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[Blueprotoss]

o Ventus wrote...

The Matrix, Blade Runner, and RoboCop also aren't video game franchises, which AresKeith asked.

Yet he never specified it was to be game related even when the Matrix and Robocop have a good amount of video games.  Sci-fi is sci-fi whether its a movie, tv show, comic, novel, or video game.

[Baa Baa]

Eterna5 wrote...

Baa Baa wrote...

Believe it or not, some things actually aren't coincidence.

And so what if they aren't? The Characters, Universe and themes make Mass Effect it's own story, it doesn't matter if they got inspiration from other sources, all stories do that.

Does SC3 have Samara in it? How about legion? Medi-gel? If not then shush, all stories are based on borrowed ideas from other sources, it'a the characters and smaller details that make it it's own story.

This crosses the line between inspiration and total rip off.

[Twinzam.V]

Baa Baa wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Baa Baa wrote...

Believe it or not, some things actually aren't coincidence.

I don't think this is coincidence.

Yet it is just like Deus Ex wasn't the 1st especially when DE: HR came out in 2011.

.....What:huh:?

I think you switched the names....  DE: HR wasn't the 1st since DE came out in 2000. 

Modifié par Twinzam.V, 15 septembre 2012 - 09:07 .

[Blueprotoss]

Baa Baa wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

Yet it is just like Deus Ex wasn't the 1st especially when DE: HR came out in 2011.

.....What:huh:?

The Matrix, Robocop, Blade Runner, and theTerminator were influeneces for DE.

Baa Baa wrote...

This crosses the line between inspiration and total rip off.

How when nothing has been completely original for decades epsecially with what Star Trek and Star Wars did. 

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 15 septembre 2012 - 09:07 .

[AresKeith]

Blueprotoss wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

The Matrix, Blade Runner, and RoboCop also aren't video game franchises, which AresKeith asked.

Yet he never specified it was to be game related even when the Matrix and Robocop have a good amount of video games.  Sci-fi is sci-fi whether its a movie, tv show, comic, novel, or video game.

I said "what other Video Games does that", and it does matter because not every video copies the ending. Thats lazy

[Twinzam.V]

Blueprotoss wrote...

Baa Baa wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

Yet it is just like Deus Ex wasn't the 1st especially when DE: HR came out in 2011.

.....What:huh:?

The Matrix, Robocop, Blade Runner, and theTerminator were influeneces for DE.

Baa Baa wrote...

This crosses the line between inspiration and total rip off.

How when nothing has been completely original for decades epsecially with what Star Trek and Star Wars did. 

But a copy paste of the ending is a rip off. Usually inspiration means setting, atmosphere, part of the plot. When someone talks about inspiration thats what i think of.
Im inclined to believe that SC was a coincidence the ending of DE not so much.

Modifié par Twinzam.V, 15 septembre 2012 - 09:11 .

[Blueprotoss]

AresKeith wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

The Matrix, Blade Runner, and RoboCop also aren't video game franchises, which AresKeith asked.

Yet he never specified it was to be game related even when the Matrix and Robocop have a good amount of video games.  Sci-fi is sci-fi whether its a movie, tv show, comic, novel, or video game.

I said "what other Video Games does that", and it does matter because not every video copies the ending. Thats lazy

Sorry I missed the video game part but ME3 didn't copy DE: HR especially when ME3 was already in production for at least 2 years when HR was released.

[The Night Mammoth]

Blueprotoss wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

The Matrix, Blade Runner, and RoboCop also aren't video game franchises, which AresKeith asked.

Yet he never specified it was to be game related even when the Matrix and Robocop have a good amount of video games.  Sci-fi is sci-fi whether its a movie, tv show, comic, novel, or video game.

I said "what other Video Games does that", and it does matter because not every video copies the ending. Thats lazy

Sorry I missed the video game part but ME3 didn't copy DE: HR especially when ME3 was already in production for at least 2 years when HR was released.

The original Deus Ex was released in the year 2000. 

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 15 septembre 2012 - 09:11 .

[Blueprotoss]

Twinzam.V wrote...

But a copy paste of the ending is a rip off. Usually inspiration means setting, atmosphere, part of the plot. When someone talks about inspiration thats what i think of.

Saying whats copied is based on semantics because anything can be argued on what is copied.

[Chaotic-Fusion]

Blueprotoss wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

The Matrix, Blade Runner, and RoboCop also aren't video game franchises, which AresKeith asked.

Yet he never specified it was to be game related even when the Matrix and Robocop have a good amount of video games.  Sci-fi is sci-fi whether its a movie, tv show, comic, novel, or video game.

I said "what other Video Games does that", and it does matter because not every video copies the ending. Thats lazy

Sorry I missed the video game part but ME3 didn't copy DE: HR especially when ME3 was already in production for at least 2 years when HR was released.

Mass Effect 3 copied the original Deus Ex's endings. It was released in 2000.

Modifié par Chaotic-Fusion, 15 septembre 2012 - 09:11 .

[Blueprotoss]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Deus Ex was released in the year 2000. 

Chaotic-Fusion wrote...

Mass Effect 3 copied the original Deus Ex's endings. It was released in 2000.

DE: HR was released in 2011 not 2000.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 15 septembre 2012 - 09:13 .

[AresKeith]

Blueprotoss wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

The Matrix, Blade Runner, and RoboCop also aren't video game franchises, which AresKeith asked.

