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[Henioo]

tl;dr

But as per similarities, I could say ME1 is a ripoff of Dragon Age: Origins. You know, you get through your first mission and you end up with two followers; you become a memeber of important order; you go to three place; you confront the bad guy.

[eddieoctane]

DuffyMJ wrote...

Western Civ. loves retelling stories celebrating individuality standing against the forces of the universe/evil, self-sacrifice, and salvation for all humanity. It might be a little repetitive, but its the reason our society has firemen and police that run into burning buildings, ladies who work 3 jobs to feed their family, and so on.

Except the stories that cultures have held as sacrosanct usually involve the sacrifice of the hero resulting in the survivors benefiting in a way more than mere survival. Arthur's death doesn't result in Camelot imploding. Shepard's demise resulted in the total downfall of civilization before the EC. Huge difference there.

[Twinzam.V]

 So Mass Effect 3 = Star Control 3. 

[chasemme]

I still liked Avatar.

[Baa Baa]

Dubozz wrote...

 Played Starcon 1 back in the days, great game. Never got my hands on SC2 though. So i opened Starcon wikia...

The Syreen are a sexy race of Amazonian women. They have no males to breed with. Perhaps you can help them out with that.


A long extinct race that left behind various artifacts and devices, the Precursors must have been incredibly advanced technologically. It is popularly believed that they became so advanced they "transcended to a higher plane". The Precursors left behind many clues to where they went. The height of Precursor culture seems to have been approximately 250,000 Earth years ago.1 Despite their widespread presence, it appears that the Precursors vanished from the galactic scene quite suddenly, leaving no indication as to why


The Thraddash look like bipedal, plated, hornless rhinoceroses, with strong muscled arms, a thick, tough skin and a mean temper. The Thraddash talk tough and act even tougher, usually smoking cigars in their cockpits. They have little or no respect for anything aside from force, which they admire greatly. 
Thraddash history has witnessed the rise and fall of 18 different planetary cultures. Each time their culture reached a certain point a new ideology for a more perfect culture arrived, and they fought a bitter war eventually blasting themselves back usually 500 years in development, and started a new culture from scratch. 

:wizard:

I don't know whether to laugh, or

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

OMG this is funny. I didn't find the story particularly original to begin with. None of them really are. It's just a matter of how the story is told. But to blatantly rip of the Deus Ex HR ending and just assign colors to it?

And the way they led up to it didn't make sense either. It's like ... oh look, I shouldn't have spent all that time playing other peoples games and stuff, and I really didn't want to write the ending, oh god I didn't, please is there any way, I just can't get this out of my head. Monitor colors. Red Green and Blue and a child. And explosions. There that does it. Done. That'll keep them guessing. Prozac, Mac. Prozac.

Mass Effect 3 is not canon.

We shall treat it like Star Control 3...

I'm starting to come up with a new theory.... I'm calling it "Bus Theory". It's essentially Elephant Theory but bigger.

It's how we have Mass Effect 4. We throw "Arrival" and the entire Mass Effect 3 story under the bus. Reapers are stranded in dark space for all eternity at the end of ME2 (set destruction of the Collector Base as canon). No save game import. New game stars Shepard, Anderson, Liara, Garrus, Tali, Kaiden/Ashley, Miranda, Zaeed, Kasumi, and Legion, and some guy that looks like Alexander Skarsgard (True Blood) as a vanguard and LI for femShep.

Story begins shortly after the end of ME2.

ME4 Opening Scene: a mysterious major fire breaks out in the the Citadel. Smoke pours out of the keeper tunnels. Shepard leads a team of tech experts (gee who are tech experts -- Kasumi and Tali) in to investigate along with a crew of firemen and Capt Bailey and C-sec, and find it leads to a large computer structure which is burning out of control. They hear a child's voice screaming in agony from inside of the structure, but there is no way to get to it, and they have to evacuate. Shepard closes the hatch on the tunnel in the nick of time because the computer explodes outward into space. All access tunnels to the area immediately seal. The explosion was so thorough that recovery for salvage was impossible. This ends the existance of the Catalyst AI forever. Strangely, no critical Citadel systems went down. No one will ever know what purpose that computer system served. Batarian terrorists are being blamed, however. Bailey thinks this is bull**** and a cover up for something. Security footage shows Keeper 20 leaving the area shortly after the fire started.

