up on an innocent pronoun is just being pedantic and paranoid, especially given a team of developers that has always offered a female option in character creation (aside from Alpha Protocol, but that was more of a set protagonist akin to DE:HR and The Witcher (2)).

[Nameless one7]

Is anyone else having problems with the Project Eternity Forums.

[Leinadi]

They're not working at the moment.

[twincast]

Nameless one7 wrote...

Is anyone else having problems with the Project Eternity Forums.

That's to be expected, which is why frankly I won't even be trying until Sunday or so.

[pianomaestra]

kirvingtwo wrote...

Leinadi wrote...

There is no definitive answer at the moment but I would be very, very surprised if they didn't include a female gender option.

I hope so.  I'm not prepared to make the assumption though and just back it.  Wasteland 2 and Dead State were both clear on choice of gender in character creation from the beginning of those projects.  Deciding to back those projects became easy because they provided lots of information.

If it helps, the kickstarter page had this:

You’ll create your own character and collect
companions along the way – taking him or her not just through this story, but,
with your continued support, through future adventures.

So I'd assume yes on gender options?

Anyways, super excited for this.

Modifié par pianomaestra, 14 septembre 2012 - 11:51 .

[Skyhawk02]

slimgrin wrote...

More info would have been nice since they're asking for money. As it is, seems like another standard fantasy game, and we have enough of those. I say that with only an hour of Alpha Protocol beneath my belt though, so I can't really comment on Obsidian's writing or game mechanics.

Well, some of the people involved made games like Planescape: Torment and Arcanum, neither of which could be called "standard fantasy" so if that's what you're worried about you needn't be, I suspect this will be a very unique experience.

Plus it's gonna be isometric which will be different then modern games like Skyrim and Dragon Age.

[Nerdage]

A fine time for me to have no money... Damn rent. 

Once I get my hands on some it's absolutely going to Obsidian though; so happy!