I use adrenaline rush to use double-shot widow... is that a cheat now, OP?
Is reload cancelling a form of cheating?
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Testosticore
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#28
Posté 14 septembre 2012 - 06:17
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lol, not cheating, but I wonder how the people who balance the game take that into account since not everyone wants to do reload cancel...
#29
Posté 14 septembre 2012 - 06:17
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No its not cheating its a game mechanic please shut up
#30
Posté 14 septembre 2012 - 06:34
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I don't care if it's a design feature or not. It breaks lore. 
Edit: Alright, the initial wording of the title and the OP were intentional. I wanted to see how much argument I'd get before I clarified. But the thread died faster than I wanted it to.
Here goes.
First, just because the devs say it's okay doesn't make it a cheat. Assassination may be sanctioned murder, but it's still murder.
Second, a weapon is not condition one until the charging handle/slide has been racked. Slapping a mag in a fire-arm and pulling the trigger is about as useful as trying to kill someone with a watergun. Unless you're that dude from Dead Rising. Then it's less effective.
Third, game mechanics like that suck. I can and do reload cancel, because it's required for maximum dps output, but I shouldn't have to. This particular sentiment has nothing to do with it being cheating, but there you have it. It frustrates me to no end that shortcuts like that are required to compete. The name itself frustrates me. You're not canceling your reload. If you were, there'd be no ammo to fire. You're just shortening it. It's reload shortening, not canceling.
Edit: Alright, the initial wording of the title and the OP were intentional. I wanted to see how much argument I'd get before I clarified. But the thread died faster than I wanted it to.
Here goes.
First, just because the devs say it's okay doesn't make it a cheat. Assassination may be sanctioned murder, but it's still murder.
Second, a weapon is not condition one until the charging handle/slide has been racked. Slapping a mag in a fire-arm and pulling the trigger is about as useful as trying to kill someone with a watergun. Unless you're that dude from Dead Rising. Then it's less effective.
Third, game mechanics like that suck. I can and do reload cancel, because it's required for maximum dps output, but I shouldn't have to. This particular sentiment has nothing to do with it being cheating, but there you have it. It frustrates me to no end that shortcuts like that are required to compete. The name itself frustrates me. You're not canceling your reload. If you were, there'd be no ammo to fire. You're just shortening it. It's reload shortening, not canceling.
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#31
Posté 14 septembre 2012 - 06:38
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JohnShades wrote...
No,as recently stated by Bryan Johnson, it is a feature of the game.
JohnShades wrote...
No,as recently stated by Bryan Johnson, it is a feature of the game.
JohnShades wrote...
No,as recently stated by Bryan Johnson, it is a feature of the game.
JohnShades wrote...
No,as recently stated by Bryan Johnson, it is a feature of the game.
#32
Posté 14 septembre 2012 - 06:38
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In a game with an ending that breaks the entire aspect of a game that being choice lore doesnt matter too much anymore the credibility this series once had is gone
#33
Posté 14 septembre 2012 - 06:42
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Need a tissue?jpraelster93 wrote...
In a game with an ending that breaks the entire aspect of a game that being choice lore doesnt matter too much anymore the credibility this series once had is gone
#34
Posté 14 septembre 2012 - 06:43
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NucularPikinic wrote...
JohnShades wrote...
No,as recently stated by Bryan Johnson, it is a feature of the game.JohnShades wrote...
No,as recently stated by Bryan Johnson, it is a feature of the game.JohnShades wrote...
No,as recently stated by Bryan Johnson, it is a feature of the game.JohnShades wrote...
No,as recently stated by Bryan Johnson, it is a feature of the game.
Yeah, well, so is shield gate. That's cheating too.
#35
Posté 14 septembre 2012 - 06:45
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No, it isn't.Testosticore wrote...
NucularPikinic wrote...
JohnShades wrote...
No,as recently stated by Bryan Johnson, it is a feature of the game.JohnShades wrote...
No,as recently stated by Bryan Johnson, it is a feature of the game.JohnShades wrote...
No,as recently stated by Bryan Johnson, it is a feature of the game.JohnShades wrote...
No,as recently stated by Bryan Johnson, it is a feature of the game.
Yeah, well, so is shield gate. That's cheating too.
#36
Posté 14 septembre 2012 - 06:45
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upinya slayin wrote...
no. its a skill that improves your killing ability. PC gamers have an advatage though by using the medigel key to reload cancel. I wish i could do that on my 360
If it helps any, sometimes it bites us (me?) in the ass as enemies just loooove to finish me off during a reload cancel. And I pop back up one medi-gel poorer surrounded by teammates confused at my wastefulness.
#37
Posté 14 septembre 2012 - 06:47
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Good god you're stupid.Testosticore wrote...
NucularPikinic wrote...
JohnShades wrote...
No,as recently stated by Bryan Johnson, it is a feature of the game.JohnShades wrote...
No,as recently stated by Bryan Johnson, it is a feature of the game.JohnShades wrote...
No,as recently stated by Bryan Johnson, it is a feature of the game.JohnShades wrote...
No,as recently stated by Bryan Johnson, it is a feature of the game.
Yeah, well, so is shield gate. That's cheating too.
#38
Posté 14 septembre 2012 - 06:48
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Testosticore wrote...
I don't care if it's a design feature or not. It breaks lore.
Edit: Alright, the initial wording of the title and the OP were intentional. I wanted to see how much argument I'd get before I clarified. But the thread died faster than I wanted it to.
Here goes.