Thus ME3 and the Reapers have now been been thrown completely under the bus. Shepard's task? Toppling a regime -- The Batarian Hegemony. The goal is to assist the Batarian rebels in overthrowing the Hegemony. Shepard finds out exactly why there are so many Batarians living outside the Hegemony. Now for a Colonist/Ruthless Shepard this is not going to be an easy one to role play.

[Twinzam.V]

Baa Baa wrote...

Dubozz wrote...

 *snip

I don't know whether to laugh, or

You're the lucky one. Each time i come here to take a peak, in some posts i feel a little bit more dead inside since i have no more tears to cry.
 (my emotionless face)

Modifié par Twinzam.V, 15 septembre 2012 - 08:32 .

[Dendio1]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Well **** Robert.

I'd pass this off as a coincidence but the Synthesis ending looks like the ending to Transformers Beast Wars so at this point I'm not ruling anything out.

ok the beast wars reference made me chuckle

[Dendio1]

Also nothing under the sun is new.

[Baa Baa]

Twinzam.V wrote...

Baa Baa wrote...

Dubozz wrote...

 *snip

I don't know whether to laugh, or

You're the lucky one. Each time i come here to take a peak, in some posts i feel a little bit more dead inside since i have no more tears to cry.
 (my emotionless face)

I don't know if I'd call myself lucky. I was pretty much the same way for the months following the original ending.
Now I'm just pretty over it, I like to look back and laugh at all the stupid **** I use to think was incredible.

[eddieoctane]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...


I'm starting to come up with a new theory.... I'm calling it "Bus Theory". It's essentially Elephant Theory but bigger.

It's how we have Mass Effect 4. We throw "Arrival" and the entire Mass Effect 3 story under the bus. Reapers are stranded in dark space for all eternity at the end of ME2 (set destruction of the Collector Base as canon). No save game import. New game stars Shepard, Anderson, Liara, Garrus, Tali, Kaiden/Ashley, Miranda, Zaeed, Kasumi, and Legion, and some guy that looks like Alexander Skarsgard (True Blood) as a vanguard and LI for femShep.

Story begins shortly after the end of ME2.

ME4 Opening Scene: a mysterious major fire breaks out in the the Citadel. Smoke pours out of the keeper tunnels. Shepard leads a team of tech experts (gee who are tech experts -- Kasumi and Tali) in to investigate along with a crew of firemen and Capt Bailey and C-sec, and find it leads to a large computer structure which is burning out of control. They hear a child's voice screaming in agony from inside of the structure, but there is no way to get to it, and they have to evacuate. Shepard closes the hatch on the tunnel in the nick of time because the computer explodes outward into space. All access tunnels to the area immediately seal. The explosion was so thorough that recovery for salvage was impossible. This ends the existance of the Catalyst AI forever. Strangely, no critical Citadel systems went down. No one will ever know what purpose that computer system served. Batarian terrorists are being blamed, however. Bailey thinks this is bull**** and a cover up for something. Security footage shows Keeper 20 leaving the area shortly after the fire started.

Thus ME3 and the Reapers have now been been thrown completely under the bus. Shepard's task? Toppling a regime -- The Batarian Hegemony. The goal is to assist the Batarian rebels in overthrowing the Hegemony. Shepard finds out exactly why there are so many Batarians living outside the Hegemony. Now for a Colonist/Ruthless Shepard this is not going to be an easy one to role play.

Not so much a  theory an excellent suggestion to the plot of ME4. I'd still be GameFlying it, though. No more money for EA from me.

[Blueprotoss]

AresKeith wrote...

its ok to take inspiration from it, but its not ok to completely copy & paste it *cough* Deus Ex endings *cough*

To be fair Deus Ex didn't come up with those "endings" in the 1st place and Deus Ex is far from complete originallity as well.

AresKeith wrote...

Mass Effect still needed Liam Neeson and Nolan North as VAs

I can't disagree.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 15 septembre 2012 - 08:46 .

[Blueprotoss]

ZIPO396 wrote...

Jack is likely a reference to the character in Pitch Black.

You could say that about Riddick and you could also use Jack from the Chronicles of Riddick.