Yet he never specified it was to be game related even when the Matrix and Robocop have a good amount of video games.  Sci-fi is sci-fi whether its a movie, tv show, comic, novel, or video game.

I said "what other Video Games does that", and it does matter because not every video copies the ending. Thats lazy

Sorry I missed the video game part but ME3 didn't copy DE: HR especially when ME3 was already in production for at least 2 years when HR was released.

were talking about the first Deus Ex game from 2000, the Refuse option came from DE:HR

[Twinzam.V]

Blueprotoss wrote...

Twinzam.V wrote...

But a copy paste of the ending is a rip off. Usually inspiration means setting, atmosphere, part of the plot. When someone talks about inspiration thats what i think of.

Saying whats copied is based on semantics because anything can be argued on what is copied.

When you blatantly have a switch with 3 options in the end of the game that has a striking resemblance with another game with a switch with 3 options in the end of it, it's when i start scratching my head.

Modifié par Twinzam.V, 15 septembre 2012 - 09:13 .

[The Night Mammoth]

Blueprotoss wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Deus Ex was released in the year 2000. 

DE: HR was released in 2011 not 2000.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_Ex

At least four times now. 

[Baa Baa]

Twinzam.V wrote...

Baa Baa wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Baa Baa wrote...

Believe it or not, some things actually aren't coincidence.

I don't think this is coincidence.

Yet it is just like Deus Ex wasn't the 1st especially when DE: HR came out in 2011.

.....What:huh:?

I think you switched the names....  DE: HR wasn't the 1st since DE came out in 2000. 

I never said in this thread that the entire ending was ripped from HR. The Refuse ending originated from HR, but the Vanilla endings are a copy of the original DX.

[Blueprotoss]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Deus Ex was released in the year 2000. 

DE: HR was released in 2011 not 2000.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_Ex

At least four times now. 

Yet DE wasn't the 1st and Wikipedia isn't reliable.

[Blueprotoss]

AresKeith wrote...

were talking about the first Deus Ex game from 2000, the Refuse option came from DE:HR

Either way DE still isn't the 1st while DE and ME have two different universes.  You would have a better chance saying that DE stole from the Matrix or Terminator.

[Chaotic-Fusion]

Blueprotoss, I have a copy of the original Deus EX here with me right now. It was released in 2000. Please tell me you aren't trying to argue against that.

[Blueprotoss]

Twinzam.V wrote...

When you blatantly have a switch with 3 options in the end of the game that has a striking resemblance with another game with a switch with 3 options in the end of it, it's when i start scratching my head.

Chaotic-Fusion wrote...

Blueprotoss, I have a copy of the original Deus EX here with me right now. It was released in 2000. Please tell me you aren't trying to argue against that.

 This is semantics.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 15 septembre 2012 - 09:17 .

[The Night Mammoth]

Blueprotoss wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Deus Ex was released in the year 2000. 

DE: HR was released in 2011 not 2000.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_Ex

At least four times now. 

Yet DE wasn't the 1st and Wikipedia isn't reliable.

http://uk.gamespot.com/deus-ex/

[Twinzam.V]

Blueprotoss wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

were talking about the first Deus Ex game from 2000, the Refuse option came from DE:HR

Either way DE still isn't the 1st while DE and ME have two different universes.  You would have a better chance saying that DE stole from the Matrix or Terminator.

Yes... But you dont have a terminator after you in DE or super powers in the matrix. What you have is a cyberpunk future, with corporate conspiracies similar to at least Robocop or Terminator.
But just similar, not an ending where the hero sacrifices himself in molten metal in DE.

Modifié par Twinzam.V, 15 septembre 2012 - 09:19 .

[AresKeith]

Blueprotoss wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

were talking about the first Deus Ex game from 2000, the Refuse option came from DE:HR

Either way DE still isn't the 1st while DE and ME have two different universes.  You would have a better chance saying that DE stole from the Matrix or Terminator.

DE was the first game to use that kind of ending, and it doesn't matter whether its a different universe you don't copy another game's ending

[clarkusdarkus]

Using inspiration is one thing, but reading through that it seems bioware copied it all and just changed names of certain people....mwahaha..... way to go bioware, and no matter what anyone else says, ME3 took Deus Ex HR ending concept aswell..........and yet still with all that copied from other sources ME3 was still crap and short.

[o Ventus]

Blueprotoss wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Deus Ex was released in the year 2000. 

DE: HR was released in 2011 not 2000.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_Ex

At least four times now. 

Yet DE wasn't the 1st and Wikipedia isn't reliable.

How is Deus Ex not the first Deus Ex game, when it was the first Deus Ex game to be released?

Also, you're aware that Wikipedia-

A). cites their sources, and-

. is operated by people whose job it is to maintain the integrity of the site

Really, Wikipedia isn't a cesspool of misinformation like many people seem to imply.

[Eterna]

Baa Baa wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Baa Baa wrote...

Believe it or not, some things actually aren't coincidence.

And so what if they aren't? The Characters, Universe and themes make Mass Effect it's own story, it doesn't matter if they got inspiration from other sources, all stories do that.

Does SC3 have Samara in it? How about legion? Medi-gel? If not then shush, all stories are based on borrowed ideas from other sources, it'a the characters and smaller details that make it it's own story.

This crosses the line between inspiration and total rip off.

So if I make a movie about a giant monster rampaging through New York city am I ripping off of Godzilla?

Modifié par Eterna5, 15 septembre 2012 - 09:27 .