First, just because the devs say it's okay doesn't make it a cheat. Assassination may be sanctioned murder, but it's still murder.
Second, a weapon is not condition one until the charging handle/slide has been racked. Slapping a mag in a fire-arm and pulling the trigger is about as useful as trying to kill someone with a watergun. Unless you're that dude from Dead Rising. Then it's less effective.
Third, game mechanics like that suck. I can and do reload cancel, because it's required for maximum dps output, but I shouldn't have to. This particular sentiment has nothing to do with it being cheating, but there you have it. It frustrates me to no end that shortcuts like that are required to compete. The name itself frustrates me. You're not canceling your reload. If you were, there'd be no ammo to fire. You're just shortening it. It's reload shortening, not canceling.
How does it break the law, if you have already ejected the clip out?
#39
Posté 14 septembre 2012 - 06:48
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^^^^ Shield gate negates effective sniping with high powered rifles. The enemies are teh haxxors.
^^^ Happens to me, too. I just still dislike the fact that it exists.
^^^ Happens to me, too. I just still dislike the fact that it exists.
Modifié par Testosticore, 14 septembre 2012 - 06:49 .
#40
Posté 14 septembre 2012 - 06:50
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Arppis wrote...
Testosticore wrote...
I don't care if it's a design feature or not. It breaks lore.
Edit: Alright, the initial wording of the title and the OP were intentional. I wanted to see how much argument I'd get before I clarified. But the thread died faster than I wanted it to.
Here goes.
First, just because the devs say it's okay doesn't make it a cheat. Assassination may be sanctioned murder, but it's still murder.
Second, a weapon is not condition one until the charging handle/slide has been racked. Slapping a mag in a fire-arm and pulling the trigger is about as useful as trying to kill someone with a watergun. Unless you're that dude from Dead Rising. Then it's less effective.
Third, game mechanics like that suck. I can and do reload cancel, because it's required for maximum dps output, but I shouldn't have to. This particular sentiment has nothing to do with it being cheating, but there you have it. It frustrates me to no end that shortcuts like that are required to compete. The name itself frustrates me. You're not canceling your reload. If you were, there'd be no ammo to fire. You're just shortening it. It's reload shortening, not canceling.
How does it break the law, if you have already ejected the clip out?
A weapon with an ejected mag is empty. I'm not sure I understand what you're asking.
Reload cancel would be an awesome feature if you could only do it with a round still in the chamber. That's legit.
#41
Posté 14 septembre 2012 - 06:52
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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...
Flamebait, unsuccessfull. Try harder, or better yet, crawl back under your bridge.
Good day sir.
#42
Posté 14 septembre 2012 - 06:54
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Reload cancelling follows lore because space magic.
You never question space magic.
You never question space magic.
#43
Posté 14 septembre 2012 - 06:56
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Confirmed by the devs that it was intentionally put in.
Here is the best charcter to do reload cancel in-game: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/14008988
Here is the best charcter to do reload cancel in-game: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/14008988
#44
Posté 14 septembre 2012 - 06:57
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JohnShades wrote...
No,as recently stated by Bryan Johnson, it is a feature of the game.
At Game Academy we used to have this joke where we would say "it's not a bug, it's a feature!" whenever someone encountered one in a game we created.
I never thought I would see professionals use it.
#45
Posté 14 septembre 2012 - 06:57
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Anyone have a single argument as to why it's an acceptable practice outside of "the devs said it's an intentional mechanic"?
Edit: "You're stupid" is not and never will be a viable argument. Nor is it constructive. Nor is it accurate. It's a form of cheating in it's own right.
Cheating, believe it or not boys and girls, has very little to do with rules.
Edit: "You're stupid" is not and never will be a viable argument. Nor is it constructive. Nor is it accurate. It's a form of cheating in it's own right.
Cheating, believe it or not boys and girls, has very little to do with rules.
Modifié par Testosticore, 14 septembre 2012 - 07:00 .
#46
Posté 14 septembre 2012 - 06:59
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Testosticore wrote...
Yes.
no.
it was brought in back in ME2 for those who are skilled. The Dev already answered this. why bring it up now......
#47
Posté 14 septembre 2012 - 07:01
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^ See above
Edit:
As I said, if you could only do it with a round still in the chamber it would be an awesome detail and very realistic. In the real world this is called a tactical reload.
Space magic racking a slide or yanking a charging handle or pump cycling a round all space magicy is not cool.
Edit:
As I said, if you could only do it with a round still in the chamber it would be an awesome detail and very realistic. In the real world this is called a tactical reload.
Space magic racking a slide or yanking a charging handle or pump cycling a round all space magicy is not cool.
Modifié par Testosticore, 14 septembre 2012 - 07:03 .
#48
Posté 14 septembre 2012 - 07:01
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What on earth are you smoking? I want some of that stuff too.Testosticore wrote...
Anyone have a single argument as to why it's an acceptable practice outside of "the devs said it's an intentional mechanic"?
#50
Posté 14 septembre 2012 - 07:03
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a jaded hater 13 wrote...
Good god you're stupid.Testosticore wrote...
NucularPikinic wrote...
JohnShades wrote...
No,as recently stated by Bryan Johnson, it is a feature of the game.JohnShades wrote...
No,as recently stated by Bryan Johnson, it is a feature of the game.JohnShades wrote...
No,as recently stated by Bryan Johnson, it is a feature of the game.JohnShades wrote...
No,as recently stated by Bryan Johnson, it is a feature of the game.
Yeah, well, so is shield gate. That's cheating too.