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Well, the ME team wouldn't last long at a University that's for sure...LOL

The Doctors would disagree. 

HYR 2.0 wrote...

Lesson learned: if you look hard enough, you can find coincidences.

Also, few things are truly original anymore.

This is very true even when we're talking about Star Wars and Star Trek. 

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 15 septembre 2012 - 08:54 .

[Baa Baa]

Blueprotoss wrote...

ZIPO396 wrote...

Jack is likely a reference to the character in Pitch Black.

You could say that about Riddick and you could also use Jack from the Chronicles of Riddick.

Jack is in Pitch Black as well.
She wanted to be just like Riddick IIRC

[Eterna]

There is no such thing as a completely new and original plot anymore. Everything has been done, you can take any story from books, games and movies and eventually find another story that is incredibly similar to it.

Modifié par Eterna5, 15 septembre 2012 - 08:50 .

[Baa Baa]

Believe it or not, some things actually aren't coincidence.

Modifié par Baa Baa, 15 septembre 2012 - 08:50 .

[AresKeith]

Blueprotoss wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

its ok to take inspiration from it, but its not ok to completely copy & paste it *cough* Deus Ex endings *cough*

To be fair Deus Ex didn't come up with those "endings" in the 1st place and Deus Ex is far from complete originallity as well.

Deus Ex did what they did to make fun of the term DEM, and what other video game did it?

[Conniving_Eagle]

Baa Baa wrote...

Believe it or not, some things actually aren't coincidence.

I don't think this is coincidence.

[Blueprotoss]

Baa Baa wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

ZIPO396 wrote...

Jack is likely a reference to the character in Pitch Black.

You could say that about Riddick and you could also use Jack from the Chronicles of Riddick.

Jack is in Pitch Black as well.
She wanted to be just like Riddick IIRC

I know but she was almost a female Riddick in Chronicles.

[Eterna]

Baa Baa wrote...

Believe it or not, some things actually aren't coincidence.

And so what if they aren't? The Characters, Universe and themes make Mass Effect it's own story, it doesn't matter if they got inspiration from other sources, all stories do that.

Does SC3 have Samara in it? How about legion? Medi-gel? If not then shush, all stories are based on borrowed ideas from other sources, it'a the characters and smaller details that make it it's own story.

Modifié par Eterna5, 15 septembre 2012 - 08:58 .

[Blueprotoss]

AresKeith wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

its ok to take inspiration from it, but its not ok to completely copy & paste it *cough* Deus Ex endings *cough*

To be fair Deus Ex didn't come up with those "endings" in the 1st place and Deus Ex is far from complete originallity as well.

Deus Ex did what they did to make fun of the term DEM, and what other video game did it?

The Matrix, Robocop, and Blade Runner are simialr to Deus Ex as a whole, which it heavily borrows from all 3.

[o Ventus]

Blueprotoss wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

its ok to take inspiration from it, but its not ok to completely copy & paste it *cough* Deus Ex endings *cough*

To be fair Deus Ex didn't come up with those "endings" in the 1st place and Deus Ex is far from complete originallity as well.

Deus Ex did what they did to make fun of the term DEM, and what other video game did it?

The Matrix, Robocop, and Blade Runner are simialr to Deus Ex as a whole, which it heavily borrows from all 3.

The Matrix, Blade Runner, and RoboCop also aren't video game franchises, which AresKeith asked.

[Blueprotoss]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Baa Baa wrote...

Believe it or not, some things actually aren't coincidence.

I don't think this is coincidence.

Yet it is just like Deus Ex wasn't the 1st especially when DE: HR came out in 2011.

[Baa Baa]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Baa Baa wrote...

Believe it or not, some things actually aren't coincidence.

I don't think this is coincidence.

I like how that dialogue actually makes the Catalyst sound evil. Makes it that little 1 percent better. Plus the DX music sounds cooler.
But seriously anyone who doesn't realize how badly BW ripped off Deus Ex must be blind. It's truly incredible how well that dialogue matches with ME3.

[Baa Baa]

Blueprotoss wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Baa Baa wrote...

Believe it or not, some things actually aren't coincidence.

I don't think this is coincidence.

Yet it is just like Deus Ex wasn't the 1st especially when DE: HR came out in 2011.

.....What:huh:?